The Self-Leadership Lab

What if the problem isn’t your discipline, motivation, or leadership skills but what you’re building your life on?

In this powerful conversation, Bobby sits down with Jason Heinritz, founder of the Wake Up Jesus People movement, to explore the spiritual and physical foundations of true self-leadership.

Jason shares his personal journey from chasing titles, money, and success to surrender, peace, and purpose. Together, they unpack why so many high-performing leaders still feel empty, anxious, or burned out and how faith-anchored habits, morning routines, and community can completely transform your life.

This episode is for:

• Leaders who feel successful on paper but restless inside

• Men struggling with identity, purpose, or burnout

• Christians who feel stuck in “Sunday-only faith”

• Anyone searching for peace, discipline, and meaning in daily life

In this episode, we cover:

• Why most people are participating in faith, not committing to it

• The danger of tying your worth to titles, income, and performance

• How a “Sacred Start” can change your entire day

• Why discipline without faith eventually fails

• The biblical meaning of 40-day transformation

• How community accelerates growth and healing

• Why surrender often leads to greater success, not less

Jason also breaks down the 40 Forge Challenge, a faith-based framework combining prayer, Scripture, exercise, discipline, and identity work designed to help people experience real transformation in just 40 days.

This is not a sermon. This is a wake-up call.

If you’re ready to lead yourself better so you can lead others well, this episode is for you.

Jason’s Resources & Links

• Wake Up Jesus People: https://wakeupjesuspeople.com

• 40 Forge Challenge: https://40forge.com

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-r-heinritz/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonheinritz/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@heinritzjr28

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cutcojason

Bobby’s Resources & Links

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbAUhnH37eodhRKlVu7B--g

• Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

• LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b⁠

• Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

• Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

• Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

• Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

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Are you trying to become better by doing more but yet still feel stuck?

In this episode of Self-Leadership Lab, I sit down with Ryan Gottfredson, author of Becoming Better, to unpack a powerful (and often overlooked) truth:

Most people don’t stall because of a lack of effort but because they stop evolving internally.

We explore the difference between doing better and being better, why horizontal growth eventually hits a ceiling, and how vertical development changes the way we lead ourselves, our relationships, and our work.

This conversation goes beyond motivation and productivity into the internal operating system that drives behavior, mindset, emotional regulation, and leadership effectiveness.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• Why doing more often leads to burnout, frustration, and stagnation

• The difference between horizontal development (skills, credentials) and vertical development (inner growth)

• The Being vs. Doing framework and why most leadership development misses the mark

• Why 95% of people think they’re self-aware but only 10–15% actually are

• The three levels of adult development (Mind 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0) and where most leaders operate

• How self-protective mindsets quietly sabotage growth and leadership

• Why constructive criticism feels threatening—and how to rewire that response

• A live, real-time self-leadership exercise that exposes hidden internal blocks

• How purpose-driven leaders create environments where people actually grow

Key Takeaway

If your being hasn’t evolved, no amount of hustle, habits, or discipline will get you where you want to go.

Real growth starts when you stop asking: “What do I need to do next?” And start asking: “Who do I want to become?”

Connect with Ryan

Website: https://ryangottfredson.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryangottfredson/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryangottfredson/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ryangottfredsonphd

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RyanGottfredsonPhD/

X: https://x.com/RyanGottfredson

Connect With Bobby

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbAUhnH37eodhRKlVu7B--g

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b⁠

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

If this conversation helped you rethink your inner voice, hit Subscribe and turn on notifications. New episodes every week to help you lead yourself better.

Want to be a guest on The Self-Leadership Lab? Send Bobby Shelton a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/17641667851977069fa15a161

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Your inner voice can either build you or quietly destroy you. In this powerful conversation, motivational coach Brayden Black shares how self-leadership, awareness, and intentional thinking can completely change the course of your life.

In this episode, Bobby sits down with Brayden Black, a motivational speaker and vision & strategy coach, to unpack one of the most important (and overlooked) leadership skills: how you talk to yourself.

Brayden shares his personal journey from insecurity, self-doubt, and negative self-talk to confidence, clarity, and purpose. Together, we explore why most people don’t believe in themselves, how past experiences quietly shape our identity, and why learning to control your thoughts is foundational to self-leadership.

