David and I reflect together on the recent run of conversations with VMK, Frank Macchia, and Kimberly Alexander, which leads us to muse at length on the need for long-form conversations, the drastic changes our churches have suffered in the last few decades, due in no small part to new technologies, and what we stand to learn about ourselves and our current situation from close readings of John’s Gospel.

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