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  • Mackinac Island

    In this episode of The Reference Desk, Katie is bewitched with Mackinac Island.

    Nestled in the cold, deep waters between the upper and lower pennisulas of Michigan lies the idyllic and picturesque Mackinac Island. What was once a beloved spot for indigenous people evolved into a fur trader’s outpost, a military stronghold, and eventually the tourist destination we know today. From it’s unique ban on automobiles to its Victorian-era flagship hotel, this gem of an island transports its visitor’s back in time.

    Let’s explore its unique history, fascinating year-round lifestyle, and it’s darkest haunts.

    For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website.

    Recommended titles: 

    The Watch That Ends the Night by Allan Wolf

    Beauty Mark by Carole Boston Weatherford

    Outlander by Diana Gabaldon

    What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat by Aubrey Gordon

    Secrets of Mackinac Island series by Katie Winters

    The Pink Pony: Murder on Mackinac Island by Charles Cutter

    Snowed In by Rachel Hawthorne

    Timeless: Inside Mackinac Island's Historic Cottages by Moira Croghan, Mark Bearss

    Haunts of Mackinac: Ghost Stories, Legends and Tragic Tales of Mackinac Island by Todd Clements

    Mackinac Island: It's History in Pictures by Eugene T. Peterson

    If you're interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our bookshop.org affiliate shop

    Links: 

    @BaileyyJanette on TikTok

    @megsonmackinac on TikTok

    Voice of Mackinac Island

    Lore episode 91: Beneath the Surface

    Your Haunted Holiday episode 57: The Grand Hotel

    Haunted Places: Mackinac Island

    Straits Pride

    Mackinac Artists Market

    Mackinac Bands of Chippewa and Ottawa Indians

    The Island Bookstore

    Harry Potter and the Sacred Text

    The Real Question

    The Grand Hotel

    10 Things You Might Not Know About Mackinac Island's Grand Hotel

    Remembering Mackinac Island's Agatha Biddle

    Winter Life on Mackinac Island

    Island Living: For Mackinac Full-timers, a Different Way of Life

    Spend the Night at Michigan's Most Haunted Hotel

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    1 hr 21 min
  • The Donner Party

    This week, Hailee is bewitched by the tragic fate of the Donner Party.  Literally every conceivable thing went wrong for this rag-tag group of travelers. Pioneers traveling the Oregon trail were inspired by the promise of free land in California and Oregon. Spurred on by what journalist John L. O’Sullivan coined Manifest Destiny, and encouraged by President Polk who was so singular in his focus of owning the western part of the United States he started the Mexican American war, these settlers thought it was their Divine right to journey west and claim the land for themselves. They were promised acres of good, farmable land by the Westward Expansion organizations, never minding that most of California was still owned by Mexico and, of course, hundreds, maybe thousands of indigenous people already called the land home. Hoping to take a newly "discovered" shortcut that would supposedly shave off 300 miles of their journey, the Donner party unfortunately ended up trapped in the Sierra Nevadas in feet of snow and very quickly began to starve.

    Titles recommended in this episode:

    • The Snow Fell Three Graves Deep by Allen Roth
    • The Hunger by Alma Katsu
    • To Stay Alive: Mary Ann Graves and the Tragic Journey of the Donner Party by Skila Brown
    • Daughters Unto Devils by Amy Lukavics
    • The Best Land Under Heaven: The Donner Party in the Age of Manifest Destiny by Michael Wallis
    • The Indifferent Stars Above: The Harrowing Saga of a Donner Party Bride by Daniel James Brown

    If you’re interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our bookshop.org affiliate shop

    Links

    For a full list of the members of the Donner Party as well as their fate, click here.

    Pay the Oregon Trail game!
    This amazing website has complete biographies of most of the Donner Party, maps, family trees and so much more. Wonderful.

    In 2020, a group of snow hikers attempted to take the same path as the Forlorn Hope Expedition. Track their journey here.


    For a full list of our sources and show notes, check out our website!

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    2 hr 1 min
  • Debutantes of the London Social Season

    In this episode, Katie is bewitched with the debutantes of the London social season. 

    Since the late 1700s, Britain's most eligible young ladies have been presented to society during London's social season. Providing the framework for our favorite novels like Pride and Prejudice, debutante society hides a deeply problematic world of sexism, racism, classism, and more. In this deep-dive into the beginnings and evolution of this bizarre ritual, we explore the realm of the ultra-exclusive debutante social scene. 

    For more information, and a list of all our sources, visit our website. 

