The Retail Razor: Retail Transformers Podcast

Shoptalk’s Brendan Witcher on retail strategy vs. ideas, retail media math, and the agentic commerce risk in the middle layer.
 
Amazon owns 76% of retail media. Walmart owns 6%. That leaves 18% for every other retailer, and Brendan Witcher thinks plenty of leaders jump in anyway without a retail strategy that does the math.

Recorded live and in person at Shoptalk Fall in Nashville, Ricardo Belmar sits down with Brendan Witcher, Global VP of Product & Content at Shoptalk and a former Forrester retail analyst. Brendan’s diagnosis is blunt: too many decision-makers are “strategically lazy.” They grab a stat that supports what they already want, call an idea a retail strategy, and move on.

Brendan explains what an un-lazy retail strategy looks like, why it’s fine to leave a meeting saying “we don’t know yet,” and why the agentic commerce question that worries him most is about the tech companies in the middle, the ones building the AI agents your customers will use. Casey Golden joins Ricardo for the intro.

What You'll Learn in This Episode

• Why Brendan calls so many retail decision-makers “strategically lazy,” and how a 98% sustainability stat shows the trap
• The retail media math: Amazon’s 76%, Walmart’s 6%, and the 18% left for everyone else
• How to tell an idea from a retail strategy (one of them has been worked out and vetted)
• The one question that tells you whether shoppable video is worth it for a product
• Shoptalk’s four feelings framework: inspired, capable, knowledgeable, and empowered, plus why “knowledge is the absence of questions”
• The agentic commerce risk in the middle layer: what AI agents might do with your emails and content before a shopper ever sees them

 
Next on Retail Transformers: more conversations recorded live at Shoptalk Fall in the Rethink Retail Creator Studio. Subscribe so you don’t miss them.
 
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About Our Guest
Brendan Witcher. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bwitcher/
Global VP of Product & Content. Shoptalk. https://shoptalk.com
Brendan Witcher is Global VP of Product and Content for all Shoptalk and Groceryshop events, where he leads content strategy across a global portfolio of retail and commerce conferences. He brings deep expertise in digital transformation, consumer behavior, ecommerce, omnichannel commerce, personalization, customer experience, and retail technology, helping brands and industry leaders understand the trends reshaping modern commerce.

Before joining Shoptalk, Brendan held multiple analyst roles at Forrester, including VP and Principal Analyst covering retail strategy, where he advised leading retailers, consumer brands, and executive teams on digital strategy and technology-led growth. His research and advisory work focused on translating fast-moving market shifts into practical strategies that improve customer engagement, strengthen commerce capabilities, and drive measurable business outcomes.

Chapters

(00:00) "Strategically Lazy": The Retail Truth Nobody Wants to Hear

(00:48) Live from Shoptalk Fall: What You Need to Hear

(04:34) Retail Agent Con: 500 Retailers Take on AI Agents

(06:20) Why Great Events Make You Feel Different

(09:57) Inspired, Capable, Knowledgeable, Empowered: The 4-Legged Stool

(13:18) Stop Overgeneralizing Retail

(15:46) Why Your Retail Strategy Is Failing

(19:32) Retail Media Math: Amazon Owns 76%, Everyone Else Fights Over Scraps

(22:13) AI Shopping Agents: Consumers Are Easy, the Middle Layer Is the Threat

(28:01) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

Shannon Flanagan on choosing your career instead of chasing it – the break, the pause, and the rewrite.
 
Shannon Flanagan has run more than 80 Power of We Wednesday interviews at Retail Women in Tech. Not one of those women had a linear career path. All of them hunting for jobs inside a system that only rewards one.

Shannon spent two decades inside Fortune 500 retailers and hypergrowth startups developing teams, leading change management, and supporting people through reinvention. In early 2025 the unexpected happened. A layoff, and suddenly she found herself pausing, reflecting, and looking to reinvent her own career. Two things she'd planned to do at retirement showed up 15 years early. Her fiancé told her to go all in on the nonprofit she wanted to start, Retail Women in Tech (RWIT). Then a friend called to say she wanted to write a book about with her and tell the stories of the women in RWIT. Shannon said yes to both, with three teenagers at home, a mortgage in one of the most expensive areas in the country, and no paycheck coming.

Shannon’s new book, Choose - don't chase - Your Career, is built in three parts: the break, the pause, and the rewrite. Shannon walks Ricardo and Casey through all three, starting with the layoff that opens chapter one and the bottle of champagne she opened on her deck by noon that same day. It's the most personal career reinvention story we've ever had on the show.

This one goes deep. Casey admits that the last real pause she took was the summer she was 17, and that she spent years chasing goals she set at 12. Shannon names money as the hardest thing she had to let go of, then gives the line from her financial advisor that she still repeats every week. This is Season 2, Episode 9 of Retail Transformers.

