The Secret Podcast

Sarah and JVL spent the entire show talking about yesterday’s presidential immunity arguments before the Supreme Court. Their discussion will shock you: Sarah believes things will ultimately be okay while JVL has a darker view. It’s the twist you never saw coming . . .

Sarah was out of pocket and off the grid all week. JVL was doing his best work in Overtime. So they play a rapid-fire game of catch up on everything Sarah missed.

And then they do a Freaky Friday about humanity at the end. Weird show, good show.

Sarah and JVL talk about what Trump did to—or maybe revealed about?—the Republican party and the institutional version of the pro-life movement.

Plus: Was O.J. a proto-Trump figure?

On today's Secret Podcast, Tim and Sarah discuss new economic data, No Labels foregoing a third party ticket, and women’s basketball!

Listen and leave a comment.

Join Sarah, Tim and JVL for a live taping of their show The Next Level on May 1 in Philadelphia or May 15 in Washington, DC where they will be joined by George Conway.

Mona Charen is in for Sarah this week and she and JVL talk about why crazy is consolidating under the banner of MAGA, the politicization of the Baltimore bridge collapse, and why Ronna McDaniel is a symptom of everything that’s wrong with cable news.

It finally happened: Sarah broke JVL. They talk about the new polls in Pennsylvania and Michigan, a focus group with young progressives who love TikTok, Chris Christie’s No Labels flirtation, Judge Aileen Cannon—and it finally all becomes too much.

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Sarah and JVL go deep on the news from three of the four Trump trials. They unpack the latest No Labels flavor of the week. They wonder if RFK hurts Trump. And they get into the TikToks and the yutes.

After Biden’s SOTU performance, Sarah expected JVL to be insufferable and he did not disappoint. They talk about the speech, Katie Britt’s response, Katie Porter’s irresponsible concession, and some Beyoncé.

Real talk: This is a banger of a show.

Sarah and JVL start out talking about the contrast between Trump’s nonsensical racism and Biden’s dealmaking. Then they move on to gaming out what the next Republican leader in the Senate will have to say about Ukraine and the Supreme Court. Then there’s some Coen Brothers talk. Then they get into George Conway’s view of the January 6 case timeline.

It’s…

Sarah and JVL were together LIVE and in person! Giddy with the rush of human interaction, they talked about Chris Sununu’s latest prediction about the future of the Republican party, Nikki Haley’s claim that Biden is *more* dangerous than Trump, Alabama’s war on IVF, and Lara Trump’s loyalty oath.

Not going to lie: Possibly the best Secret pod, ever.