What was it about this novel by Robert Harris that made it so ripe for an award-winning adaptation? In episode 347, join writer Luke Elliott and filmmaker James Bailey as they wade into a papal political thriller about the flawed men who are vying for the office, recount their own spiritual deconstructions, reflect on growing up as Christians, discover an unfortunate Roman Polanski connection with the author, and react to a surprising twist they didn't see coming. Join them next week for their deep dive into the film by Edward Berger!

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