The Quantum Economy Podcast

In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Alex Challans, CEO and co-founder of Resonance, the company behind The Quantum Insider — the leading global platform for intelligence and media in quantum technology.

Alex reflects on the early days of building The Quantum Insider and how Resonance has grown into a major deep-tech intelligence powerhouse. He shares why the quantum industry has moved from niche academic circles into a rapidly expanding global ecosystem powered by scientists, founders, investors, and governments.

Together, they explore the rise of the quantum economy, the convergence of quantum, AI, and space technologies, and how capital, timing, and technological breakthroughs are reshaping industries far beyond computing. Alex also gives a behind-the-scenes look at Our Quantum Future, Resonance’s new documentary highlighting where the next decade of quantum innovation may take us.

These are the topics Alex and Anders are talking about:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:48)  Entering the Quantum Era

(10:45)  Navigating the Emerging Quantum Landscape

(19:28)  Timing, Adoption & the Role of Government

(29:49)  The Rise of the Quantum Economy

(40:41)  Quantum–AI Interaction and Financial Infrastructures

(54:25)  Shifting Market Dynamics and Our Quantum Future

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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Ben Bloom, co-founder and CEO of Atom Computing – one of the pioneers of neutral-atom quantum computers. From optical control and logical qubits to the next industrial revolution in materials science, Bloom shares how his team is scaling systems from thousands to tens of thousands of qubits and why this moment might mark the beginning of a new computational era.

These are the topics Ben and Anders are talking about:

(00:00) Introduction  

(01:59) The Quantum Capital Debate  

(04:13) Neutral Atoms in Quantum Computing  

(06:00) Engineering Challenges and Scaling  

(09:57) The Role of Classical Control  

(11:40) Exotic Approaches and Future of Quantum  

(15:25) The Journey of a Founder  

(21:57) The Future of Quantum and AI Collaboration  

(27:31) Societal Implications of Quantum Computing  

(32:35) Scepticism and Optimism in AGI Development  

(38:48) Industrial Use Cases and Implications  

(42:13) Government's Role in Quantum Computing and Regulation  

(45:02) Quantum vs. AI  

(50:58) The Future of Manufacturing and Material Revolution  

(54:10) Philosophical Implication on Quantum Mechanics  

(58:06) Atom’s Future

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https://atom-computing.com/

About Anders Indset

Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.

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How are we building the quantum future responsibly?

Anders Indset speaks with Nick Farina, co-founder and CEO of EeroQ, a company taking one of the most unconventional paths in the race for scalable quantum systems: trapped electrons on liquid helium.

They explore how quantum progress unfolds – not in one defining moment, but through interlinked advances that amplify each other. From the physics of floating electrons to the philosophy of progress, this episode dives deep into how we can balance ambition and awareness as science, markets, and ethics converge to shape our shared future.

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About Anders Indset

Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.

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A Manufacturing Story with Prineha Narang

How is quantum science becoming something we can build?

In this episode, Anders Indset talks with Prineha Narang, Professor at UCLA and Visiting Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen. She is a pioneering scientist, engineer, and entrepreneur shaping the future of quantum technologies.

Together, they explore how quantum science moves from the lab into real-world impact – transforming manufacturing, expanding the frontiers of computation, and reshaping our idea of progress. From quantum materials and AI integration to the rise of a quantum economy that creates new industries, jobs, and influences how we live and transform as a society, this conversation explores the making of a new scientific and industrial age.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/prineha/

https://naranglab.ucla.edu/

About Anders Indset

Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.

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What if reality itself is made of information?

In this mind-expanding episode, Anders Indset speaks with Vlatko Vedral, Professor of Quantum Information Science at Oxford University — one of the world’s leading thinkers on quantum physics, information, and consciousness.

Together, they explore how quantum mechanics, information, and mind may be part of one continuous reality — and why this understanding could transform not only science — but our very idea of what it means to be human.

In This Episode

• Why quantum mechanics may be the universal theory of everything

• The five “portals” redefining our view of time, gravity, life, and consciousness

• Schrödinger’s real vision behind the “many worlds” concept

• How quantum information could explain life, thought, and reality itself

A profound and accessible dialogue where science meets philosophy — and where the future of understanding begins.

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• Portals to a New Reality: Five Pathways to the Future of Physics https://www.amazon.com/dp/1541604784

  
  

About The Quantum Economy Podcast

A series exploring quantum theory, quantum tech, AI, and the evolution of intelligence — and how these forces redefine economy, value creation, and the future of human systems.

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset is joined by Chris Ballance — co-founder and CEO of Oxford Ionics, a pioneer in trapped-ion quantum computing and now part of IonQ.