What You'll Learn in This Episode

• Why the corporate ladder still gets rewarded even though 80 out of 80 careers zigzag.
• What the break, the pause, and the rewrite look like week to week.
• The three months it takes to unwind, and why almost everyone quits at week two.
• How Shannon answered the mortgage question when she walked away from a paycheck.
• The reframe that beats the stereotypical deathbed question: what would you tell your niece or nephew to do?
• The through line she found across all the stories in the book, and why your old journals are the place to find yours.
• Why Shannon built Retail Women in Tech with no paywall.

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About Our Guest
Shannon Flanagan. https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-e-flanagan/
Author. Choose - don't chase - Your Career. https://a.co/d/0cXKYT1f
Founder. Retail Women in Tech. https://retailwomenintech.org
Shannon has spent her career inside complex organizations, driving significant paradigm shifts in how teams operate at fortune 500 companies and hyper growth startups. This has given her a rare practitioner's view of what moves people, culture and business forward. At twenty-five, Shannon discovered her why: to create the conditions for people to love what they do every day. That purpose has been the through line of her work ever since. Drawing from her experience in organizational design, leadership development and change management, she has dedicated her career to supporting people and organizations through reinvention. Whether that means launching new businesses, optimizing talent or moving through the seasons of our lives.

Shannon made a life-changing decision in the Spring of 2025. She started a non-profit, Retail Women in Tech, and wrote a book  — two things she planned to do when she "retired."  When the opportunities to do both manifested in front of her within weeks of each other, fifteen years ahead of schedule, she knew she couldn't turn a blind eye. So, she faced her fears, listened to her gut and pivoted to seeing herself as an asset to invest in, giving up a paycheck and security to actualize her life's work.

She's a business owner, an author, a speaker, a life coach and a mother of three. And she believes that by sharing our stories, we spark the inspiration and change we seek in our own lives and the world around us. Shannon didn't have this figured out before she wrote a book telling other women how to figure it out. She still doesn't. And that's the point.

Chapters

(00:00) Teaser

(00:55) Show Intro

(03:29) Introduction & The Mystery Mug

(04:28) Why She Wrote the Book Now

(07:47) The Mug Story Revealed

(09:09) Getting Laid Off

(12:21) The Corporate Ladder Myth

(18:06) Break, Pause, Rewrite

(24:27) Letting Go of Money and Fear

(31:56) Facing Fear and Choosing Not Chasing

(37:57) Redefining Success

(45:43) Final Reflections & Where to Find the Book

(53:08) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E8 Cole Moir on what replaced the CMO role - the four hires that matter, and how he'd manage budget for a $200 million brand.
 
31% of Fortune 500 companies don't have a CMO right now. Starbucks, Walgreens, and General Motors are three of them.
 
That number is the cleanest way to describe what's happened to the CMO role.
 
Cole Moir has spent close to 20 years inside the shift. He led brand marketing at TCL, where the company became the fastest-growing consumer electronics brand two years running. Before that, Samsung, Sony Entertainment, and Motorola. Before that, agency years at Ogilvy, Edelman, and 360i. He has owned the NFL relationship, partnered with Olympic athletes, and run Call of Duty campaigns.

Ricardo Belmar and Casey Golden put the obvious question to him. If the CMO role keeps getting renamed or removed, what takes its place?

Cole's answer is an AI marketing organization that looks nothing like the org chart most companies run today. Small always-on strategy teams. Cohorts of five to twenty agents doing tactical work. Four roles carrying the entire function. And the people who last are the ones who can look at infinite AI-generated creative and say which piece is any good. Cole calls that taste. He thinks it's the scarcest skill in marketing.

Then Casey put a number on the table. $200 million brand. How would you budget marketing? Cole answers with real percentages, then adds a warning: spend under 25% in the upper and mid funnel and you'll pay for it inside two years.

We also get the partnership math nobody publishes. Only 5% of NFL fans have ever been to a game. 95% watch at home, on their own TV or a friend's. Of the 100 most-watched TV shows over the past decade, 96 are football. That's how a challenger TV brand builds the case for an NFL deal.

Cole closes with a single question that tells you whether your AI marketing organization is real: if AI disappeared tomorrow, would your system break, or would everyone go back to what they were already doing?

What You'll Learn in This Episode

• Why 31% of the Fortune 500 has no CMO, and which titles absorbed the CMO role.
• Why the next CEO is more likely to come out of marketing than sales.
• The four roles Cole says every marketing team needs, and the two he'd stop hiring for.
• How an AI marketing organization gets staffed, from agent cohorts to human-in-the-loop.
• How to split a $200 million budget across upper funnel, conversion, and testing.
• The 25% floor Cole says you can't drop below without paying for it later.
• How NFL and Olympic partnerships get evaluated before anyone signs anything.
• The two influencer groups that will matter, and why last-click kills the case for both.
• Brand lift studies, messaging pull-through, and MMM as the influencer scorecard.
• How AI changed creator discovery, and why Cole writes influencer contracts in two parts.
• The three skills he'd tell a 25-year-old marketer to build, and the two habits to drop.
• Cole's one-question test for whether AI is integrated or decorative.

