The Relentless Rejects Podcast

The Relentless Rejects Podcast

By Preston LyonsSociety & Culture
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The Relentless Rejects Podcast episodes

  • Leadership at Every Rank, Featuring Marshall Boyd

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    In this engaging interview, Marshall shares his journey from a Houston sports enthusiast to a dedicated firefighter, emphasizing the importance of faith, family, and leadership in the fire service. Discover insights on leadership, influence, and the value of humility and continuous learning in the fire community. In this engaging interview, Marshall shares his journey of stepping outside his comfort zone to learn, network, and grow as a fire service professional. He discusses the importance of mentorship, involvement in training communities like the Vigilantes and Fire Tactics, and the value of authentic leadership and continuous learning.

    1 hr 33 min
  • You Don’t Get to Rewrite Your Story-You Earn It Featuring Nichole O'Donnell from The Salty Rookie

    Who you were doesn’t define you, but what you do next does

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    In this episode, firefighter and author Nichole O’Donnell shares her journey from a troubled past to building a career in the fire service. Known as “The Salty Rookie,” Nichole breaks down the reality of growth, discipline, and what it takes to earn your place in a profession built on standards.

    This conversation goes beyond surface-level motivation. It covers resilience, accountability, and the challenge of building a reputation—both in the firehouse and on social media, while staying authentic to who you are.

    Nichole also shares lessons from writing her book, navigating criticism, and representing women in the fire service without lowering the standard.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Why your past doesn’t define you—but your actions do

    • The role of discipline and consistency in personal growth

    • Navigating adversity and building resilience in the fire service

    • The impact of social media on your professional reputation

    • How to build a personal brand without losing authenticity

    • Breaking stereotypes while maintaining high performance standards

    • Why leadership starts with accountability

    This episode is a direct look at what it means to take ownership of your story, and back it up with action.

    1 hr 42 min
  • You Know What to Do, So Why Aren’t You Doing It? | Josh Banks

    Most firefighters don’t have a knowledge problem; they have an execution problem.

    In this episode, Josh Banks breaks down what actually drives performance in the fire service: accountability, training consistency, and the ability to execute under pressure. This conversation covers leadership, fitness, decision-making, and the realities of balancing work and family life.

    From real-world training in gear to documenting performance and making fast decisions on the fireground, Josh emphasizes that growth comes from action, not intention.

    This isn’t about doing more. It’s about doing what matters, consistently.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Why failing is a necessary part of growth

    • The importance of continuous training—especially outside your department

    • How to improve decision-making in high-pressure environments

    • Why accountability and documentation matter more than you think

    • The role of fitness and nutrition in fireground performance

    • How to balance family life with the demands of the job

    • Why execution—not knowledge—separates professional

    If you want to perform at a higher level in the fire service, this episode will challenge how you approach training, discipline, and daily standards.

    1 hr 25 min
  • Leadership Isn’t a Rank—It’s a Responsibility featuring Jason Hoevelmann

    What separates average leaders from those who actually move the fire service forward?


    In this episode, Chief Jason Hoevelmann breaks down the reality of leadership in today’s fire service—where expectations are high, pressure is constant, and leaders are never truly off the clock.


    Drawing from decades of experience and national-level instruction, Chief Hoevelmann shares practical insights on mentorship, leadership development, and building a culture that produces strong company officers and resilient teams.


    This conversation focuses on what leadership actually requires: continuous learning, accountability, and the ability to influence people at every level of the organization.





    • Why leadership is a responsibility—not a position

    • The critical role mentorship plays in firefighter development

    • How to build a culture that supports growth and accountability

    • Strategies for new company officers navigating leadership challenges

    • The importance of adapting leadership styles across generations

    • How to address conflict, toxicity, and complacency in the firehouse

    • Why continuous learning is non-negotiable for leaders



    If you’re serious about leadership in the fire service, this episode provides a clear standard for what it takes.

    Key Takeaways:

    1 hr 22 min
  • Pressure Is a Privilege | Faith, Family, and Fire Service Leadership – Josh Bourque

    What happens when pressure isn’t something you avoid—but something you chase?


    In this episode, firefighter and Mississippi Smoke Diver Josh Bourque breaks down what it means to live up to a legacy while building your own identity in the fire service. As a second-generation firefighter, Josh shares the weight of expectation, the responsibility of the job, and the role faith and family play in keeping everything aligned.

    This conversation goes beyond surface-level leadership talk. It gets into mental toughness, discipline, and the internal standards required to build a culture of excellence—starting with yourself.

    Josh makes it clear: pressure is not the enemy. It’s the proving ground.


    Key Takeaways:

    • Why faith should anchor your identity—not your job

    • The reality of growing up in a fire service legacy

    • How pressure can either break you or build you

    • What Smoke Diver training teaches about mental toughness

    • Why training hard is a responsibility, not an option

    • How to lead without rank or title

    • The connection between personal standards and firehouse culture

    If you’re serious about the job, this episode will challenge how you think about leadership, discipline, and what it means to be a professional firefighter.

    1 hr 21 min
  • "The Little Things Mean the Most" Featuring Adam Patterson

    What does real leadership in the fire service actually look like?

