The Real Spill

What happens when you take two decades of retail experience and apply it to the world of property management?
For Shane Raby https://www.linkedin.com/in/r-shane-raby-cam-caps-notary-79a65ba9/ , it sparked a transformational journey—one filled with new challenges, unexpected wins, and a renewed passion for mentorship and leadership.
In this episode of The Real Spill, Katie Spillers sits down with Shane to explore his pivot into property management, the value of teaching others, and why recognition and relationships matter more than ever in today’s fast-evolving industry.
From navigating legislative advocacy to building a name through local affiliates and conferences, Shane unpacks what it really takes to not just succeed—but to thrive and give back in real estate. He also gets real about balancing life, work, music, and meaning in a career that’s both structured and full of surprises.
🔑 In this episode, we cover:
- Why is mentorship and industry advocacy key to long-term success in property management?
- What makes the shift from retail to real estate so rewarding—and what challenges come with it?
- The evolution of supplier designations and conferences is shaping how professionals grow and connect in the field.
- How building authentic networks and teaching others creates ripple effects in career development and community impact.
🎧 Tap in to hear how one man's leap of faith led to influence, insight, and industry recognition. Whether you're new to property management or a seasoned pro, Shane's story will inspire you to level up, lead well, and lift others as you rise.
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What happens when fitness, mental health, and multifamily careers collide? In this episode of The Real Spill, Katie Spillers sits down with the inspiring Celia Smart https://www.linkedin.com/in/celia-smart-0b9b5111/ —recently named one of NAA’s 20 on the Rise—to dive deep into her unique journey from the fitness world to the frontlines of the multifamily industry.
Celia opens up about starting her podcast Be Amazing, how movement became her medicine, and why community and personal growth are everything. From creating wellness-centered spaces to building real connections, this episode is packed with empowering insights on embracing change, setting stretch goals, and finding joy in the journey. Whether you're in property management or just looking for inspiration to level up your life, this episode is for you.
🔑 In this episode, we cover:
-Why is mental and physical wellness essential for career and personal growth in the multifamily industry?
-What role does networking and community play in building authentic success?
-The Be Amazing podcast highlights women’s real stories beyond weight loss and into wellness, leadership, and change.
-How embracing stretch goals and small wins can lead to big transformations.
🎧 Hit play and hear the real story behind the glow-up—professionally and personally.
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What does it really take to grow in the multifamily housing industry—from the leasing office to becoming a thought leader? In this powerful episode of The Real Spill, host Katie Spillers sits down with the dynamic Candice Manning, founder of the Leasing Training Academy, to unpack the heart of professional growth in property management.
Candice shares her journey from an unexpected opportunity to becoming a passionate advocate for mentorship, soft skills training, and workforce development. With stories, insight, and a touch of culture, this conversation explores how intentional training and community connections can transform careers—and change the narrative of the entire industry. Whether you're just starting out or leading a team, you’ll walk away inspired, informed, and ready to level up.
🔑 In this episode, we cover:
-Why is mentorship the missing piece in many multifamily career journeys?
-What soft skills and conflict resolution tools are essential for property management success?
-The Leasing Training Academy uses AI to boost learning and retention across teams.
-How community engagement and culture can elevate both careers and relationships.
🎧 Ready to grow, lead, and advocate for change? Hit play now and get the real spill!
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The multifamily industry is evolving faster than ever—so how do you stay ahead? In this episode of The Real Spill, host Katie Spillers sits down with Dana Duckworth https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-duckworth/ for a candid conversation on everything from leadership to layoffs, to finding humor in the midst of career challenges.
Dana shares her journey from on-site management to supplier roles, the importance of mentorship, and how the Advocate Conference is shaping the future of the industry. Plus, she opens up about launching her podcast, Hilariously Unemployed, and how embracing uncertainty can be a powerful career move. Whether you’re preparing for the Vegas conference or looking for inspiration in your own career, this episode is packed with real talk, real stories, and real empowerment.
In This Episode, We Cover:
🔹 Why is the Advocate Conference a game-changer for networking and career growth?
🔹 What challenges do women in leadership face, and how can they overcome them?
🔹 The tech industry is experiencing major layoffs, impacting professionals across various fields.
🔹 How can humor and resilience help navigate career transitions and uncertainty?
🎧 Tune in now and get ready for an episode filled with insights, laughs, and lessons you won’t want to miss!
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Affordable housing—it's one of the most debated topics in real estate, but do we really understand what it takes to make it work? In this episode of The Real Spill, we sit down with Bobby Griffith, Principal and CFO of J.O. Gray, to uncover the truth behind affordable housing, the power of advocacy, and why fundraising through PACs is essential for driving real change.
Host Katie Spillers dives deep with Bobby into the misconceptions about affordable housing, the impact of government bureaucracy, and how storytelling and networking are transforming the industry. With the upcoming Advocate Conference on the horizon, this episode is packed with insights on how to get involved and why humanizing the housing experience is key to lasting solutions.
In This Episode:
❓ Why are personal stories essential in changing perceptions of affordable housing?