This conversation dives deep into:

• Why negative self-talk feels so convincing

• How self-esteem is rebuilt (not discovered overnight)

• Why writing things down changes how your brain works

• How to stop expecting the worst and start expecting the best

• The difference between knowing better and believing better

• Why hope is the foundation of personal growth and leadership

If you’ve ever felt stuck, unsure of yourself, or trapped by your own thoughts. This episode is for you.

Chapters

00:00 – Why your inner voice matters more than you think

02:10 – Brayden’s story: insecurity, self-esteem, and identity

06:45 – How coaching changed how Brayden saw himself

11:30 – Writing things down and rewiring belief

17:40 – Why we forget who we are

23:15 – Expecting the worst vs expecting the best

28:50 – How negative self-talk actually works

34:10 – Recognize → question → change your thoughts

40:25 – Why saying thoughts out loud is powerful

45:30 – Hope explained: “Has One Person Ever…”

49:20 – Final encouragement for anyone feeling stuck

Connect with Brayden

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_brayden.black?igsh=OTZ5ZXAyMzY3OWUw

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brayden-black-bb913534b

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenarrativeeffect

Connect With Bobby

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbAUhnH37eodhRKlVu7B--g

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b⁠

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

If this conversation helped you rethink your inner voice, hit Subscribe and turn on notifications. New episodes every week to help you lead yourself better

What do you see when you look in the mirror? Your appearance, or your leadership? High performers often look successful on paper while feeling disconnected inside.

In this powerful conversation, Bobby sits down with Jay Suggs, founder of Suggcess Consulting to explore why so many high-performing leaders feel disconnected, empty, or burned out even when everything “looks successful” on paper.

This episode challenges modern leadership norms and reframes leadership as an internal practice before an external role. We discuss why performance is borrowed energy, why alignment does the heavy lifting, and how leaders can stop managing metrics and start leading human beings, beginning with themselves.

If you’ve ever:

• Chased titles but felt unfulfilled

• Felt pressure to perform instead of lead

• Struggled with burnout, imposter syndrome, or misalignment

• Wondered whether leadership is costing you more than it’s giving

This conversation is for you.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• Why leadership is embodied, not performed

• How external validation erodes internal alignment

• The difference between managing people and leading humans

• Why leaders are often conflicted, not confused

• Why metrics without humanity destroy culture

• Mirror questions every leader should ask; but usually avoids

• How empathy, nervous system regulation, and self-leadership intersect

• Why alignment, not applause, creates lasting impact

The Core Question This Episode Asks

Do you want to make an impact, or do you want the applause?

If the applause stopped tomorrow…Would your leadership still make sense?

Who This Episode Is For

✔ Executives and senior leaders

✔ Entrepreneurs and founders

✔ Managers feeling burned out or misaligned

✔ Coaches, consultants, and facilitators

✔ Anyone serious about self-leadership

Connect with Jay

Website: https://iamjaysuggs.com/

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/iamjaysuggs

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamjaysuggs_/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Iamjaysuggs

Connect with Bobby:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbAUhnH37eodhRKlVu7B--g

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b⁠

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

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If you’ve ever ended the day exhausted, distracted, or disappointed in yourself — this conversation will change how you think forever. What if the most powerful leadership decision you make each day is simply deciding who you will be?

In this episode of Self-Leadership Lab, Bobby sits down with mindset coach, strategist, and bestselling author Bridget Hom to unpack why mindset is the root of performance, presence, and purpose and how most people unknowingly sabotage themselves through distraction, overwhelm, and negative self-talk.

This episode goes far beyond motivation. You’ll learn practical tools to shift your emotional state, regain focus, and show up well; even when life is chaotic.

You’ll discover:

• Why mindset is both the #1 problem and #1 solution

• The question “Who will I be today?” and why it changes everything

• How to instantly shift your emotional state using a simple brain-dump method

• Why distraction is silently destroying creativity, confidence, and fulfillment

• How to stop self-sabotage and start self-validating your progress

• The mindset difference between doing, being, and distracted living

• Why leading yourself well is the foundation of leading others

If you’re a leader, entrepreneur, parent, or professional who wants clarity, confidence, and control over your inner world, this episode is for you.

Listen now and decide who you will be today.