 

Support our sponsors:
This Episode is Brought to You By RetailClub.
Retail and brand leaders can attend RetailClub AI Festival completely budget-free. A free ticket, plus $1,750 toward travel and hotel. From the founders of Shoptalk and Groceryshop, it's three days fully outdoors in Huntington Beach, September 22 to 24, with 2,000 senior leaders working through how AI is transforming retail. If you're shaping AI's future in retail, budget shouldn't be why you miss it. Register by August 28 at https://retailclub.com/retail-razor-podcast

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About Our Guest
Cole Moir. https://www.linkedin.com/in/colemoir/
Cole Moir is a growth architect who turns culture into commerce.

Over nearly two decades at Ogilvy, 360i, and Edelman, and with brands like Samsung and Motorola, he's helped companies compete in crowded categories and win. Most recently, as VP of Brand and Digital Marketing at TCL North America, he led brand, digital, eCommerce, and performance strategy for the fastest-growing TV brand in the US for two consecutive years, backed by partnerships with the NFL and the International Olympic Committee.

From the Oscar Mayer bacon dating app to the Motorola Razr relaunch and next-generation SQD-Mini LED innovation, his focus has never changed: helping brands punch above their weight and take outsized market share. Today, he's deep-diving into AI and advising growth-stage brands.


Chapters

(00:00) Teaser

(00:53) Show Intro

(04:33) Welcome Cole Moir

(07:29) AI and CEO Expectations

(08:20) CMO to CEO Pipeline

(09:36) Guest Career Background

(10:37) Future Marketing Org Design

(13:33) Hiring for New Roles

(14:55) Big Brand Partnerships

(19:08) Measuring Partnership Impact

(20:19) Influencer Marketing Evolution

(24:12) AI for Creator Discovery

(27:09) Influencer Measurement KPIs

(29:50) Budget Allocation Across Channels

(32:39) Budget Split Strategy

(35:16) Attribution and Geo Tests

(36:52) Agentic AI Org Design

(38:40) Skills for Future CMOs

(41:01) AI Predictions and Creative

(45:25) Taste and AI Integration

(48:06) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E7 Louisa Loran on Why Retail Transformation Stalls in the AI Era
 
What if the biggest obstacle to retail transformation isn't your tech stack or your budget, but the people sitting in the corner offices? In this episode of Retail Transformers, Ricardo Belmar and Casey Golden sit down with Louisa Loran, former executive at Google, Maersk, Moet Hennessy and Diageo, board member, and author of Leadership Anatomy in Motion, to unpack why so many transformation efforts stall even when the strategy looks perfect on paper.

Louisa makes the case that the real constraint in retail today is leadership capacity. The tools exist. The market is moving. What's missing is the willingness of leaders to unlearn what made them successful and become the change they're asking their organizations to make. Along the way, she explains why most companies are using AI to automate broken experiences faster than ever, how luxury went from a category to a baseline expectation, and the four behaviors that separate leaders who drive real retail transformation from those who just rearrange the org chart.

This is a conversation about leadership capacity, customer experience, and what genuine retail transformation demands when there's no clear playbook.

What You'll Learn in This Episode
•     Why leadership capacity, not demand, is the constraint holding retail back
•     The “you are a chapter, not the book” trap that turns transformation into logo changes
•     How AI in retail is accelerating broken experiences instead of fixing them
•     Why luxury became the new baseline expectation for every customer
•     The four behaviors of leaders who transform: envisioning, expanding, steering, embodying
•     Why a green dashboard might be the most dangerous thing in your business
•     The first uncomfortable shift every leader should make this quarter

Whether you lead a global retailer or a growing brand, this episode will leave you looking in the mirror and rethinking what retail transformation really requires from you as a leader.

Support our sponsors:
This Episode is Brought to You By RetailClub.
Retail and brand leaders can attend RetailClub AI Festival completely budget-free. A free ticket, plus $1,750 toward travel and hotel. From the founders of Shoptalk and Groceryshop, it's three days fully outdoors in Huntington Beach, September 22 to 24, with 2,000 senior leaders working through how AI is transforming retail. If you're shaping AI's future in retail, budget shouldn't be why you miss it. Register by August 28 at https://retailclub.com/retail-razor-podcast

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About Our Guest
Louisa Loran, https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisa-loran/
Website: https://www.louisaloran.com/
Author, “Leadership Anatomy in Motion”, https://a.co/d/0aU461hk
Louisa Loran advises CEOs and senior leadership teams through high-stakes decisions and structural change. Named to the Thinkers50 Radar 2026, she is recognized among thinkers whose ideas are shaping the future of leadership and business. Louisa has led transformation at Google (launching a billion-dollar supply chain solutions business), Maersk (co-authoring the strategy that doubled its share price), and Diageo and Moët Hennessy (building iconic luxury brands). She is the author of Leadership Anatomy in Motion, published globally by Fast Company Press. A strategic mind with a human lens, she has shaped industries by combining technological foresight with the courage to act before the path is clear. Across more than two decades and all continents, Louisa has worked across B2B, B2C, and global tech— bridging commercial impact with human-centered change. Louisa also serves on the boards of Copenhagen Business School and CataCap Private Equity.

