On this special episode of the Rodeo Labs Podcast, we sat down with Jacqueline Claudia and Michael White of the White Line Foundation to discuss how the organization has been championing key policy on the federal and state levels. Claudia is the Executive Director of the White Line, while White is the co-founder and the father of Magnus White, whose death in Boulder County in 2023 was the catalyst for the organization.

In our conversation with Claudia and White, we focused on the major policy goals the White Line has been pushing at the federal and local levels that could have clear positive safety outcomes. HR 7353 is the proposed bill that the White Line has sponsored which amends existing federal regulations on Automatic Emergency Braking systems to mandate that all new vehicles have the capacity to detect vulnerable road users by September 2029. While this is a specific policy goal, it is the key culmination of a long, tragic process that began in August 2023 after a driver in Boulder County killed Magnus White. This policy would have prevented that fatal crash and has the capacity to alter the outcome of many future parallel path crashes.

Additionally, the organization is advocating for a law in the Colorado state legislature, known as SB26-132, or Magnus’ Law, which requires law enforcement to conduct an impairment test at every fatal or serious injury crash in the state. That state bill was introduced on Friday, February 27. That bill will be heard in the Colorado State Senate Judiciary Committee on March 9th, where the next steps of the bill will be decided. The key time crunch is getting the bill through the state senate by mid-May. If it succeeds, it could be implemented in August of this year.

If you are interested in engaging with the letter-writing tool that we discussed in the podcast, you can visit it here.

If you want to learn more about the White Line or stay informed about what the organization will do next, you can follow along on their Instagram, here.

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guests: Jacqueline Claudia and Michael White

Editor and producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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After spending a few thousand miles on the new Shimano GRX/XTR Di2 mullet (yep, flows right off the tongue), Drew Van Kampen and Logan Jones-Wilkins dig deep into their feelings, sensations, and opinions around the new electronic offering from the Japanese component giant.

In line with their reviews of the SRAM XPLR update, a detailed look at the TRP Vistar/Classified groupset, and hopefully more reviews to come, Drew and Logan looked at the groupset from a few different perspectives. This time, both also made some big claims on how it all stacks up against other groupsets, a small tangent into crank lengths and power meters, and one (1) small rant on the pursuit of 13 speeds.

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guest: Drew Van Kampen

Editor and producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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Welcome back to the Rodeo Labs Podcast and our annual Four Favorite Things episode. We got Drew, Stephen, Logan, and Cullen Perkey, a new member of the round table of bike geeks, on the show to discuss their four favorite bike things they used this past year.

From bottom brackets to shifters, mountain bike pants, and insulated bottles, we went wide and weird with it, but everything had a good explanation and a bit of banter. Here is the full list of components we highlighted:

• Components: XTR Di2 Rear Mech, SRAM Rival shifters, Wolf Tooth Bottom Bracket, and the Garbaruck 13s SRAM XPLR cassette.
• Tires: Vittoria Peyote 2.25 race, Peyote 2.1 trail, Vittoria Terreno Pro T30, and Seal-It sealant.
• Clothing and Accessories: Specialized Prime Bib Shorts, RDO Lab Explorts 3.0, Patagonia Dirt Craft Pants, and the Elite Ice Fly insulated bottle.
• Misc. Value Add: King Cage Stainless Steel Cage, Crank Brothers Candy Lace Clip-in Shoes, Shokz Openrun Pro open ear headphones, and the BBB CoreCap. 

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guests: Stephen Fitzgerald, Drew Van Kampen, Cullen Perkey

Editor and Producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Executive Producer: Stephen Fitzgerald

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Success, we are learning, comes in many forms. At Rodeo this year, we've had a successful year – by some metrics, it's been our best year – but from another perspective, it has been a year of immense challenge. Those challenges have extended all the way to the holidays, with new hurdles around every curve.

Yet, as we tend to do, we are set on taking the wins and losses in stride as we flip the page to 2026. To process the past year, both for Rodeo Labs and our host, Logan, who is going on a parallel odyssey of his own, we talked about it here on this podcast episode.

Lastly, thank you for your support this year. We have enjoyed slowly building this podcast up, and we plan to continue with pace in 2026!

Hosts: Logan Jones-Wilkins and Stephen Fitzgerald

Editor and producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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Cyclo-cross has never not been a part of the Rodeo story, even if it hasn't been front and center. For a company that doesn't not make cyclo-cross-capable bikes, all these double negatives leave us pondering the sport every time we hear #crossiscoming. This year, Stephen answered the call of cyclo-cross, and so too did Cam Little, a Rodeo rider from West Virginia and Marian University.

