We've been looking at the possibility of the #UMC separation from a number of angles. In this episode, we talk with progressive pastor Darren Cushman Wood. Rev. Wood is one of the authors of the Indianapolis Plan, and he shares his thoughts about the separation protocol, the delay of General Conference, and his aspiration and hopes for a new progressive Methodist denomination. Rev. Wood's latest book is The Secret Transcript of the Council of Bishops: A Dialogue on Homosexuality and Church Unity.