What does it actually mean to love someone?
In this continuation of my conversation with Brian Parrish, we talk about what happens when curiosity replaces judgment — and how that shift can heal families, relationships, and even faith itself.
After sharing the painful fallout of leaving church, including the impact it had on my daughter, we explore what real love looks like when it isn't conditional, performative, or rooted in fear. From "lobby church" to parenting through religious trauma, this episode is a porch-talk style reflection on reclaiming identity, learning to love ourselves, and building bridges instead of walls.
We talk about:
• Why "being curious" might be the purest form of love • The quiet ways people get pushed out of spiritual communities • How religion can unintentionally teach conditional belonging • What it's like parenting kids through faith shifts • Why curiosity dismantles negativity and opens the heart • Imagining a future where Zion means unity, not conformity
This is a conversation about growth, healing, and remembering that we're allowed to change — and still belong.