Now that the season has wrapped up, it was time to podcast about it, even if Logan, our host, is somewhat of a cyclo-cross skeptic.

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guests: Stephen Fitzgerald and Cameron Little

Editor and Producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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What even is a road bike? We investigate with Tyler Simon, an engineer, cyclist, and the mind behind the most road-optimized Rodeo Trail Donkey we have ever been a part of. Plus, Stephen and Logan get into the question of all-road bikes and why Logan is all over this new cycling trend.

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guests: Tyler Simon and Stephen Fitzgerald

Editor and producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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It is finally time to talk big tires.

The subject is all the rage these days, but we've been here for a while – riding our thick gravel tires on rigid drop bar bikes for years. Nevertheless, we are intrigued by a lot of what is coming to the discourse, especially some of the quantitative testing we are seeing from certain corners of the internet. Most notably, John Karrasch, a.k.a @flexfitbyjohn on Instagram.

The bike fitter, a turned-off-road rolling resistance guru, has refined a form of the Chung method for testing to objectively measure the rolling resistance of countless tires, posting comprehensible graphs that demonstrate the comparative value of each. Karrasch also has a Patreon where he goes deeper into the data and breaks down the nuances of the different traits of the tires he tests.

Now, he is a niche-expert who has become a legend in the small corner of the internet that is interested in going fast on gravel. He is also a frequent pen pal with the Rodeo Labs crew, so we had to have him on the podcast to really get into the nitty-gritty details.

If you want to learn more about John's testing, check out his Patreon account here.

Logan has also written some pretty detailed stories on the subject. Here is a story he did for Cycling Weekly on some of his favorite options.

Hosts: Logan Jones-Wilkins, Drew Van Kampen, Stephen Fitzgerald

Guest: John Karrasch

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When Dave Pryor started UnPAved of the Susquehanna in 2018, gravel cycling was crystallizing into a discipline in cycling. It was reserved for the real hipsters, early movers, and the dreamers. Since then, gravel has changed, as has UnPAved. Now, the race is part of Pryor's full-time job, an institution in Pennsylvania cycling, and also unique in the landscape of gravel cycling.

In our most recent mini-episode on our Rodeo riders, we spoke to Pryor to learn more about a few things. Mostly, we chatted about the power of Pennsylvania's vast gravel goods, the strange place gravel racing holds on the East Coast, and what gravel means to him and his Flaanimal.

Enjoy!

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guest: Dave Pryor

Producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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Suspension forks on gravel bikes is a dividing line in the cycling world. For many, they are a tool that expands the use of the bike and reduces the stress associated with the rugged terrain that gravel biking revolves around. Others dismiss the tech as reinventing mountain bikes from the 1990s. 

We’ve been wanting to dig into this topic for a while because Rodeo Labs bikes could be well-suited for a little suspension, if that is your thing. This summer, Logan finally got enough time on two different fork options to investigate the strengths and weaknesses of gravel suspension. Stephen, who has been trying suspension forks for the last year, joined in on the podcast to add his two cents. Nevertheless, we wanted this podcast to be more than simply Stephen and Logan breaking down their experiences. So, we called up Will Hart, the product marketing manager at Cane Creek, to get into the gritty details of their Invert gravel fork and muse on the philosophy behind building specific gravel tech. 

If you are interested in investigating this further, Logan tested the Cane Creek Invert SL and the Rock Shox Rudy Ultimate XPLR. Both options had 30mm of travel, with the Rock Shox priced at $929 compared to the Cane Creek Invert SL at $1,099. Stephen tested the Cane Creek Invert CS and Fox 32 TC – Grip SL. Both forks had 40mm of travel, with the Fox priced at $999 and the Cane Creek at $1,199. 

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins and Stephen Fitzgerald 

Guest: Will Hart 

Producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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At Rodeo Adventure Labs, adventure is in the name of our company, so our side quests are quite crucial to what we do. These quests have shifted over the years – from Silverton, to Florida, and recently to the Dolomites – but the goal behind the travel has remained the same: bring people together to ride bikes in great places. 

In this episode of the Rodeo Labs Podcast, Drew, Stephen, and Logan delve into the traveling Rodeo has undertaken, both locally and abroad. Where have we gone, what have we learned, and why does it mean so much independent of economic returns? 

Lastly, Drew and Stephen break down the most recent trip to the Dolomites and explain why Italy’s northeast might be a Trail Donkey “Dreamland.”

Host: Logan Jones-Wilkins

Guests: Drew van Kampen and Stephen Fitzgerald 

Producer: Logan Jones-Wilkins

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