🏠 What are the biggest misconceptions about affordable housing, and how do they impact policy decisions?
📊 The Affordable Housing Committee within NAA is one of the fastest-growing advocacy groups in the industry.
🤝 How can networking and political engagement create real change in housing policies?
🔥 This is more than just a conversation—it’s a call to action for industry professionals, policymakers, and advocates to work together for better housing solutions.
🎧 Tune in now on [Podcast Platform] and join the movement!
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What’s one misconception about affordable housing that needs to be addressed? Share your thoughts in the comments or tag us on social media!
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Black History Month and Women's History Month aren’t just moments on the calendar—they’re opportunities to celebrate the past, embrace the present, and shape the future. In this episode of The Real Spill, we’re diving into the evolving landscape of leadership, representation, and inclusion in the multifamily industry.
Joining us is Liz Newkirk, https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-liz-n-79b76b36/ a powerhouse in the space, alongside Katie Spillers, as they discuss the challenges and triumphs of women in leadership, the impact of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), and why personal branding is no longer optional—it’s essential. Whether you’re in marketing, real estate, or simply looking for inspiration on how to navigate your career, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss!
In This Episode:
🔎 Why does representation matter in the multifamily industry, and how is it evolving?
📢 What role does digital marketing and personal branding play in career growth today?
📊 The multifamily industry is becoming more diverse, but what challenges remain for women in leadership?
🚀 How can DEI initiatives drive meaningful change in workplace culture and community impact?
🔥 Don't just take our word for it—tune in to hear Liz’s inspiring journey, practical career tips, and empowering insights that will challenge the way you think about leadership and inclusion.
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What’s one way you’re championing diversity and inclusion in your industry? Let us know in the comments or tag us on social media!
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What happens when your career path takes an unexpected turn—and leads you exactly where you need to be? In this episode of The Real Spill, host Katie Spillers sits down with Shanae Auguste https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanae-auguste-32650090/, an attorney at Lopesack and Brownlee, to discuss her unique journey from aspiring journalist to legal powerhouse.
Shanae shares how she found her calling in landlord-tenant law, the hurdles she overcame as a woman of color in the legal field, and her rise to partnership at her firm. They also dive into the evolving landscape of eviction laws, the critical role of mentorship, and the impact of the COVID-19 crisis on legal practices. If you're an aspiring attorney—or just love a great story about resilience and growth—you won’t want to miss this conversation.
In This Episode, We Cover:
🔹 Why mentorship is essential in shaping a successful legal career.
🔹 What it takes to transition from attorney to law firm partner.
🔹 The evolving eviction laws and their impact on landlords and tenants.
🔹 How cultural experiences can influence personal and professional growth.
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Advocacy isn’t just about policies—it’s about people. In this episode of The Real Spill, host Katie Spillers sits down with Tess Vogler https://www.linkedin.com/in/heytessalanae/ to discuss the power of personal storytelling in shaping housing legislation. From their first meeting at the Advocate Conference to engaging with lawmakers on issues like good cause eviction, Tess and Katie share their firsthand experiences in the multifamily industry and why community involvement is key to making a lasting impact.
This episode dives into the human side of advocacy, highlighting the struggles, triumphs, and responsibilities that come with fighting for better housing policies. Tess also shares insights on the mental health challenges faced by housing professionals and the importance of fostering inclusive, resident-first communities. Whether you’re in property management, policy advocacy, or just passionate about housing, this episode is packed with valuable lessons and inspiration.
In This Episode, We Cover:
-Why are personal stories so effective in influencing lawmakers and shaping housing legislation?
-What challenges does the housing industry face when it comes to advocacy and resident experience?
-The economic challenges impacting the housing market require thoughtful policy solutions and industry collaboration.
-How can housing professionals build stronger relationships with residents and create inclusive communities?
Advocacy starts with you! Listen to this episode, get inspired, and find ways to get involved in shaping the future of housing. Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with your network. Together, we can drive meaningful change! 🎧
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What does it take to break barriers in the legal industry while championing advocacy for the multifamily housing sector?
In this episode of The Real Spill, host Katie Spillers sits down with Ayiesha Beverlyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ayiesha-b-62609a140/ , General Counsel for the National Apartment Associationhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/naahq/ , to discuss her inspiring journey in law, the importance of representation, and the evolving challenges of housing regulations.
Ayiesha shares personal stories about mentorship, the hurdles she faced as a woman of color in the legal field, and her passion for using law as a tool for change.
From rising insurance costs to housing affordability, this episode dives into the pressing issues shaping the industry today. Ayiesha also highlights the significance of mental health in high-pressure careers and how self-care plays a crucial role in long-term success.
In This Episode We Cover:
-Why is representation in law and advocacy essential for shaping a more inclusive industry?
-What are the biggest legal and regulatory challenges facing the multifamily housing sector today?
-The importance of mentorship and community in building a strong career in law.
-How can legal advocacy and collaboration drive real change in housing policies?
Tune in to this inspiring conversation with Ayiesha Beverly and discover the powerful role of legal advocacy, mentorship, and representation in shaping the future of housing.
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