Chapters

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:44) Show Intro

(00:04:03) Welcome, Louisa Loran!

(00:07:26) Leadership Capacity Gap

(00:08:32) Identity Over Optics

(00:11:44) Unlearning And Challengers

(00:17:42) Luxury As New Baseline

(00:22:17) Respecting The Rulebook

(00:24:45) Four Leadership Behaviors

(00:30:42) AI Needs Organization Change

(00:34:56) Automating Broken Experiences

(00:37:12) Change Levers Not Fifty

(00:38:11) Green Dashboards Trap

(00:41:02) Change Minds Not Reports

(00:43:31) AI Era Leadership Culture

(00:47:40) Envision Beyond Stores

(00:49:34) Four Behaviors In Practice

(00:52:13) Curiosity As Hardest Shift

(00:56:14) Make Six Seconds Shorter

(01:00:38) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E6 Julie Averill, Chief Impact Officer, on Retail AI Transformation & Human-Centered Leadership
 
Everyone in retail is chasing AI right now, and most of them are about to learn an expensive lesson. In this episode of Retail Transformers, Ricardo Belmar and Casey Golden sit down with Julie Averill, the former Global CIO of Lululemon and author of the new book Chief Impact Officer, to talk about why AI projects fail and what real retail AI transformation requires.

Julie’s core argument is the one every retail leader needs to hear today: AI doesn’t fix your culture, it reveals it. When you layer artificial intelligence on top of broken processes, incomplete data, and unclear decision rights, the technology works perfectly and the results are still garbage. That’s the real reason why AI projects fail, and it has almost nothing to do with the technology itself.

From a 20-hour Lululemon website outage that hit two days before her first day (and earned her a callout from Jim Cramer on live TV) to building a Bangalore tech hub that reached 46% women, Julie shares the hard-won stories behind two decades of retail transformation and the leadership philosophy that made it stick. If you want a clear-eyed take on retail AI transformation that puts people before platforms, this conversation delivers.

What You'll Learn in This Episode
●      Why 95% of AI projects fail, and why the technology is almost never the cause
●      How to spot when you’re putting AI on top of broken processes and weak data
●      Why a unified data foundation is the unglamorous work that decides whether retail AI transformation succeeds
●      How real-time data and decision rights have become table stakes, not a competitive advantage
●      How Julie built an inclusive Bangalore tech team as a business strategy, not a checkbox
●      The honesty gap in AI change management, and what happens to trust when the bill comes due
●      Why the goal of leadership is to make yourself unnecessary

Standout moments
●      [07:11] The Lululemon site meltdown and the “Temporary Savasana” error screen that greeted Julie before day one
●      [12:09] The catcher’s crouch: what baseball and systems thinking taught Julie about leading a tech organization
●      [16:28] Hypergrowth from $2B to $10B, and learning to say “not now” to a company addicted to yes
●      [21:17] Building inclusion in Bangalore: 46% women in a market where 14% of STEM jobs go to women
●      [24:54] The unified data foundation she kept deferring, and the winter-coats-in-Miami AI fail it caused
●      [31:32] Why real-time data is now the price of admission, using minute-by-minute competitor pricing
●      [37:54] AI change management honesty: the return-to-office parallel and the true cost of losing trust
●      [47:31] Making yourself unnecessary, walking away from a dream job, and “who am I without a logo?”
●      [55:58] Her billboard for every retail tech vendor: “AI is not the point.”
 

Support our sponsors:
This Episode is Brought to You By RetailClub.
Retail and brand leaders can attend RetailClub AI Festival completely budget-free. A free ticket, plus $1,750 toward travel and hotel. From the founders of Shoptalk and Groceryshop, it's three days fully outdoors in Huntington Beach, September 22 to 24, with 2,000 senior leaders working through how AI is transforming retail. If you're shaping AI's future in retail, budget shouldn't be why you miss it. Register by August 28 at https://retailclub.com/retail-razor-podcast

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About Our Guest
Julie Averill, https://www.linkedin.com/in/julieaverill/
Author, Chief Impact Officer, https://goldthreadllc.com/book/

As Chief Information Officer of lululemon, Julie Averill led the technology transformation that scaled the company from $2 billion to over $10 billion in revenue while building global teams capable of sustaining that growth. Prior to lululemon, she led omni-channel and digital transformations at Nordstrom and REI, navigating system failures, high-stakes crises, and the complicated work of integrating technology with business strategy at scale. Today, she advises boards, CEOs, and founders at the intersection of AI capability and organizational readiness and serves as Independent Director at multiple companies. She lives in Bellevue, Washington, with her wife Cindy.

In her book, Chief Impact Officer (8080 Books, June 16th, 2026) Julie unpacks where so many are going wrong– it isn’t about hiring the one person who knows the model of the moment. It’s about hiring leaders who can connect emerging technology to business outcomes, are humble enough to keep learning, and confident enough to own results.

Connect with Julie on LinkedIn or at [email protected]. Get the book, available now.

