I paused the conversations for a couple of months because my studio is just too damn hot in the middle of summer, but fall is now in full swing and I’m back in action!

My guest today is Lisa Bauford, aka L-Boogie. L-Boogie is a dancer, MC, educator, and the creative force behind the apparel brand Blame Boogie. She’s also the type of person who, whenever and wherever you might meet, makes you feel better about being alive, and I was really excited to have her as a guest.

We talk about her Florida roots, coming up as a basketball player, and the street dance community’s ability to bring people together and break down social boundaries. In general we had a really good time and at the very end, I get a little Jook City dance lesson.

CREDITS

• Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer
• Dance lesson track: Keep Jukin’ by Tampa Tony (2019) 

LINKS

• L-boogie IG
• Blame Boogie Etsy shop
• iLuminate
• Passing The Crown
• Ivan “Flipz” Velez YT
• Tampa Tony Keep Jukin’ (2019)
• The K-Wang

I brought my Nord drum synthesizer to Unimate 2025, the weeklong international convention for robot and animation dance, for a series and drum and dance improvisations

This particular music and movement exchange features the amazing French street performer Kévin Théagène.  Kevin has come to L.A. pretty regularly in recent years, and I’m always happy to see him. He is a talented dancer and saxophonist, and has a warm, infectious personality. Enjoy!

CREDITS

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer

Movement by Kévin Théagène

LINKS

Kevin Theagene YouTube

Unimate Dance

Nyboer Photography

This Quick Hit episode is part of a series of drum and dance improvisations I recorded at Unimate 2025.

I brought my drum synthesizer to the weeklong international convention focused on robot and animation dance.

This music and movement exchange features Clocks, one of the world’s premier animation dancers, and one of the most amazing performers to come out of the street dance universe. He was also part of the Unimate faculty, and was a Unimate battle guest. Enjoy!

CREDITS

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer

Movement by Clocks

LINKS

Unimate Dance

Nyboer Photography

I brought my Nord drum synthesizer to Unimate 2025, the weeklong international convention for robot and animation dance, for a series and drum and dance improvisations

This music and movement exchange features Tiger Lily, a versatile and talented dancer who has experienced incredible artistic growth since moving to L.A. She is also part of the Unimate production team. Enjoy!

CREDITS

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer

Movement by Tiger Lily

LINKS

Unimate Dance

Nyboer Photography

My guest today is dancer, choreographer, and model G’bari Gilliam, aka GQ. G’bari is one of the most talented dancers I’ve ever seen, and he absolutely lights up a room whenever he takes the stage. This is why he’s always in demand and has an impressive list of credits that includes work with Billy Porter, Bad Bunny, Disney, and Tyler Perry. I was really excited that he found the time to stop in for a conversation and a drum dance improvisation.

CONTENTS

00:00:00 - 00:01:00 Introduction

00:01:01 - 01:09:54 Conversation

01:09:55 - Drum/Dance Improvisation

CREDITS

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer

LINKS

G’bari Gilliam YouTube

G’bari 2025 Club Jete 

Diamano Coura W. African Dance Co.

Nyboer Photography

FACT CHECK

During the conversation I mistakenly attributed a quote to Stravinsky. The correct quote and attribution is: “Music begins to atrophy when it departs too far from the dance; that poetry begins to atrophy when it gets too far from music." —Ezra Pound 

In this Quick Hit short-form episode I explain why I photograph street dance. During my Episode 12 conversation, BeastBoi asked me how I got connected to the dance community. This gave me an opportunity to answer that question and to thoroughly explain the motivation behind my work.

This episode is the start of a new short-form series I’m calling Quick Hits.

It's a drum and dance improvisation similar to those that conclude most of The Real Future conversations. These non-verbal exchanges are popular, so I decided to bring my drum synthesizer to Unimate, a weeklong international convention focused on robot and animation dance styles.

Thank You to Jaja Vankova and Slim Boogie for welcoming The Real Future to Unimate 2025. It’s been amazing to participate as a photographer, and this year I was able to share music and movement exchanges with some of the dancers. These are completely spontaneous - we select a sound palette, then just go for it! This Quick Hit features Ray Psalm, a dancer from Washington D.C. who contributes her warm spirit and calm presence to the Unimate production team.

