The Split Frame of Reference Podcast

In this episode Nick and Allison talk about the Prophetess Huldah and about basic hermeneutics as they relate to the evangelical gender debate. Much could be said but we limited ourselves to the discussion simply to make things a bit breezy. They also include a discount code at the end of the episode for the Christians for Biblical Equality Conference in Houston, Texas on August 2-4. We hope to meet and see all 'y’all there!

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Nick and Allison tackle the patriarchal reading of Genesis 3, arguing for an egalitarian understanding.

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Allison's re-recorded presentation at the CATA conference in Toronto!

Nick and Allison tackle complementarian readings of Genesis 1-3 as they relate to creation. Follow them on twitter (@NickQuient) and (@AllisonQuient). Hit us up with questions there if you want them answered in the next episode!

This week we talk with Dr. Michael F. Bird, who is Academic Dean and Lecturer in Theology at Ridley College in Australia about Jesus and his view of gender. Mike is a former complementarian who has recently changed his mind on the bible's view of women and we talk about many things in this episode: Jesus and divorce, coffee, Mike's poor taste in drinks, the genderedness of Jesus and soteriology, the issue of sexism and gender dynamics in the classroom, and so on and so forth.

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So, it has been an odd journey since last we spoke! Nick and Allison have both had a few major life changes (you'll have to listen to the episode to find out what exactly all that is!), but today our topic concerns different so-called "gender myths" in relation to friendship and the church. We tackle three so-called "gender myths" in this episode.

Gender Myth 1: sexual love/marriage is the highest form of love.

Gender myth 2: men and women cannot be 'just' friends (Nick makes a comment about the Billy Graham 'rule' which is #savage).

Gender Myth 3: To be fulfilled/fully human is to have a sexual relationship/ be married.

A recommended resource that has shaped a lot of our thinking on this subject, and various gender myths, belongs to New Testament scholars Wesley Hill and his book Spiritual Friendship. The church has drunk deeply from the cultural well, where sexualization has eclipsed the message of Jesus.

And we may have an epic guest on for next time!

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Nick & Allison

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Blessings!

Nick and Allison--

Welp, this is our second recording of this difficult portion of Scripture! Allison took the lead on this one, walking us through multiple exegetical and theological issues within Romans 5, especially as it relates to gender.

Does Romans 5 say anything about gender?

The answer may surprise you. Or it won't.

For Allison's paper on Romans 5:12-21 and universalism, see right here. For her post on resisting evil on Tim Fall's blog, see right here. For her presentation on Eve Christology, see here and here for her further explorations.

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