Connect with Bridget:

Website: http://stuckonready.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridget-hom-b55600192/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bridget_hom/

X: https://x.com/HomBridget

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bridgethom

Connect with Bobby:

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b⁠

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠ Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠ Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

Want to be a guest on The Self-Leadership Lab? Send Bobby Shelton a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/17641667851977069fa15a161

What if procrastination isn’t a discipline problem but a mindset signal?

In this powerful episode of The Self-Leadership Lab, Bobby sits down with mindset strategist and coach Lin Yuan-Su, who shares her deeply personal journey from a prestigious healthcare career to a life of purpose, freedom, and impact. Together, they unpack the hidden psychology behind procrastination, self-doubt, and overthinking and why true change starts with leading yourself first.

You’ll hear how leaving a “successful” career led to a spiritual awakening, why vision matters more than motivation, and how your subconscious thinking quietly shapes your reality. This conversation blends neuroscience, mindset work, entrepreneurship, and lived experience into practical insight you can apply immediately.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, burned out, or disconnected from your purpose; this episode will help you reconnect with clarity, confidence, and momentum.

Key Topics Covered

• Why procrastination is rooted in subconscious thinking (not laziness)

• The difference between employee mindset vs. entrepreneur mindset

• How overthinking creates self-doubt and paralysis

• The power of visioning and belief (and why belief comes after action)

• How to stop saying “I have to” and start saying “I get to”

• Why mindset always comes before strategy and execution

• The real meaning of self-leadership in work, parenting, and life

• How coaching helps reveal blind spots you can’t see alone

• Letting go of guilt, perfectionism, and fear of being “not enough”

Who This Episode Is For

• Leaders, entrepreneurs, and professionals feeling stuck or burned out

• Anyone struggling with procrastination or self-doubt

• People navigating career transitions or identity shifts

• Those seeking clarity, confidence, and inner alignment

• Anyone serious about self-leadership and personal growth

Core Takeaway

Self-leadership isn’t about pushing harder. It’s about thinking differently. When your mindset shifts, your actions follow.

Connect with Lin

Website: https://prgm.linyuansu.com/home

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/linyuansu.successcoach

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lin-yuan-su/

Connect with Bobby

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b⁠

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, orSpotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

Want to be a guest on The Self-Leadership Lab? Send Bobby Shelton a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/17641667851977069fa15a161

Most conversations about leadership focus on titles, authority, and control. But what if real leadership starts somewhere else entirely?

In this episode of Self-Leadership Lab, Bobby Shelton sits down with U.S. Marine Corps officer, author, and leadership educator Olaolu Ogunyemi for a powerful in-studio conversation about what it truly means to lead, starting with yourself.

Drawing from military service, corporate experience, parenting, and coaching, Olaolu challenges traditional leadership models and explains why humility, self-awareness, and human connection matter more than rank or position.

This episode is for anyone navigating leadership for the first time, questioning old leadership assumptions, or trying to lead people with greater intention. At work, at home, or in their community.

In This Episode, We Explore:

• Why leadership without self-leadership eventually breaks down

• The tension new leaders face when authority meets experience

• Why being “the smartest person in the room” often backfires

• How humility builds trust faster than charisma

• What the military gets right, and wrong, about leadership

• Why culture starts with leaders understanding themselves

• How leadership lessons begin at home with parents and children

• The danger of ego-driven decisions in leadership roles

About the Guest

Olaolu Ogunyemi is a U.S. Marine Corps officer, author, and founder of Parent Child Connect, a platform dedicated to helping parents, educators, and leaders raise the next generation of impactful leaders. His upcoming book Lead Last explores leadership through service, humility, and legacy.

https://Parent-Child-Connect.com/free-resources

https://www.linkedin.com/in/olaolu-ogunyemi-465ba453/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCcR7d3yzZXfzcBfxveyP-g

Connect With Bobby

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

Want to be a guest on The Self-Leadership Lab? Send Bobby Shelton a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/17641667851977069fa15a161

Final Thought

You don’t need a title to be a leader.

You need presence, humility, and the courage to lead yourself first.

In this episode of The Self-Leadership Lab, Bobby sits down with pastor, coach, and strategist Joshua Delp for a deeply honest conversation about men, identity, self-leadership, and the power of brotherhood.

Joshua shares his personal journey. From growing up without a healthy model of manhood, navigating trauma, addiction, and insecurity, to finding healing through faith, coaching, and intentional community. Together, they explore why so many men feel stuck, isolated, or burned out and why working harder is rarely the solution.

