The Quantum Economy Podcast

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset is joined by William Hurley – better known as whurley – a pioneering tech entrepreneur, founder and CEO of Strangeworks, and co-author of the bestselling book “Quantum Computing for Babies”.Their conversation dives deep into the philosophical, technological, and societal dimensions of quantum computing and AI – ranging from the need for open ecosystems and standardization to the existential implications of living in a world shaped by intelligent machines.At the heart of the dialogue is whurley’s bold vision: to empower a billion minds to solve the world’s greatest challenges through science and technology.Together, they further discuss:

• Why the quantum future is platform-agnostic, entangled and already here
• How AI and quantum computing are symbiotic tools in the next scientific revolution
• What it takes to build an ecosystem, not just hardware – and why “middleware is the hard part”
• Why standardization is essential for trust, credibility, and meaningful progress
• How a new kind of capitalism, rooted in execution and trust, could shape the organizations of tomorrow
• Why education must become experiential and what it means to raise AI-native children
• How the rise of "becoming organizations" will challenge outdated corporate structures

Whether you’re an engineer, policymaker, investor, or a curious generalist, this episode offers a powerful glimpse into the future we're all helping to shape — or risk being shaped by.Links & ResourcesAbout Whurley:https://www.linkedin.com/in/whurleyhttps://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Computing-Babies-Baby-University/dp/1492671185About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: [email protected]Listen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindsetX: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please:Like – Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiastSubscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Jan Goetz — co-founder and co-CEO of IQM Quantum Computers. With IQM’s recent leap to unicorn status, Europe has gained a new heavyweight in the quantum race. What started as a university spin-off is now a global champion setting the pace for Europe’s quantum ambitions.

Their conversation goes far beyond the lab, exploring what it really takes to build “the impossible machine” — a commercial quantum computer — and what this means for business, science, and society.

Together, they dive into:

• From Lab to Market – How IQM transformed from a research spin-off into Europe’s largest quantum computing company, and why a product mindset is key for deep tech
• The Case for Hardware – Why IQM chose to build full-stack, on-premise quantum computers rather than focus only on cloud access, and how superconducting qubits provide a commercial edge
• Co-Design & Applications – Insights into IQM’s “co-design” approach, aligning chips, error correction, and algorithms with real-world use cases — from pharma and batteries to logistics and AI
• Scaling & Roadmaps – The art of balancing investor expectations with engineering reality, and how IQM is pushing toward million-qubit systems
• Europe’s Quantum Ambition – Why execution, funding, and branding matter if Europe wants to compete with the US and Asia
• Beyond Technology – A thoughtful discussion on ethics, exponential progress, and whether quantum computing could one day help us understand life, mind, and consciousness

This is a wide-ranging, thought-provoking dialogue that connects the business of building quantum computers with the deeper questions of human progress.

Whether you’re an entrepreneur, scientist, or philosopher at heart, this episode will inspire you to rethink what’s possible at the frontier of technology.

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About Jan Goetz

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-goetz/

• https://meetiqm.com

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Théau Peronnin, co-founder and CEO of Alice & Bob — a French quantum startup pioneering fault-tolerant quantum computing through its unique “cat qubit” design.A physicist by training and vocation, Théau shares his journey from academia to entrepreneurship and reflects on what it takes to lead a deep-tech company through one of the most high-stakes races in modern science: building a universal quantum computer.Together, they explore:

• How embedding error correction directly into qubits could drastically reduce the hardware requirements for fault tolerance
• Why quantum computing isn’t about accelerating existing algorithms but enabling entirely new kinds of questions
• What the “Sputnik moment” of quantum might look like — and why we're not quite there yet
• How classical control electronics, not quantum components, could be the true bottleneck at scale
• Why Europe needs visionary drive, not bureaucracy, to take the lead in quantum innovation
• And why the most profound impact of quantum might lie in unlocking the next generation of chemistry, material science — and maybe even understanding life itself

This is a conversation that moves fluidly between science, economics, culture, and the long arc of human progress — all through the lens of someone building the machine that could define the next technological era.

Whether you’re a researcher, investor, policymaker, or simply quantum-curious — this episode will expand your view of what’s possible.Links & ResourcesAbout Théau Peronnin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/theau-peronnin/https://alice-bob.com/About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: [email protected]Listen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindsetX: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please:Like – Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiastSubscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy.

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with José Ignacio Latorre, Director of the Centre for Quantum Technologies in Singapore. A leading physicist and global voice in quantum ethics and AI, José is shaping national strategy while advocating for a more inclusive, human-centered quantum future.Their conversation centers on a powerful and forward-looking idea: What if we built a Quantum Temple — not just a technological infrastructure, but a global, philosophical project grounded in openness, beauty, and generosity?Together, they explore:

•  How Singapore is designing a fully integrated national quantum strategy — and what Europe and the U.S. can learn from it
• Why scalable quantum computing is still a scientific challenge —and how the strengths and limitations of different hardware platforms are coming into focus
• Why universities and public labs remain essential for breakthroughs — despite corporate PR dominance
• What José’s decades of work on machine ethics can teach us about the governance of superintelligence
• Why equitable access to quantum knowledge, infrastructure, and education is essential — and how inclusion across the Global South is becoming a defining challenge
• What it means to be human in the age of intelligent machines — and how true understanding begins where information ends

This conversation offers a wide-ranging and inspiring vision of our quantum future—where technological progress is matched by philosophical depth and human understanding.Whether you're a technologist, strategist, or philosopher at heart, this episode will expand your thinking—and invite you to step inside the Quantum Temple.Links & ResourcesAbout José Ignacio Latorrehttps://es.linkedin.com/in/jolatorrehttps://www.cqt.sg/director/About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.comContact: [email protected]Listen & SubscribeYouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnjrEO3TF1lUTutnqlfA3x88Rp0gVkOmDSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6pepc2PaCd06FHlf1pzDOg?si=hSoOnoTwTSi4wYxZyGkUPw&nd=1&dlsi=3cf564a337ca480fApple: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/channel/quantum-economy-podcast/81ea30a3-aaaa-4112-8787-d9aa3e0b816aSubscribe for insights on quantum tech, AI, deep-techAbout Anders IndsetAnders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanityNEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643Official Website: https://andersindset.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andersindset X: http://x.com/andersindsetSupport & ShareIf you enjoyed this episode, please:Like – Comment and Share with a fellow quantum enthusiast Subscribe for future conversations with the thinkers shaping the quantum economy.

