Greville and Tim have to discuss a disappointing Saturday down in South London, but then we're on to a bigger conversation about what we know about Brentford Football Club after a quarter of the season gone.  

Are we on the right track?  Are we in a false position at 12th in the table, or is this who we rightly are this season?  We try to make some sense of the most turbulent off-season and first ten matches in many years.

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