CONTENTS0:

00-1:15 Introduction

1:16-4:50 Drum/Dance Improv

CREDITS

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer

LINKS

Nyboer Photography

Unimate Dance

My guest today is Sheopatra Jones, aka She Street aka She. I am really excited to share this conversation, and the drum/dance improvisation that follows. She has been mentioned by multiple guests as an influence and mentor, and following these connections is what this podcast is all about. 

As a dancer, videographer, director, and choreographer, She Street has worked with a long list of artists including Missy Elliot, Pharrell, Snoop Dogg, Donald Glover, and Estelle. 

She Street has also formed The Council, an L.A.-based Empowerment Collective that creates space and support for women through the medium of art. The Council is also an undeniably inspiring group of movement artists-follow the links in the description to see some of their work.

Our conversation explores her upbringing in Memphis, her organic development as an artist, and the origins and meaning of The Council.

We also have a drum and dance exchange that is truly an exchange - She plays drums and we took turns at the kit.

CONTENTS

00:00:00 - 00:01:33 Introduction

00:01:00 - 00:01:33 Conversaton

01:18:26 - 01:20:50 Nyboer drum / She dance improvisation

01:20:51 - 01:22:30 She drum / Nyboer dance improvisation

CREDITS

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer/Nyboer Photography

LINKS

She Street YouTube

The Council Instagram

LaShonté Anderson

Smooth Galaxy TikTok 

Lil Buck YouTube

Jon Boogz YouTube

Ellen Oscars Promo

Estelle New Direction Video

My guest today is dancer and visual artist Jon Jimenez, aka Jon Gifted. As a dancer, Jon is a member of the pioneering Wave Gang, the  Newz Fam trump family , and the Rock Solid crew out of Dallas. He also works behind the scenes as a videographer and film maker. Gifted has a welcoming personality and a calm presence, and beneath all of that is someone intensely dedicated to his craft. When you see him move, as you will at the end of this episode, there is an intrinsic fluidity behind his expression. We talk about the origins of his organic approach to movement, his Latino cultural roots, and the growth of waving within dance. He also asks Me some questions about the roots of my photography.

CONTENTS

• 0:00 - 1:14:10 Conversation
• 1:14:11 - 1:24:57 Gifted asks Nyboer about his photography
• 1:24:57 - end Drum/Dance improvisation

LINKS

• Nyboer Photography
• Newz Fam
• Hampton Williams
• Boogie Frantick
• Tengo Talento
• Bomba Estereo/Will Smith Siesta
• Wave Gang
• Kittridge Waves
• Gr818ers

My guest today is Brandon Juezan, aka BeastBoi. Brandon is the Creative Director of Touring and Events for Versa-Style Dance Co., a Hip Hop dance instructor for Steezy Studio, and a member of the international Krump family Beast Camp. This is a unique episode. Before our conversation, I took a dance lesson with Beastboi and in the intro you will see some footage of my attempts at hip hop foundation. When he came to the studio a couple of weeks later, our extensive exchange explored his personal story, what it takes to manage and fund a non-profit dance company, and the significance of Krump’s increasing popularity. He also asked me how I entered into the street dance community, which gave me a chance to talk about the “Why” behind my photography and this podcast. I broke that out into a separate episode. We finished up with a nice drum and dance exchange that you don’t want to miss. Let’s  get into The Real Future with Brandon Juezan.

• CONTENTS•

0:00-1:30 Intro1:31-1:02:43 Conversation1:02:44-1:07:00 Drum and Dance Improv

• CREDITS •

Production, Writing, Concept, Design, Video, Audio, Music, Photography by John Nyboer. Special Thanks to Versa-Style Dance Co. for permission to use dance lesson footage.

• LINKS •

Versa-Style ⁠

Roundball Rock ⁠

Rennie Harris ⁠

Buddha Stretch 

Marjory Smarth ⁠

Sho Tyme ⁠

⁠Beast Camp⁠