The Ruins

EPISODE 25

Today, we're talking about a little shift happening on the Kings and Queens podcast! Tune in to hear more!

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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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EPISODE 24

Today, we are joined by the amazing Irene Cho to talk about her experience in Youth Ministry and how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of toxic theology and abusive patterns of discipleship with our young people and move into liberating, inclusive, and empowering spaces of hope and love. This is SUCH a helpful episode, specifically for those who are currently working with young people. Don't miss it!

SHOW NOTES

The In Between

Irene Cho Twitter | Instagram | Facebook

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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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EPISODE 23

I am joined by my friend Kyle Cryan to talk about his experience in Bible college and the way he’s using his social media to give voice to those who’ve experienced harassment, discrimination, and abuse at Clarks Summit University. We’ll also talk about empathy and how film and art help us learn the heart of God for ourselves and others.

SHOW NOTES

#BSConfessional

REAP LGBTQ+

The Critical Millennial 

Kyle's Instagram

Kyle's Twitter

ABOUT

Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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EPISODE 22

Nicole and I share our story of spiritual abuse in Vancouver, Canada. If you have or are going through abuse of any kind, specifically in the church, know that we love you, you are not alone, and there is hope. The journey towards healing can be daunting, but we would love to be a friend and help you begin or continue that journey. Please feel free to reach out to us at: [email protected]. 

SHOW NOTES

Emotionally Healthy Discipleship

Transitions Podcast Episode

Our Move to Spokane Podcast Episode

Strahan Coleman (Prayer Course)

ABOUT

Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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New Community Church

EPISODE 21

We are joined by an incredible friend, pharmacist, and low-key pastor, Dr. Eva Oriakhi, to talk about her experience in and around white evangelicalism, and how she helped lead a Coalition of Racial Justice in Portland, Oregon. We’ll also hear her thoughts on how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of white supremacy, patriarchy, and oppression, and into spaces of liberation, inclusion, and love.

SHOW NOTES

Dr. Eva's Instagram

Coalition for Racial Justice

ABOUT

Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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New Community Church

Kings and Queens Podcast

EPISODE 20

I had the opportunity to sit down with filmmaker, father-to-be, and former XXX Church employee, PJ Gal-Szabo, to have a conversation about the harmful and toxic narratives of purity culture. This was a really healing and restorative conversation for both of us and PJ has so much wisdom and insight to offer throughout the episode. 

Note: This is a very honest and vulnerable conversation around some pretty sensitive issues. So for those of you who have trauma around purity culture, be advised and please listen with discretion.

SHOW NOTES

PJ's Twitter

PJ's Instagram

Vimeo.com/psz

ABOUT

Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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New Community Church

Kings and Queens Podcast

EPISODE 19

I recently got the chance to sit down with the incredible Darren Calhoun to talk about the recent Montero (Call Me By Your Name) music video by Lil Nas X that is making white evangelicals SO MAD, and hear his thoughts on how the future of the church can be one of liberation, inclusion, freedom, and celebration.

SHOW NOTES

DarrenCalhoun.com

TheManyAreHere.com

Love Greater than Fear by The Many

The Trevor Project (suicide prevention and LGBTQ youth resource)

A resource from Q Christian Fellowship on conversion/change efforts and their harm

Darren's Twitter

Darren's IG

ABOUT

Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

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New Community Church

Kings and Queens Podcast

In our 18th episode, we’re talking about a few of the non-profits and partnerships that we support and are involved with here in Spokane. Since we are bivocational (only work at a church part time), we raise support to supplement our income. We thought we'd give our listeners a little glimpse into our vision for support raising and some of the organizations we love to partner with in our city.

SHOW NOTES

YWCA Spokane:

The Black Lens:

NAACP Spokane 

NAOMI 

Shalom Ministries

Lumen 

90+ 

Feast

Rakab

Knight Lights  

ABOUT

Joseph, Nicole, Haddon, and Ivy are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit our website.

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Kings and Queens Podcast

Instagram

New Community Church

In our 17th episode, we’re talking about grief in death, joy in celebration, and the importance of the work of racial justice. This episode was recorded in response to the recent passing of our Grammy Mavis. We love you, Grammy!!

ABOUT

Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning to embody the love of Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us or find more info about our story, visit our website.

Patreon

Nicole's Instagram

New Community Church

In our 16th episode, we’re talking about how our power and privilege can often lead to toxic theology and bad Bible reading. We'll look at how Jesus leveraged his power and privilege for the inclusion, affirmation, freedom, healing, salvation, and liberation for the people who were most marginalized, oppressed, abused, and rejected by society. Joseph shares a little bit about his journey with toxic theology and offers a few questions for those who might still currently hold to various forms of toxic theology, doctrine, or hermeneutics. 

SHOW NOTES

Jo Luehmann Twitter

Jo Luehmann Instagram

Jo Luehmann Resources/Patreon

About us: Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning to embody the love of Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us or find more info about our story, visit our website.

Patreon

Nicole's Instagram

Joseph's Twitter

New Community Church