    In this episode, Battalion Chief Adam Patterson breaks down the realities of leadership beyond the rank—where mental health, family, and brotherhood all collide. This isn’t theory.

    Adam shares lessons from his transition into command, the weight of responsibility, and the importance of staying grounded as a husband, father, and leader. From navigating difficult conversations to building a culture of accountability, this conversation focuses on what actually moves the needle inside a firehouse.

    The truth is simple: the little things matter. The way you show up, communicate, and support your people will define your leadership far more than any tactic ever will.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Why family support is non-negotiable in the fire service

    • The role of mental health and disconnecting from the job

    • How strong brotherhood carries crews through tragedy

    • Leadership through humility, accountability, and consistency

    • Why mentorship is critical for the next generation

    • How to handle conflict without losing credibility

    • The power of positivity in high-stress environments

    This episode is a direct look at what it means to lead with intention—on the fireground, in the station, and at home.

    1 hr 23 min
  • Sobriety, Leadership & Calculated Aggression in the Fire Service | Justin Carter

    In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons sits down with firefighter Justin Carter to discuss leadership, sobriety, mentorship, and the culture of the fire service.

    Justin shares his personal journey navigating identity beyond the badge, his path to sobriety, and the lessons he’s learned through mentorship and leadership in the firehouse.

    The conversation explores the balance between aggressive firefighting and calculated decision-making, the importance of developing experience on the fireground, and why the fire service must prioritize both mental health and servant leadership.

    Justin also discusses the mission behind his podcast The Carter Mentality, which highlights powerful stories from individuals inside and outside the fire service who are striving to grow, lead, and serve their communities.

    This episode is a candid discussion about firefighter identity, leadership development, mentorship culture, and the responsibility of the modern firefighter to grow both personally and professionally.

    1 hr 39 min
  • Bonus Episode: Inside the March Mayhem – Podclass Experience

    In this bonus episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons sits down with Preston Goldstein to break down one of the most anticipated firefighter training events in the country — March Mayhem Fire Conference.


    We discuss what makes March Mayhem such a powerful gathering for firefighters and first responders: world-class instructors, hands-on training, meaningful conversations, and a culture that pushes the craft forward.


    From engine company operations and truck work to leadership panels and mentorship opportunities, this episode gives listeners a preview of the training, speakers, and experiences waiting for firefighters attending the conference.


    We also talk about the Podclass, live podcast coverage of the event, and why conferences like March Mayhem are critical for strengthening the fire service community.


    If you care about improving your department, building relationships in the fire service, and learning from some of the best firefighters in the country, this conversation is for you.



    Firehouse Vigilance

    https://firehousevigilance.com


    National Fire Radio

    https://nationalfireradio.com


    Ambassadors of the Craft

    https://ambassadorsofthecraft.com


    Candice Ashby

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/candiceashby


    Kevin Fluger – Dagum Cadre

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinflugger

    People and Organizations Mentioned

    1 hr 11 min
  • From Complacency to Commitment | Chris “Dragon” Scott on Training, Mentorship & Staying in Love with the Fire Service

    In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons sits down with firefighter Chris “Dragon” Scott to talk about the journey from complacency to commitment in the fire service.


    Chris shares the honest story of how he went from being overweight and disconnected from the job to becoming deeply passionate about training, mentorship, and building a culture of improvement within his department.


    The conversation dives into the impact that conferences and mentorship can have on a firefighter’s career, the reality of imposter syndrome among high performers, and the importance of saying “yes” to opportunities that force growth.


    Chris also explains the origins of his nickname “Dragon,” the lessons he learned launching his podcast, and how firefighters can quietly influence culture and change inside their own departments—even when they don’t hold rank.


    This episode is about staying in love with the job, building strong crews, and leaving the fire service better than you found it.


    If you’re a firefighter looking to improve your craft, influence your department, or reconnect with the mission of the job, this conversation will resonate.

    1 hr 35 min
  • You’re Not Just Tired — You’re Dysregulated: Haley Scellick Explains Why

    In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Preston Lyons sits down with Haley Scellick, nurse practitioner and co-founder of First Responder Health and Wellness, to address a hard truth: many first responders are operating in chronic stress and calling it “normal.”


    Haley explains how fatigue, poor sleep, mood swings, weight gain, and declining performance are often early signs of hormonal imbalance and stress dysregulation — not just part of the job. She breaks down cardiovascular risk in the fire service, the impact of shift work on hormones, and why proactive lab work and individualized care matter.


    The conversation challenges the reactive culture of “wait until something breaks” and replaces it with a preventative, data-driven approach to health. From nutrition and sleep hygiene to stress physiology and telemedicine solutions, this episode is a blueprint for protecting your longevity — both in your career and at home.


    If you’re serious about staying strong, sharp, and present for your family, this conversation matters.

    1 hr 19 min

About The Relentless Rejects Podcast

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The Relentless Rejects podcast, hosted by Preston Lyons, dives into the tough conversations the fire service needs to address: leadership, culture, accountability, and the personal battles we face behind the scenes. We expose what’s not working, share real stories from the field, and bring forward-thinking solutions to help firefighters lead with purpose and leave the job better than they found it.

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