The Split Frame of Reference Podcast

In this episode, Nick and Allison answer a few more listener questions. Specifically, we talk about Junia in Romans 16:7, our hopes and dreams about raising our son in an egalitarian household and church, and how egalitarianism is winning the day in seminaries.

We also spend some time addressing a listener’s question about 1 Timothy 2:12. You also get to hear us take a break from geeking out to spend a moment with Nolan as he cries a bit. Don’t worry - he just wanted some snuggle time with mom.

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Hi everyone!

We answer four specific questions in this episode and also talk about the birth of our newborn baby boy, Nolan! Some on 1 Timothy 2:12 and the history of interpretation and other questions about Allison’s experience as a female theologian.

We hope you enjoy it!

If you have questions that you want answered in the future (we plan on doing more episodes like this throughout the week as we could only get to the first few questions) then use the hashtag on twitter #SplitFrameQ&A and we’ll respond!

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Dr. Ron Pierce (Ph.D, Fuller Theological Seminary) is Professor of Old Testament at Biola University and has written and edited numerous books and articles on the topic of women in ministry and the evangelical gender debate. Ron is also a personal friend of ours and we are just over the moon that we could have him on our podcast!

In addition to being the editor of the upcoming 3rd edition of Discovering Biblical Equality (see the second edition here), Dr. Pierce has written extensively for Christians for Biblical Equality (his author page is here). Of special note is his excellent article on Deborah in Judges 4, Women Prophets and the Feminine Voice of God, and his game-changing work on 1 Corinthians 7 and marriage - I (Nick) cite it in my book The Perfection of Our Faithful Wills: it is that good! Dr. Pierce has also written a commentary on the Book of Daniel and an accessible work on marriage and ministry partnership.

Dr. Pierce also teaches an exceptional class on Theology of Gender at Biola, and the playlist on YouTube can be found here. It was first in Dr. Pierce’s class that both of us became convinced of the biblical veracity of egalitarianism and changed our minds based on what Scripture teaches.

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Nick & Allison & Nolan Quient

In this episode, Nick and Allison talk with Dr. Mimi Haddad, president of Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE). Dr. Haddad is a personal friend of ours and we are so excited to welcome her onto our small podcast! We talk about the history of egalitarianism and the future of egalitarianism: where we’ve come from, and where we are going.

Dr. Haddad has written extensively on how Humanity Flourishes when We Invest in Girl's Education, early Women Church Planters, Ending Abuse, and especially how Egalitarianism is not a new path to liberalism. Join us in our conversation with Mimi! We hope you love it! You can follow Mimi on Twitter here.

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In this episode, Nick and Allison talk with Dr. Mary Conway, a contributor to the upcoming and highly anticipated third edition of Discovering Biblical Equality (DBE3). Dr. Conway is Assistant Professor of Old Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Specifically, Dr. Conway is writing on the following in DBE3:

“Gender in Creation: Genesis 1–3.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.

“The Treatment of Women under the Mosaic Law.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.

Dr. Conway has also done extensive linguistic and theological work in Judges, as you can see on her personal page at McMaster.

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Kate is the Lead Pastor at Wellspring Free Methodist Church in Bakersfield, California & Co-Founder of The Junia Project. As a Christian & feminist, Kate enjoys writing & speaking at the intersection of theology & gender. She loves living in Bakersfield with her husband Leif & their 2 dogs. Kate is currently pursuing her Masters of Divinity at Azusa Pacific Seminary & holds a Master of Science from the London School of Economics & a Bachelor of Arts from Azusa Pacific University. She joins us to talk about the genesis of The Junia Project, pastoral ministry, motherhood, and the power of theology and ministry as a life lived in holy love for God and others. We're so happy she joined us! Check her out also on Twitter (Kate and The Junia Project). You can hear her sermons on the Wellspring page!

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Yes. You read that correctly. N.T. Wright stopped by for a few minutes to talk about his new mammoth masterpiece (co-written with Mike Bird) The New Testament in its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians. It is a wonderful work that both Allison and I will be using in our future (hopeful) teaching careers. We talked with Tom for a while about the project (warning: sporadic usage of the phrase ‘Bird Magic’ does appear) and then we asked him a few questions about women in ministry, and about how the New Testament encourages women in leadership.

Much thanks to Jana and others for their work in making this possible, and a hearty thank to Tom for kindly stopping by! Tom of course has written numerous works mentioned in the podcast, but here is a video on his thoughts on women in ministry as well as an article that spells out his thoughts.

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Well hey y’all! It’s been a time! In this episode Nick and Allison talk about communal complicity, gender, and abuse with Rev. Gricel Medina. You can find her on social media on Twitter and Instagram. Pastor Gricel is involved in church planting, theological education, community development, and is deeply involved in biblical gender equality. She is ordained in the Evangelical Covenant Church.

Go check out her work! A big thank you to our 7 patrons on patreon for their support, and a huge thank you to those who engage and share our work on social media! For those who are more sensitive to topics of abuse, we do discuss a lot of abuse within the context of church and family so we want to give you a heads up on that.

In this mega super yuge episode totally nearly 2 hours (!), Nick and Allison explore the complexities of bible translations, and how modern English translations impact gender. We look especially at the ESV and give a brief response to Mike Winger, a Christian apologist who did an entire video on bible translations that is both helpful and somewhat inaccurate, as well as some prominent complementarians who played politics with English translations.

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Hi everyone! We made it around the Texas triangle (Houston - San Antonio - Austin - Waco - DFW - Houston) and during this trip we talked about our time at the Christians for Biblical Equality conference in Houston and answered listener questions. Questions about 1 Tim 2:12, ‘authority,’ abuse, staying in church, and many others!

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