    Titles recommended in this episode: 

    The Season: A Social History of the Debutante by Kristen Richardson

    The Husband Hunters: Social Climbing in London and New York by Anne de Courcy and Clare Corbett

    Women of Means: The Fascinating Biographies of Royals, Heiresses, Eccentrics, and Other Poor Little Rich Girls by Margaret Wagman-Gellar

    The Bridgertons Series by Julia Quinn

    Belgravia by Julian Fellowes

    The American Heiress by Daisy Goodwin

    The Debutantes series by Jennifer Lynn Barnes

    If you're interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our bookshop.org affiliate shop

    Links:

    The 10 Dos and Don’ts of Etiquette to Become a Lady in Regency England

    Debutante balls and the persistent obsession with the purity of young women

    Queer in the Regency: a Slice of Once-Hidden LGBT History

    Gender roles in the 19th century

    Love and Courtship in Regency England

    The London Season

    The Racist History of Prom

    The Curious Plight of the Modern Debutante

    The History of British Slave Ownership Has Been Buried

    'Princess Seraphina' Steps Out at Vauxhill Gardens

    A Survivor's Guide to Georgian Marriage


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    1 hr 23 min
  • Rock myths, legends, and curses
    In this episode, Hailee is bewitched with rock and roll myths, legends and curses. Who created Rock and Roll? It’s a question that has been heavily debated and there are many possible answers. Rock has certainly had a very turbulent history. Close calls, plane crashes, heavy use of drugs and alcohol, mysterious deaths, just to name a few. Join us this week as week as Hailee tells the tale of Robert Johnson who may have sold his soul at the crossroads to become an amazing musician, the 27 club, which claims the lives of numerous rock and roll legends at the age of 27 and the Buddy Holly Curse.For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website. Recommended titles: One to Watch by Kate Stayman-London Take a Walk on the Dark Side: Rock and Roll Myths, Legends, and Curses by R. Gary Patterson What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about Fat by Aubrey Gordon The Day you Begin by Jacqueline Woodson Jookin': The Rise of Social Dance Formations in African-American Culture by Katrina Hazzard-Gordon The Walrus Was Paul: The Great Beatle Death Clues by R. Gary Patterson Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues by Elijah Wald Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of Rock & Roll by the editors of Rolling Stone The Devil and the Bluebird by Jennifer Mason-Black If you're interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our bookshop.org affiliate shop. Links:Netflix documentary - ReMastered: Devil at the CrossroadsRobert Johnson Biography

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    1 hr 34 min
  • Special Episode: Meet Your Hosts!

    In this special episode of The Reference Desk, Katie and Hailee tell you a bit about themselves, why they started a podcast and play a game of Would You Rather!


    Books Mentioned

    Fangirl by Rainbow Rowell

    The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath

    The Outlander series by Diana Gabeldon

    Books by Louise Miller

    Books by Jenny Colgan

    The Fingerprints series by Melinda Metz

    If you're interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our bookshop.org (affiliate shop)

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    52 min
  • Ayahuasca

    In this episode, Katie is bewitched with the psychedelic drug ayahuasca.

    Deep in the Amazon basin of South America, indigenous people rely on the wisdom of the sacred ayahuasca brew, a psychoactive drink. For centuries, this medicine has guided and healed those who partake in its sacred ritual. Traditionally, a trained shaman guides their community members through the ritual, but Westerners want in, too.

    For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website

    Recommended titles: 

    Songteller by Dolly Parton

    Cravings by Chrissy Teigen

    Cravings: Hungry for More by Chrissy Teigen

    The Little Blue Cottage by Kelly Jordan and Jessica Courtney-Tickle

    Miss Rumphius by Barbara Cooney

    You Are Your Child's First Teacher by Rahima Baldwin Dancy

    Ayahuasca in my Blood: Twenty-five Years of Medicine Dreaming by Peter Gorman

    Ayahuasca Visions: The Religious Iconography of a Peruvian Shaman by Pablo Amaringo and Luis Eduardo Luna

    Nine Perfect Strangers by Liane Moriarty

    Fitness Junkie by Lucy Sykes and Jo Piazza

    If you're interested in purchasing the books mentioned in this episode, visit our bookshop.org affiliate shop

    Links: 

    The Brutal Mirror

    Ayahuasca Research

    Why You Will Never Get a Traditional Ayahuasca Treatment

    What's a "Traditional" Ayahuasca Ceremony?

    How Can You Drink Ayahuasca Legally in the US?

    Ayahuasca: The Dark Side and Dangers

    The Colonization of the Ayahuasca Experience

    Cultural Context and the Beneficial Applications of Ayahuasca


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    1 hr 3 min
  • The Incubator Babies of Coney Island

    In this episode of the Reference Desk, Hailee tells us about the strange Coney Island sideshow responsible for saving hundreds of lives. Martin Couney's Infant Incubator facility was one of Coney Island's most popular exhibits.

    For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website.