This episode goes beneath surface-level motivation and addresses the real issues holding men back: shame, isolation, misplaced identity, and unchallenged limiting beliefs. Bobby and Joshua discuss why self-leadership must come before leading others, and how clarity, accountability, and connection create lasting change.

Topics Covered in This Episode

• Why many men struggle in silence

• The cost of isolation and shame

• Self-leadership before leadership of others

• The role of brotherhood and accountability

• How trauma and upbringing shape identity

• Why hustle doesn’t fix being stuck

• Belonging, worth, and capability as leadership foundations

• Renewing your mindset and dismantling limiting beliefs

• Faith, healing, and becoming a man built to last

Who This Episode Is For

• Men who feel stuck, burned out, or disconnected

• Leaders carrying pressure alone

• Coaches, mentors, and pastors working with men

• Anyone seeking a deeper, values-based approach to leadership

• Listeners ready to move beyond hustle into alignment

Key Takeaway

Men don’t need more pressure to perform. They need clarity, connection, and the courage to be known.

Self-leadership grows when identity is restored, and accountability replaces isolation.

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If this conversation resonated with you, consider sharing it with someone who needs encouragement or support. Follow The Self-Leadership Lab for weekly conversations on leading yourself so you can better serve others.

Lead yourself well; so, you don’t have to do life alone.

Connect with Joshua:

Website: https://www.risingleadership.org

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-delp-526bbb90/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuadelp

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Joshuadelp99

Connect with Bobby

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple, YouTube, or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

As we step into a new year, this episode of The Self-Leadership Lab isn’t a hype speech or a resolution talk.

It’s a pause.

In this solo episode, Bobby reflects on what the past year revealed about self-leadership, why awareness alone doesn’t change behavior, and how real growth happens quietly, through honesty, discipline, and action.

You’ll hear three simple but powerful lessons about building self-trust, avoiding insight without action, and leading yourself one area at a time. This episode reframes self-leadership as a lab, not a performance ; where progress comes from consistent practice, not perfection.

If you’re ready for a grounded start to the new year, this episode offers a simple invitation: choose one area of your life to lead honestly and observe what happens.

Lead yourself quietly. Stay engaged. Keep moving.

Happy New Year

In this episode of The Self-Leadership Lab, Bobby sits down with entrepreneur, musician, and leadership thinker David Ask for a wide-ranging conversation about grit, identity, values, and what it really means to lead yourself.

We often celebrate grit, hustle, and determination but rarely stop to ask an important question: What if we’re applying grit to the wrong things? David challenges the idea that working harder always leads to fulfillment and instead points to alignment, values, and identity as the true foundation of sustainable leadership.

Together, Bobby and David explore how misplaced identity leads to burnout, why being “successful at the wrong things” is a real danger, and how self-awareness, not hustle, is what allows grit to actually serve us rather than exhaust us.

This conversation weaves together leadership, personal growth, faith, purpose, and practical wisdom, offering a grounded perspective for anyone who feels driven but disconnected.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode

Why grit alone isn’t enough

The difference between grit, steadfastness, and hustle

How values create traction, or friction, in your life

Why identity must come before motivation

The danger of being successful at the wrong things

How childhood experiences shape self-leadership

Humility as a strength, not a weakness

Why clarity beats effort when it comes to fulfillment

How faith and purpose restore order and direction

Who This Episode Is For

Leaders who feel burned out despite working hard

High performers questioning their direction

Anyone navigating identity, purpose, or alignment

Listeners interested in values-based leadership

Those seeking a deeper, more grounded approach to self-leadership

Key Takeaway

Grit is powerful; but only when it’s anchored to the right values and identity. Without alignment, determination becomes exhaustion instead of progress.

Subscribe & Stay Connected

If this episode resonated with you, follow The Self-Leadership Lab on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share it with someone who’s grinding hard but questioning why.

Connect with David

Website: https://www.davidaskmusic.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedavidask/

Email: [email protected]

Connect with Bobby

Instagram: @theselfleadershiplab

LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/dr-bobby-shelton-dsl-pmp-acc-124502b

Podcast: The Self-Leadership Lab (Available on Apple or Spotify)

Website: ⁠www.battlecatcoaching.com⁠

Book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FT68RCB1⁠

Substack: https://bobbyshelton.substack.com/

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