Chris is a physicist turned entrepreneur whose journey from Oxford’s quantum labs to leading one of the world’s most advanced quantum hardware teams reflects a rare blend of scientific precision and pragmatic vision.

Their conversation explores the intersection of quantum physics, technology, business, and philosophy — from the limits of error correction to the coming fusion of AI, consciousness, and computation.

At the heart of the dialogue is Chris’s conviction: that progress depends on better engineering, not blind faith in algorithms — and that humanity’s greatest strength lies in its capacity to adapt and create meaning through science and technology.

Together, they discuss:

• Why error correction isn’t magic — and why quantum computing starts with better qubits
• How trapped-ion systems could outperform other quantum architectures in scalability and economics
• The art of turning deep tech into business — and why unit economics decide who wins
• How energy, computation, and intelligence are converging toward a new economic paradigm
• The blurred line between AI, consciousness, and human agency — and what it means to “stay human”
• Why optimism is still the most radical stance in technology

For anyone curious about how quantum computing, AI, and human ingenuity intersect — this episode offers both insight and inspiration for the future we’re already building.

About Chris Ballance

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-ballance/?originalSubdomain=uk

• https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Computing-Babies-Baby-University/dp/1492671185

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Matthew Kinsella — CEO of Infleqtion, one of the world’s leading quantum technology companies pioneering neutral-atom platforms across computing, sensing, and networking.

Before stepping in as CEO, Matthew spent nearly two decades as a deep-tech investor with Maverick Capital and was Infleqtion’s first institutional investor in 2018. Now, he’s guiding the company through its next major inflection point — scaling quantum technologies, going public, and shaping the global race toward quantum advantage.

Anders and Matthew’s conversation bridges business, science, and philosophy — exploring how quantum computing is transforming markets, national security, and our understanding of reality itself.Together, they explore:

• From Investor to Operator – Why Matthew left venture capital to lead Infleqtion and how neutral-atom technology became a flexible, multi-market platform
• Quantum Advantage and Logical Qubits – How the shift from if to when is redefining valuations, timelines, and investor psychology in quantum computing
• Beyond Computing – Real commercial use cases in quantum sensing, precision timing, and Rydberg antennas that could transform defense, logistics, and communications
• The Quantum Race – Why quantum technology has become a matter of national strategy and how GPS-denied environments reveal the urgency for quantum timing and navigation
• Innovation and Capital – Balancing bottom-up entrepreneurship with government support in an age of trillion-dollar tech monopolies
• Faith, Logos, and Consciousness – A reflective ending that bridges Stoicism, spirituality, and quantum theory — asking what it really means to be human in a quantum world

This is a conversation about the infleqtion point between capital, consciousness, and technology — where exponential innovation meets existential reflection.

Whether you’re a founder, investor, or philosopher of progress, this episode will expand your thinking on how quantum technologies are reshaping not just economies, but the future of human agency itself.🎧 Listen to The Quantum Economy Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube — brought to you by The Quantum Insider.Links & ResourcesAbout Matthew Kinsellahttps://linkedin.com/in/matthew-kinsella https://infleqtion.com/ About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: [email protected]Listen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindset X: http://x.com/andersindset

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Professor Marius Grundmann—co-founder & co-CEO of SaxonQ, world-leading semiconductor physicist (h-index ~95), and author of the standard textbook The Physics of Semiconductors. Grundmann and SaxonQ are pioneering nitrogen-vacancy (NV) centres in diamond to build mobile, room-temperature quantum computers—a bold challenge to today’s cryogenic approaches.Anders and Marius dive straight into the hard questions: Why have NV centres been pigeonholed into sensing and communication, and what’s changed to make computing not only possible, but scalable? From materials science to machine architecture, this is a rare, deeply technical conversation that also grapples with the societal stakes of quantum.Together, they explore:

• From Defect to Qubit – How NV⁻ centres in diamond use electron and nuclear spins, and why room-temperature operation matters.
• The Breakthrough: Reproducibly fabricating coupled NV pairs at nanometre precision—the crucial first step to scaling entangled qubits.
• Materials Mastery – Diamond quality, nitrogen + sulfur implantation to boost NV yield and purity, and avoiding defect noise.
• Error Protection & Fidelity – Why NV platforms start with exceptionally high fidelities, and how clustering electron–nuclear spins supports fault tolerance.
• Scaling Roadmap – From 2→4→8 NVs, adding ~10 nearby nuclei per NV (~80 qubits per core), then multi-core diamond chips to rapidly reach 10,000+ fully entangled qubits.
• Compute vs. Cryo – The room-temperature advantage vs. superconducting and trapped-ion systems; fewer wires, less overhead, more portability.
• Software Path – “Code-to-chip” execution via Qiskit/Cirq/OpenQASM, stable calibration, and leveraging native gates/topologies.
• Near-Term ROI – Quantum-enhanced AI/ML (QCNNs, attention), optimization with lower energy costs, and materials simulation for real industrial impact.
• Progress & Risk – Funding, talent, and why standard semiconductor tools are “almost good enough” to build what comes next.
• Philosophy & Mind – Consciousness, quantum in biology, and how science and philosophy can (and must) co-evolve.