    To buy books mentioned in this episode: Bookshop.org affiliate shop.

    Links:

    Life Under Glass - Radio Documentary

    The Forgotten Carnival Sideshow that Saved Countless Babies

    NPR: Babies On Display

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    47 min
  • Frank Abagnale, Jr.

    In this episode of The Reference Desk, Katie is bewitched by Frank Abagnale, Jr.  

    One of America's most notorious con-men, Frank Abagnale Jr's unlikely journey into the world of check forgery, criminal impersonation, and other scams, inspired the popular film "Catch Me If You Can."  From his humble beginnings as a teenage runaway cashing bad checks, to his summer spent escorting a group of Pan-Am flight attendant hopefuls through Europe, this episode covers his life of crime from beginning to end. After our deep-dive into Abagnale's problematic rise to notoriety, we give you book recommendations about the world of fraud, scams, and swindles. 

     For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website.

    Recommended books: 

    The Midnight Library by Matt Haig

    Echo Mountain by Lauren Wolk

    Catch Me If You Can: The True Story of a Real Fake by Frank W. Abagnale and Stan Redding

    Revival by Stephen King

    The Talented Mr. Ripley by Patricia Highsmith

    Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup by John Carreyrou

    Charlatan by Pope Brock

    The Bling Ring by Nancy Jo Sales

    Dot Con by James Veitch

    To buy books mentioned in this episode: Bookshop.org affiliate shop. 

    Links:  Frank Abagnale

     https://www.campsidemedia.com/shows/chameleon

     https://www.earwolf.com/show/scam-goddess/

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    1 hr 17 min
  • The Salem Witch Trials

    In this episode of The Reference Desk, Hailee is bewitched with The Salem Witch Trials. 

    Between February 1692 and May 1693, more than two hundred people were accused of witchcraft in Salem and surrounding towns. Thirty were found guilty, nineteen were executed by hanging, one other man was pressed to death, and at least five people died in jail. Also, two dogs were found guilty of witchcraft. Listen to find out more about this strange time in America's history!

    For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website.

    Recommended books: 

    The Physick Book of Deliverance Dane by Katherine Howe

    Conversion by Katherine Howe

    The Daughters of Temperance Hobbs by Katherine Howe

    A Season With the Witch by J. W. Ocker

    Six Women of Salem by Marilynne K. Roach

    The Witches: Suspicion, Betrayal, and Hysteria in 1692 Salem by Stacy Schiff

    Rebel Spy by Veronica Rossi

    To buy books mentioned in this episode: Bookshop.org affiliate shop!

    Links:

    A Brief History of the Salem Witch Trials by Smithsonian Magazine

    How Rye Bread May Have Caused the Salem Witch Trials

    Unobscured Podcast: Season 1

    Salem's Haunted Happenings



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    1 hr 5 min
  • The WPA Packhorse Library

    In this episode of The Reference Desk, Katie is bewitched with the WPA Packhorse Library.

    As part of FDR's New Deal, the Works Progress Administration provided employment for millions of Americans struggling with the effects of the Great Depression. In the most remote pockets of Appalachia, the WPA Packhorse Library Program delivered books by horse to thousands of nearly-inaccessible homes and hollers.

    This episode details the history and impact of the WPA Packhorse Library program, and provides book recommendations for listeners interested in emerging themselves even further into the bizarre and beautiful piece of American history.

    For more information and a full list of our sources, visit our website.

    Books recommended: 

    Miss Dorothy and her Bookmobile by Gloria Houston and Susan Condie Lamb

    My Librarian is a Camel by Margriet Ruurs

    Biblioburro by Jeanette Winter

    That Book Woman by Heather Henson and David Small

    Ramp Hollow: The Ordeal of Appalachia by Steven Stoll

    Wednesday's Children by Kathryn Anne Michaels

    What You Are Getting Wrong About Appalachia by Elizabeth Catte

    Down Cut Shin Creek by Kathi Appelt and Jeanne Cannella Schmitzer

    Library on Wheels by Sharlee Glenn

    The Uncommon Reader by Alan Bennett

    The Little Paris Bookshop by Nina George

    The Bookshop on the Corner by Jenny Colgan

    The Librarian of Boone's Hollow by Kim Vogel Sawyer

    The Book Women of Troublesome Creek by Kim Michele Richardson

    The Giver of Stars by Jojo Moyes

    To buy books mentioned in this episode: Bookshop.org

    Links: 

    Horse-Riding Librarians Were the Great Depression's Bookmobiles

    Culture, Poverty, and Education in Appalachian Kentucky

    A History of US Public Libraries Exhibit

    New Deal

    In 1932, Works Program Spelled HOPE for Millions of Jobless Americans

    Where is Appalachia?

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    44 min

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