Chapters

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:52) Show Intro

(00:05:28) Welcome Julie Averill!

(00:07:11) Lululemon Site Meltdown

(00:10:48) Restoring Ownership and Cloud

(00:12:09) Catcher Crouch Leadership

(00:16:28) Hypergrowth and Saying No

(00:21:17) Building Inclusion in Bangalore

(00:24:54) Unified Data Foundation Reality

(00:27:35) Legacy Stacks vs Greenfield Rivals

(00:29:32) Real Time Is Table Stakes

(00:31:43) Flattening For Faster Decisions

(00:34:31) Merchandising Demo Reality Check

(00:37:54) AI Change Management Honesty

(00:42:27) Spin Trust And Layoffs

(00:45:22) Clean Sheet Reinvention

(00:47:31) Make Yourself Unnecessary

(00:50:35) Who Am I Without A Logo

(00:55:58) AI Is Not The Point

(00:58:43) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E5 The voice of the frontline reveals the truth about 80% retail turnover, and what corporate keeps missing about stores
 
What corporate keeps getting wrong about the store floor, told by someone who actually ran it. In this episode of Retail Transformers, Ricardo Belmar and Casey Golden sit down with Kit Campoy, a 25-year retail store leader, author of The Retail Leader's Field Guide, and the writer known across the industry as the Voice of the Frontline from her Substack newsletter. Kit has managed store teams at PacSun, Lucky Brand, Anthropologie, Tilly's, Old Navy, and Buckle, and today she helps retail tech and SaaS companies actually speak the same language as the store managers they are trying to sell to.

The conversation goes straight into the HQ-to-store disconnect that quietly costs retailers millions: the rollouts that look great in a boardroom and fall apart on a Saturday afternoon, the metrics that distort behavior on the sales floor, and the retail tech pitches that insult store managers on slide two. Kit walks through what 80% retail turnover actually feels like inside a store, why store manager pay has stopped covering rent, and the invisible work that makes a store team function or fall apart.

If you build retail tech, lead a retail brand, or sit somewhere between corporate and the store floor, this conversation will change how you think about the frontline.

What You'll Learn in This Episode
·       Why "welcome in" is a confession, not a greeting
·       The corporate retail blind spots Kit sees on every store visit
·       What store managers would say out loud if there was zero career risk
·       How siloed HQ teams pile five priorities into one impossible week
·       The metrics distorting behavior on the sales floor (yes, including the manager who yelled at her own family for hurting her conversion rate)
·       The 20 jobs hiding inside the store manager job title
·       How to tell the difference between an underperforming store team and one that is just overwhelmed
·       The payroll game store managers play just to staff the floor
·       Why 80% retail turnover is something companies built, not something that happened to them
·       What store manager pay is really telling people about how much the role is valued
·       What Gen Z sees through instantly, and what brands keep getting wrong with them
·       The one thing every retail executive should do this quarter to support frontline teams

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About Our Guest
Kit Campoy, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kit-campoy-you-got-this/
https://kitcampoy.com
Author, “The Retail Leader's Field Guide”. https://a.co/d/0cEHP1Xv
Substack. The Voice of the Frontline, https://kitcampoy.substack.com
Kit Campoy spent 25 years on a retail floor, then wrote the book, The Retail Leader's Field Guide. She now publishes The Voice of the Frontline on Substack. Her key message: frontline teams are the most undervalued assets in retail. Her work gives store operators the language and respect they deserve.

Chapters

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:01:01) Show Intro

(00:05:44) Welcome Kit Campoy!

(00:07:14) Kit's Retail Journey

(00:10:31) Corporate Blind Spots

(00:14:58) What Managers Fear Saying

(00:21:23) Bad HQ Decisions

(00:27:14) Metrics Gone Wrong

(00:33:33) Store Manager Many Hats

(00:38:54) Empathy Builds Teams

(00:42:17) Gaming Payroll To Survive

(00:46:55) Turnover Never Lets Up

(00:49:52) Pay And Talent Retention

(00:55:45) Why Great Managers Leave

(00:59:57) Gen Z Sees Through Brands

(01:02:16) Reality Check And Thanks

(01:05:35) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E4 Agentic Commerce Is Here: Scot Wingo on How AI Agents Are Rewriting the Rules of Retail
 
What happens when your next customer never visits your website because their AI agent already bought what they needed? And what does it mean for your brand when your product catalog is essentially invisible to the AI doing the shopping?
 
In this episode of Retail Transformers, Ricardo and Casey sit down with Scot Wingo — e-commerce legend, co-host of the iconic Jason and Scot Show, host of the Retailgentic podcast and newsletter, and CEO of ReFiBuy — to unpack the rise of agentic commerce and what it means for every retailer, brand, and operator in the industry today.

From founding ChannelAdvisor in 2001 and taking it public in 2013, to launching ReFiBuy to tackle the AI commerce frontier, Scot has been at the center of every major e-commerce wave. Now, he believes agentic commerce — the shift to AI-powered shopping agents that handle the entire research, find, and buy journey — is the biggest transformation yet. And unlike the marketplace era, this one is moving fast.

