In this episode, Ryan sits down with Jessie Krebs — former U.S. Air Force SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape) specialist, wilderness survival instructor, and contestant on Alone Season 9. Jessie shares her journey from military survival training to teaching everyday people how to reconnect with nature and reclaim their resilience.

They dive into the psychology of survival, the mental toll of isolation, myths about wilderness living, and how nature can be a powerful tool for healing trauma. Jessie brings sharp insight, hard-earned wisdom, and raw honesty to a conversation that explores what it truly means to survive — and to thrive.