January 02, 2025

The Quadruple Migration (with Rijk van Zanten)

1 hour 20 minutes

To start the year light and fun, Michael and Alex are joined by Rijk van Zanten, the creator of Directus.

Of course we talk about his journey into web development, the Vue.js ecosystem, what Directus is and why he chose Vue over other frameworks for it's extensible frontend.

Further, Rijk shares his thoughts on the Vue.js job market and how his "Quadruple Migration", over to the Composition API, Pinia, Vue 3 and Vite, went. As a cherry on top - this all started *very* early in the development cycle of Vue 3!

But the fun doesn't and there because Rijk comes with the one or the other hot take on topics like TypeScript and whether our libraries will be worse for JavaScript developers, testing, and many many other scenarios.

Enjoy the Episode!

Our Guest

Rijk van Zanten

Directus
BlueSky
Web

Chapters

(00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue

(00:47) - How did you got into Web Development and Vue?

(03:10) - Does Vue appeal to a certain kind of people?

(05:35) - The web as the primary platform

(07:47) - What is Directus?

(10:34) - Why Vue.js and not React for Directus?

(18:28) - Jobs for Vue vs. React Developers

(26:33) - Green Flags for Hiring Candidates

(27:19) - Composition API and Pinia from 0.0.1

(39:02) - Breaking changes and Migrating from early versions

(44:28) - Testing when Prototyping - Unit and E2E

(53:11) - The right level of Testing for the project

(55:56) - Mutation Testing

(59:09) - Does TypeScript makes us writing worse JS libraries?

(01:09:09) - Dealing with Legacy and EOL

(01:18:38) - Where can people Follow you?

(01:19:42) - Wrapping up

Links and Resources

Join Vue.js Amsterdam 2025* and get 10% off with code DEJAVUE

ConTejas Podcast with Alex
Michael's Clean Components Toolkit
Michael's Upcoming Composable Design Course
Daniel Roe's React To Nuxt Course
Alex's Next to Nuxt Migration in less than 1h Video
Stryker Mutation Testing Framework
DejaVue Episode #038 - Self-founding and growing a Nuxt-based SaaS (with Sumit Kumar)

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

Twitter
YouTube
Website

Michael Thiessen

Twitter
YouTube
Website

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By Alexander Lichter & Michael Thiessen