What You'll Learn in This Episode
•       What agentic commerce actually is, and how to define it before the buzzword fog sets in
•       Why Scot believes agentic commerce will re-accelerate e-commerce growth and challenge Amazon's dominance
•       The 'Research-Find-Buy' (ReFiBuy) framework and which shopping categories are ripe for AI agent takeover
•       What OpenAI's Instant Checkout experiment got right, and the critical things it missed
•       Why the merchant of record breakthrough changes everything for brand relationships and loyalty programs
•       How Google's Universal Checkout Protocol (UCP) and identity linking could reinvent retail loyalty
•       Which retailers are leading the agentic commerce charge right now (Sephora, Ulta, Gap, and more)
•       Why product catalog optimization is the #1 thing retailers need to fix before AI agents make it irrelevant
•       The concept of 'keyword jail' and why your current catalog strategy was built for a world that no longer exists
•       Scot's bold holiday 2025 prediction: agentic commerce could touch 10% of transactions by year-end

Support our sponsors:
This Episode is Brought to You By RetailClub.
Join 2,000 retail leaders at RetailClub AI Festival, September 22–24 in Huntington Beach. Dive deep into how AI is reshaping retail while soaking up the sun at a fully outdoor, beachside venue. Decision-makers from retailers and brands can attend with free tickets and up to $1,250 in travel reimbursement. Head to retailclub.com to learn more. https://retailclub.com/retail-razor-podcast

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About Our Guest
Scot Wingo, Agentic CEO. ReFiBuy. https://refibuy.ai
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thescotwingo/
Retailgentic newsletter. https://www.retailgentic.com
Retailgentic podcast. https://retailgentic.transistor.fm
The Jason & Scot Show podcast. https://retailgeek.com/jason-scot-show/
Scot Wingo, is a 5-time serial entrepreneur having started five companies: Stingray Software, AuctionRover, ChannelAdvisor/Rithum, Spiffy and ReFiBuy.  Scot also co-hosts a top ecommerce podcast with Publicis' Chief Commerce Officer, Jason Goldberg (Jason and Scot Show) and his new podcast and substack is Retailgentic where he discusses the latest Agentic Commerce trends.

Chapters

(00:00:00) Teaser - What if your customer's AI agent shops without them?

(00:00:50) Show Intro & Retail Razor Podcast Network news — Goodpods top charts domination

(00:07:51) Welcome, Scot Wingo!

(00:09:27) ChannelAdvisor Origins - from eBay auctions to Amazon marketplace innovation

(00:13:51) How AI agents solved ChannelAdvisor's most expensive manual problem — catalog mapping

(00:17:27) Why Scot started ReFiBuy: the Research-Find-Buy compression thesis

(00:19:41) The podcasting origin story: Jason and Scot Show and the Retailgentic podcast

(00:23:07) Defining agentic commerce — is it a sales channel, a buzzword, or both?

(00:26:44) Amazon Rufus And Ad Load - Is it real or too much?

(00:29:33) OpenAI Instant Checkout: what it got right, what it missed, and what comes next

(00:31:11) The merchant of record breakthrough and why it matters more than it sounds

(00:40:35) Answering the naysayers: is agentic commerce just AI hype?

(00:52:47) Identity linking, loyalty programs, and how Google UCP changes the game

(00:55:25) Retailer FAQs, misconceptions, and the product catalog wake-up call

(01:00:31) Scot's holiday 2025 prediction: agentic commerce hits 10% of transactions

(01:02:38) Show Close - Subscribe & Follow!

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E3 Primark’s US Expansion: How Style, Quality & Affordability Are Rewriting the Rules of Retail
 
In this episode of the Retail Transformers Podcast, we sit down with Rene Federico, the US Head of Marketing for Primark, for a deep dive into Primark’s US expansion, the brand’s bold growth strategy, and why the in‑store retail experience remains the most powerful engine for customer connection.

Primark has been a global powerhouse for more than 50 years - but in the US, the brand is still in the early chapters of its growth story. Rene shares how Primark is building cultural relevance, scaling with intention, and staying true to its core promise of style, quality, and affordability without compromise.

We explore how the shift from creative‑led to growth‑led marketing is reshaping the industry, how the creator economy influences modern retail, and why in‑store retail experience is still the ultimate differentiator in a world obsessed with clicks. From the new Herald Square, New York City flagship, to the immersive Primark Studio in NoHo, Rene breaks down how Primark is designing experiences that inspire, delight, and drive footfall in stores.
 
What We Cover

• How Primark approaches US market growth
• Why in‑store retail experience drives long‑term loyalty
• The shift from creative‑led to growth‑led marketing
• How Primark balances style, quality, and affordability
• The role of the creator economy in modern retail
• The strategy behind the Herald Square flagship
• How the Primark Studio builds deeper brand storytelling
• The biggest mistakes brands make when scaling globally

Why This Episode Matters
If you want to understand Primark’s US expansion, how global brands scale successfully, and why physical retail is more relevant than ever, this episode delivers the insights you’ve been waiting for.