This is a precise, no-hype exploration of a contrarian thesis: diamonds aren’t just for sensing—diamonds can compute. If Grundmann is right, NV-centre quantum could become the dark horse that reshapes the field.Whether you’re a technologist, strategist, investor, or philosopher at heart, this conversation will challenge assumptions and expand your map of what’s possible at the intersection of quantum physics, AI, and human agency.Links & ResourcesAbout Marius Grundmannhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/marius-grundmann-7a088962/ https://www.saxonq.com/en/ About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.com – [email protected]Listen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindset X: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiast. Subscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Florian Neukart—Chief Product Officer and Management Board Member at Terra Quantum, Professor at Leiden University, and co-author of Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox – Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI. Florian is one of today’s leading voices in quantum computing and AI, and the mind behind the groundbreaking Quantum Memory Matrix theory, which suggests the universe itself holds a memory.Anders and Florian's conversation spans the cutting edge of science, technology, and philosophy—asking not just how quantum computing will change our world, but how reality itself might be structured.Together, they explore:

• The Quantum Memory Matrix – How uniting quantum information and gravity could solve mysteries like dark matter and the black hole information paradox
• The Race to Scale Quantum Computing – Insights on superconducting systems, error correction breakthroughs, and the companies pushing the frontier
• Near-Term Quantum Business Cases – From medical imaging and industrial optimization to security and logistics, and why hybrid algorithms already deliver measurable economic impact
• Post-Quantum Cryptography – How to secure our digital future against quantum-enabled threats, from encryption standards to quantum random number generation
• Ethics, AI, and the Future of Humanity – A deep dive into Artificial Human Intelligence, the convergence of biology, AI, and quantum, and how we might navigate an era of cognitive and biological enhancement
• This is a far-reaching, boundary-pushing dialogue—linking fundamental physics to real-world innovation, and exploring the profound ethical choices that will shape our future.

Whether you’re a technologist, strategist, or philosopher at heart, this conversation will challenge your thinking and invite you to imagine the possibilities at the intersection of quantum physics, AI, and humanity’s future.Links & ResourcesAbout Florian Neukarthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/florian-neukart-3a729591/dehttps://terraquantum.swiss/About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: [email protected]Listen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindsetX: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareI

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset explores the future of quantum with Justin Ging, Chief Product Officer at Atom Computing. With over two decades of experience in product, marketing, and sales Justin is one of the foremost voices on how to commercialize quantum computing and turn breakthrough science into real markets.

Their conversation explores the business, strategy, and philosophy behind building a quantum economy, asking not just how quantum computers will scale, but how they will be adopted, sold, and experienced in the real world.

Together, they dive into:

• From Physical to Logical Qubits – Why the transition to the logical qubit era marks a defining milestone for the entire industry, and what Atom Computing’s roadmap looks like toward 100 and then 1,000 logical qubits.
• The Quantum Marketplace – How the commercialization of quantum is evolving: from research tools for scientists to sovereign systems that anchor national ecosystems, and eventually cloud-scale services.
• Differentiation & Design – Why features like mid-circuit measurement, coherence times, and engineering precision matter—and how aesthetics and brand-building play a role in winning trust and visibility.
• Business Models & Sales Strategy – Insights on marketing quantum responsibly, balancing hype with education, and why governments, HPC centers, and industry consortia are now the main buyers of quantum systems.
• Applications & Industries – From molecular simulation and pharmaceuticals to logistics, energy, and finance, Justin outlines which sectors are likely to see value first—and why sustainability use cases stand out.
• Ethics, Risk, and Responsibility – A forward-looking discussion on export controls, the dual-use risks of quantum, and how to keep humanity’s focus on net-positive innovation.

This is a practical, commercial, and deeply reflective conversation—a rare look at how the future of quantum is being built not only in labs, but in boardrooms, governments, and the marketplace.

This dialogue will expand your perspective on what it takes to scale quantum from theory to practice—and how it might reshape economies, industries, and human progress.

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