The Same Boat

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined again by Jenn Hsu, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about different approaches to dating. Some of our talking points:

• "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Joshua Harris messed us up!
• You learn a lot about yourself when you're in a dating relationship
• The Chicken approach to dating vs The Eagle approach
• Do you have an off-ramp in your dating relationship?
• A successful relationship does not always end in marriage
• Sex has a way of masking true intimacy and character flaws
• Being desperate is not good for your evaluation skills
• We are complete as single people
• What do we look for when we are dating someone?
• Go to more Larping events

 

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

Drop us a line: [email protected]

 

Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

 

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

 

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

 

Mentioned in today's episode: "How to Get a Date Worth Keeping" by Henry Cloud

https://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Date-Worth-Keeping/dp/0310262658

 

 

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined by Jenn Hsu, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about same gender friendships from a straight perspective. Some of our talking points:

 

• Why are so many male friendships so superficial?
• The difficulty for men to be emotionally intelligent in marriage with limited emotional practice as a single
• What happens when we are not asked to be a bridesmaid?
• Does everyone have a bestie? Should everyone have a bestie? 
• Ways we feel prioritized in a friendship
• Things we look for in a friendship
• Friendship doom stories

 

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

 

Drop us a line: [email protected]

 

Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG

 

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

 

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

 

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

 

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined again by Hiroko Hsieh, continuing our series on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about toxic friendships.   Some of our talking points:

• Being lonely can make us make poor relationship choices
• Narcissism, Codependency, and Insecure Attachment
• Is there something about us that makes us stay in toxic friendships?
• Are Christians called to be close with everyone out of agape love?
• Asian collective and loyal culture makes it extra challenging to navigate toxic friendships
• Empathy and differentiation
• Concrete ideas about dealing with toxic friendships
• Jesus' modeling of Tiers of Friendship
• Resources for us to get better at navigating friendships

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.     Drop us a line: [email protected]     Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin     Hiroko Hsieh's website: www.restingsheep.com     Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827     Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim     Other podcasts:   SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]   New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang are joined by Hiroko Hsieh, continuing their series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about co-ed friendships from a straight perspective. This conversation was motivated by the controversy of Pastor Matt Chandler stepping down because of his communication with a female friend.   Some of our talking points:

• What do co-ed friendships provide that same gender friendships do not?
• What kinds of co-ed friendships are healthy when married, and what kinds are not?
• Are there unique rules for pastors and co-ed relationships because of the power and trust dynamic?
• Wilson and Hiroko's story of rich co-ed friendship
• Roy's story of betrayal due to co-ed friendship
• Co-ed friendship and sexual addiction

  As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.     Drop us a line: [email protected]       Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster] Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img] Music by Nathan Baldwin     Hiroko Hsieh's website: www.restingsheep.com     Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827     Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim     Other podcasts: SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]   New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]  

Roy Kim and Wilson Wang dive into a new series revolving around the topic of Relationships. In this episode, we talk about how lonely it can feel when we don't have significant relationships, whether they be romantic relationships or friendships.

 

Some of our talking points:

• We get why people talk to toys or imaginary friends.
• Being extremely popular and extremely lonely at the same time.
• The loneliness of pastoring.
• Escaping from loneliness through games and porn.
• What happens if all your friends are married/dating or don't have time for you?
• The heartache of being an older single and there's no natural "group" for you at church.
• What if your hobbies don’t align with the majority of your church people?
• What are strategies to make friends as adults?
• Do married people do things that are off-putting to singles?
• Dating and marriage does not cure loneliness.

 

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

Drop us a line: [email protected]

View the YouTube version: https://youtu.be/8F8DBX4Oh58

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim @thisisroykim

 

Asian American Christians have been leaving the immigrant church for various reasons, and one of the consequences is strong homesickness.

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim share some of their reflections about missing the immigrant church, despite all its flaws.

 

Some of their talking points include:

• Nostalgic and familiar Asian family dynamics at church
• The centrality of eating together at church
• Getting scolded at the immigrant church is normal, but getting scolded at a White church is grounds for a fist fight
• Pastoral visitations are so inefficient, but can feel so good!
• Obedience to a pastor who knows you vs obedience to a pastor on a screen; and more.

Plus, we answer listener questions such as: Is there a way to explain to people why you are leaving church, but without slandering?

 

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/z9-r2N6a09U

 

Drop us a line: [email protected]

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

One of the reasons why Asian American Christians have been leaving the immigrant church is because of their experiences of spiritual abuse.

Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their thoughts, experiences, and questions about spiritual abuse in the immigrant church.

Some of their talking points include:

• Getting fired in the immigrant church
• Boundary-less family style church life
• Parallels with domestic abuse
• Korean churches resembling military hierarchy
• Trying to remember an immigrant pastor giving a genuine apology
• Good and Bad ways to trust a pastor, and more.

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

Drop us a line: [email protected]

YouTube version: https://youtu.be/vuZWq-Nm7vg

 

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

A common experience for people in English speaking ministries (EM's) is feeling like they have no voice. They feel an innate pressure to comply with the immigrant church leadership, with little room for discussion.

 

What does it do to a person's psyche when you feel like your voice doesn't count, not just in a church context, but in any context for that matter?

 

Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their own EM experiences of having no voice, as well as their thoughts of the implications.

 

Some of their talking points include: invasion of privacy; protecting the pulpit from false doctrine; Korean Morning Prayer; when is it time to leave? is it grace to allow a congregation to collapse? and more.

 

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

 

You can watch the discussion here: https://youtu.be/xMhDuCDEKjo

Drop us a line: [email protected]

 

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com) You can listen to some of his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

English speaking ministries (EM's) and immigrant churches have had trouble finding ways to thrive together for various reasons. Many of these EM's have left the 1st generation churches, a trend that Helen Lee coined a "silent exodus."

 

Wilson Wang, Jenna Fu, and Roy Kim share some of their own EM experiences. They discuss mixed feelings such as "It's so nice to belong here with a village of aunties and uncles" as well as "How do we belong where there's so much condescension and heresy?" As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

You can also watch our conversation here: https://youtu.be/zHOemzExImc

 

Drop us a line: [email protected]

 

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com) You can listen to some of his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

 

 

A story about my wife, my stepdaughter, and the Lord God who wove us together. This episode bookends a beautiful season of stories and conversations about life behind the curtain. The things we don't post about. The things that drive us to isolation. The things that make us say "Thank God you said that" because we didn't want to say it first.

My deep heartfelt thanks to all those who have supported this podcast in various ways. It really is an honor to be in the same boat as you. I hope you will continue to show your support as the same boat sets sail in season two ⛵️

** Make sure to listen to the very end. You never know, there might be some jokes told by a 10 1/2 year old ...

 

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