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About Our Guest
Rene Federico. https://www.linkedin.com/in/renefederico/
US Head of Marketing. Primark. https://www.primark.com/en-us
Rene is the head of marketing for Primark in the US, where she leads the development and execution of Primark’s end-to-end marketing strategy, ensuring consistent alignment of the brand’s strategy and values across all channels. With a roadmap to grow Primark’s US footprint, Rene and her team will lead Primark through the expansion of its brand exposure nationally and locally. To kick off her new appointment, her team developed and launched Primark's first US brand campaign, That's So Primark, to build further awareness of the brand's value, quality and style proposition to savvy American shoppers looking to fall in love with their closet over and over again. She has a deep understanding of brand dynamics and consumer engagement from working with global brands and marketplaces. With more than 20 years at Nike, Rene started in retail sales followed by roles across visual merchandising, retail marketing and brand marketing. Most recently, she joined Primark from Converse (a wholly owned Nike subsidiary) as the VP, Global Direct Marketing, where she led the global brand experience, global social media and global direct to consumer marketing strategy.

About Primark
To help shoppers find what they're looking for, Primark's website allows customers to browse its product offerings and check which products are available in their local store. Visit: www.primark.com. Shoppers can also sign up here to get email updates on Primark's latest product drops, style inspiration, store opening dates, and more.

Chapters

(00:00) Teaser

(00:57) Show Intro

(04:31) Welcome Rene Federico!

(04:52) Rene’s Retail Journey to Primark

(07:11) Marketing Shifts Today

(10:29) Primark’s US Growth Role

(12:50) Marketing for Footfall

(17:24) The Design - Value - Quality Balance

(21:07) NYC Studio and Flagship

(26:44) How Brands Make Mistakes Scaling Globally

(31:43) Brand Health and Funnel Bets

(37:06) AI Agents and Future Retail

(41:02) Agility as Your Edge

(42:51) Wrap Up and Thanks

(44:05) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E2 Your Strategy Isn’t Failing - Your Execution Is. Here’s How to Fix It.
 
Most strategies don’t fail in the boardroom - they fail in the real world. In this episode of Retail Transformers, Ricardo and Casey sit down with Kevin Ertell, longtime retail operator and author of The Strategy Trap: Why Companies Fail at Execution and How to Get It Right. Kevin shares why 67% of well‑crafted strategies fail, the early warning signs leaders miss, and how his Six Cs framework helps teams turn strategy into real‑world results.

As Kevin explains, “Most strategies fail later, not loudly” - and the root cause is almost always poor execution, not bad ideas. Drawing from 30+ years at Nike, Sur La Table, Borders, and Tower Records, plus interviews with 60+ operators, Kevin breaks down how leaders can avoid the strategy trap and build strategies that humans can actually execute.

What We Cover

• Why most strategies fail in execution, not planning
• The Strategy Trap: what it is and how to avoid it
• The Six Cs framework: Co‑creation, Clarity, Capacity, Communication, Coordination, Coaching
• Why co‑creation is essential for execution success
• The “tree stump theory” and how blind spots derail execution
• Why leaders must “slow down to speed up”
• How culture, incentives, and communication shape execution
• Real‑world examples from Nike, Borders, and more

 
Why This Episode Matters
If you’re launching a new strategy this year. Or wondering why the last one didn’t land. This conversation gives you the tools, frameworks, and mindset to execute with confidence.

Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to The Retail Razor: Retail Transformers for more episodes featuring retail innovators, disruptors, and bold thinkers reshaping commerce.

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About Our Guest
Kevin Ertell, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinertell/
Author, The Strategy Trap: Why Companies Fail at Execution and How to Get It Right. https://a.co/d/04AqxywE
Founder & CEO, Mistere Advisory. https://www.mistereadvisory.com
 
Kevin Ertell is a veteran executive and trusted advisor with more than 30 years of experience leading transformations at brands like Nike, Tower Records, and Sur La Table. As founder and CEO of Mistere Advisory, he helps companies of all sizes bring clarity, alignment, and action to their strategies. Known for his straight talk, practical insight, and ability to cut through complexity, Kevin draws on deep experience across leadership, operations, and digital growth to help teams turn ideas into results. When he’s not helping companies get unstuck, he’s likely playing bass, cooking for family, or following Cleveland sports with stubborn optimism.

Chapters

(00:00) Preview Teaser

(01:22) Show Intro

(04:21) Welcome Kevin Ertell to the Retail Transformers Podcast

(07:54) The Strategy Trap: An Introduction

(10:15) Common Pitfalls in Strategy Execution

(11:53) Techniques for Successful Execution

(14:58) The Six Cs Framework

(24:13) The Importance of Co-Creation, Clarity, and Capacity

(25:29) Showtime: Communication, Coordination, and Coaching

(26:31) Coaching as a Leadership Tool

(27:30) Real-World Example: Borders Rewards Program

(30:56) Key Decisions Before Strategy Kickoff

(32:41) Slowing Down to Speed Up

(37:23) The Role of Company Culture

(39:03) AI in Strategy Execution

(41:41) Conclusion and Final Thoughts

(44:08) Show Close

Meet Your Hosts
Helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Episode Music

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.

