In this episode of the Southwark Cathedral Podcast, the Dean speaks with American journalist and author Jack El-Hai about his book 'The Nazi and the Psychiatrist' and its film adaptation, 'Nuremberg.' They discuss the psychiatric investigations behind the Nuremberg trials, particularly the relationship between U.S. military psychiatrist Dr. Douglas Kelley and Nazi defendant Hermann Göring, and Kelley's search for a psychiatric condition that might explain the 'Nazi Mind.' The conversation connects these findings to modern authoritarianism, and what we can learn from Kelley's work now.
01:55 Book Origins and Research
04:36 Who Was Douglas Kelly
06:08 Building the Nuremberg Trial
08:09 Meet the Defendants
12:56 Goring and Mind Games
15:20 Are Nazis Mentally Ill
17:34 Authoritarianism Today
20:33 Leaders vs Followers
24:13 Film Adaptation Reflections
26:22 Goring's Death and Aftermath
29:50 Closing Thanks and Farewell