In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Krysta Svore, Microsoft Azure Quantum’s Technical Fellow and Vice President of Advanced Quantum Development. Krysta is one of the leading forces behind Microsoft’s full-stack quantum ecosystem—and a visionary voice on the future of scalable, fault-tolerant quantum computing.

Their conversation centers on a critical and forward-looking question: What does it really mean to be quantum ready? From enterprise strategy to global infrastructure, Krysta explains why preparing for quantum is an urgent and strategic priority for organizations worldwide.

Together, they explore:

• Post-Quantum Cryptography: How Microsoft is safeguarding trust and data integrity in the age of emerging quantum threats
• From Qubits to Systems: The breakthroughs in hardware, error correction, and logical qubit design that are making quantum reliability a reality
• The Ethics of Scale: Why quantum innovation must be guided by responsible computing, human-centered values, and long-term thinking
• Computation and Consciousness: A deep philosophical exchange on the limits of algorithms, the role of creativity, and what it means to be human in a world of intelligent machinesThis conversation offers a wide-ranging and inspiring perspective on where quantum computing is headed—one that bridges cutting-edge technology with questions of ethics, purpose, and possibility.

Whether you're a technologist, strategist, or philosopher at heart, this conversation will challenge your assumptions—and invite you to take your first (or next) step toward becoming truly quantum-ready.

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About Krysta Svore

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/krysta-svore-a8920542/
• https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/people/ksvore/

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Simone Severini, a Distinguished Engineer at Google and Professor of Physics of Information at University College London.

Their wide-ranging conversation explores the philosophical, scientific, and technical dimensions of quantum computing – from its origins in fundamental physics to the engineering hurdles of building fault-tolerant machines.

At the time of the recording, Simone was still with Amazon Web Services, where he led the quantum technologies division and launched research centers with Caltech and Harvard.

Together, they explore:

• Why quantum computers are better understood as instruments of discovery than tools for acceleration
• What it takes to build fault-tolerant machines — from error correction to cat qubits
• How computation and physics co-evolve, and what that tells us about black holes, entropy, and information
• Why quantum innovation demands patient capital, deep partnerships, and long-termism

Whether you're a scientist, engineer, investor, or a technologist with a philosophical mindset, this episode invites you into a thoughtful and nuanced conversation on what quantum computing really is – and what it might become.

About Simone Severini:

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/simoneseverini

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Rebecca Krauthamer, CEO and co-founder of QuSecure – a pioneering force in post-quantum cybersecurity.

Their conversation spans the emerging risks and deep opportunities at the intersection of quantum tech, digital security, and human agency.Together, they explore:

• The rapid rise of the PQC (Post-Quantum Cryptography) market
• What it really means to frame cybersecurity as a mission for humanity
• How Rebecca’s long-term vision could reshape digital trust and infrastructure
• What it takes to lead as a business thinker in times of exponential change
• Whether you’re a cybersecurity strategist, quantum enthusiast, or tech-forward humanist, this is an essential listen on how to build trust in tomorrow’s digital world.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/rkrauthamer/

https://www.qusecure.com/About The Quantum Economy PodcastA series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”. Learn more at thequantumeconomy.com

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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with John Levy, CEO and co-founder of SEEQC – a pioneer in superconducting quantum chip design. Their conversation explores the frontiers of computing, capitalism, and consciousness in a world shaped by quantum technology.

Together, they explore:

• The scalability of superconducting quantum chips
• Why the quantum ecosystem is not a winner-take-all market
• The critical role of quantum error correction

• The emergence of "quantum natives" and what this means for human evolution

Episode breakdown:

00:00 Introduction to John Levy and SEEQC

01:08 Current progress in quantum commercialization

05:27 Investment strategies and biotech valuation models

15:00 SEEQC's origins and energy efficiency mission

21:40 Technical hurdles in digital quantum control

28:51 Integration with classical GPU and CPU architectures

30:51 Potential use cases and historical analogies

35:09 The global war for quantum talent

42:25 Philosophical reflections on reality and quantum mechanics

57:00 SEEQC's future roadmap and industry outlook

Whether you're a deep-tech entrepreneur, quantum enthusiast, or future thinker – this is a must-hear dialogue on the architecture of tomorrow’s economy.

Links & Resources

About John Levy: https://seeqc.com/about/leadership/john-levy

Books mentioned:

• Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology by Chris Miller: https://www.amazon.com/Chip-War-Worlds-Critical-Technology/dp/1668012057
• Rise of the Machines: A Cybernetic History by Thomas Rid: https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Machines-Cybernetic-Thomas-Rid/dp/0393354954
• The Rigor of Angels: Borges, Heisenberg, Kant, and the Ultimate Nature of Reality by William Egginton: https://www.amazon.com/Rigor-Angels-Heisenberg-Ultimate-Reality/dp/0593316304

The Quantum Economy Podcast

A series of recordings around the research of the forthcoming second edition of “The Quantum Economy”.

Learn more at thequantumeconomy.com

Contact: [email protected]

About Anders Indset

Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity

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The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https:///www.singularityparadox.com

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