S2E1 Ulta Beauty’s $2B Digital Transformation: Michelle Pacynski Reveals the Retail Innovation Playbook
 
In this season‑opening episode of The Retail Razor: Retail Transformers, Ricardo and Casey sit down with Michelle Pacynski, former VP of Innovation and Consumer Technology at Ulta Beauty, to unpack one of the most compelling retail transformation journeys in modern retail.
 
Michelle shares how Ulta scaled its digital business from $125M to over $2B, built a mobile‑first strategy before the rest of the industry caught up, and created an innovation team that ultimately became the company’s AI Center of Excellence.
 
This conversation is a masterclass in retail transformation and innovation, AI adoption, startup collaboration, and the leadership mindset required to build what’s next.
   
What We Cover:

• How Ulta built a mobile‑first digital experience before it was mainstream
• Why infrastructure, fulfillment, and omnichannel foundations matter more than hype
• The real story behind GlamLab, virtual try‑on, and beauty tech adoption
• How to evaluate retail tech startups and build a risk‑reward experimentation model
• Why innovation teams should sit inside the business, not IT
• The future of search, video commerce, and agentic AI in retail
• Why retailers must embrace experimentation to stay competitive
• The mindset shift leaders need to drive meaningful retail transformation

Why This Episode Matters
If you care about the future of retail transformation, leadership, startup innovation, and agentic AI in the beauty industry, this is an essential listen.
 

Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to The Retail Razor: Retail Transformers for more episodes featuring retail innovators, disruptors, and bold thinkers reshaping commerce.

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Guest info:
Michelle Pacynski, Senior Digital Executive | Digital Transformation | Futurist | Innovation | Board Member | Strategic Advisor. https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-pacynski/
A high performing, visionary leader, Michelle Pacynski shapes – and reshapes – the retail industry with leading innovations and designing new ways to discover and shop. For over six years, she founded and led a team of global digital innovators, overseeing work that connects digital and physical shopping journeys with leading technology to create differentiated, relevant guest experiences. She also championed the creation of a corporate venture fund, Prisma Ventures (™) to accelerate innovation by forming strategic partnerships with the startup community. She’s currently a strategic advisor for several tech startups and while overseeing Prisma Ventures (™) she deployed over 50% of the $20M fund to some 12 early-stage startups over 3 years.


Recently named one of the Top 25 Leaders to Watch in 2025 by CommerceNext, Michelle is currently a Strategic Advisor with iVantedge Advisors, LLC a company she founded specializing in guiding innovative technology startups through pivotal growth stages. She helps tech founders navigate complex challenges, drive product-market fit, and positions them for long-term success in dynamic, fast-paced markets.

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Preview Teaser

(00:00:38) Show Intro

(00:04:19) Introduction and Welcome Michelle Pacynski

(00:05:05) Michelle's Retail Journey

(00:06:15) Transforming Ulta's Digital Business

(00:09:29) Mobile First Strategy

(00:12:25) Building a Native App

(00:15:00) Innovation and Experimentation

(00:29:53) Virtual Try-On and Gamification

(00:34:54) Challenges in Retail Tech

(00:39:13) Strategic Partnerships and Innovation

(00:40:43) Experimentation and Quick Wins

(00:43:59) Future of Retail Innovation

(00:45:13) Interactive Commerce and Video

(00:49:26) Heads-Up Displays and AR

(00:52:34) AI and Practical Applications

(00:59:33) Recognition and Personal Reflections

(01:02:50) Mindset Shifts for Retailers

(01:04:51) Closing Thoughts and Contact Information

(01:07:15) Show Close

Meet your hosts, helping you stay sharp, be bold, and transform retail:

Ricardo Belmar is an NRF Top Retail Voice for 2025 and a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2021 – 2026. Thinkers 360 has named him a Top 10 Thought Leader in Retail, a Top 25 Thought Leader in AGI and Careers, a Top 50 Thought Leader in Agentic AIand Management, and a Top 100 Thought Leader in Digital Transformation and Transformation. Thinkers 360 also named him a Top Digital Voice for 2024 and 2025. He is an advisory council member at George Mason University’s Center for Retail Transformationand the Retail Cloud Alliance. He was most recently the partner marketing leader for retail & consumer goods in the Americas at Microsoft.

Casey Golden, is the North America Leader for Retail & Consumer Goods at CI&T, and CEO of Luxlock. She is a RETHINK Retail Top Retail Expert from 2023 - 2026, and Retail Cloud Alliance advisory council member. After a career on the fashion and supply chain technology side of the business, Casey is obsessed with the customer relationship between the brand and the consumer and is slaying franken-stacks and building retail tech! 

Includes music provided by imunobeats.com, featuring Tropikool, from the album Future Beats 2, plus Virtual Apology and New Styles, from the album Shimmer Pop, written by Heston Mimms, published by Imuno.