The Spoon

This episode features a wide-ranging conversation between The Spoon's Michael Wolf and his old friend, long-time veteran tech journalist Derrick Harris, about the state of AI in 2025.

Topics discussed include:

The evolution from the early cloud and big-data era to today’s generative

-AI boomHow Nvidia became dominant on the training side

-How inference is becoming the true infrastructure bottleneck

-Why ChatGPT was a consumer inflection point

-How the AI ecosystem is stratifying between foundation-model providers (OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, Google) and an emerging wave of vertical and agentic applications built on top

-Derrick's belief that infrastructure players will sell “picks and shovels” while domain experts own the higher-order use cases.

We'll have a part 2 with another AI expert in just a couple of weeks.

Enjoy!

This week, we catch up with Nicole Papantoniou, the Director of the Good Housekeeping Kitchen Appliances and Innovation Lab.

We hear from Nicole about what it's like running one of the preeminent testing labs for kitchen appliances in the world, her personal journey to her current position and what she's excited about in terms of kitchen innovation.

Enjoy the podcast!

In this episode of The Spoon Podcast, Mike welcomes Shiru CEO Jasmin Hume to the podcast to catch up on where things sit within the AI and food space in the context of Shiru's own evolution over the past couple of years.

The highlights include:

-Talking about how VCs and entrepreneurs talk differently about how AI is being embraced in food

-Who will own the foundation models for food in the future

-How Jasmin and Shiru have evolved their company and how they talk with food brands about integrating AI

-How Jasmin would advise young food scientists to move forward in an era of AI

It's a fun and interesting conversation, so take a listen!

In this episode of The Spoon Podcast, Michael Wolf sits down with Mark Cuban for a wide-ranging conversation recorded live at the SKS 2025. Mark and Mike discuss the transformative power of AI, exploring why Cuban believes it's more disruptive than the internet, mobile, or streaming, and how it's already reshaping education, jobs, and entrepreneurship. Cuban shares his views on the broken U.S. healthcare system, his motivations behind launching Cost Plus Drugs, and how GLP-1s might reshape food and wellness. They dive into the changing innovation landscape, the future of hardware and robotics, and why Cuban stepped away from Shark Tank and sold majority control of the Mavericks.

While alt-meat and plant-based milks have seen an explosion in great products the past few years, plant-based cheese space hasn't seen the same level of new and exciting products.

That might change soon as Ground Foods brings its cauliflower and hemp based cheese products to the masses.

We talk with Veronica Fil, the CEO of Grounded Foods, on the story behind their product that has many in the plant-based food world excited about cheese.

Ahti Heinla brought the world closer together when he helped build Skype as the founding engineer, but now he's moved onto another way to shrink space and time: sidewalk robots.

Mike walks to Ahti about how he got the idea to start a sidewalk robot company and asks how exactly the system works, how truly autonomous they are and how many robots Ahti expects to have on sidewalks a year from now.

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The NextMarket Podcast is back after a long hiatus!

The guest for this episode is Mark Cuban, who joins Mike to discuss:

-The state of the 2016 Presidential campaign

-Why he decided to discuss Donald Trump's wealth

-The efforts by political insiders to recruit Cuban to make a third party run

-Whether he would consider running for president in the future

-Hillary's weaknesses as a candidate

-His work with others to create a possible new political party

-His investment history and record on Shark Tank

-Why he does Shark Tank

-Whether he regrets missing the success stories he doesn't invest in

-The success of the Amazon Echo and invisible interfaces

-The rise of artificial intelligence and the long-term impact on labor markets

-More!

This is a great conversation so check it out and subscribe to the podcast. You can find more podcasts at http://www.technology.fm/nextmarketpodcast/

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Hey Everyone! I am pretty excited to announce a new podcast called Smart Kitchen Show. I know, I need to work on more original names, but I'm pretty proud of this new show. It's got great stories from makers in the foodtech and smart kitchen space and also will be the story of us putting together a little thing called the Smart Kitchen Summit. It's like the Startup podcast, but for smart home and food tech.

If you like the deep dives we did for NextMarket, you'll like this show. Please check it out and subscribe to it on iTunes itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/smart…how/id1037600142 or using RSS feeds.feedburner.com/SmartKitchenShow

Thanks!

Mike

This is a conversation I did in early 2012 with comedian and podcast giant Marc Maron. We talk about his app, Louis CK, his expectations when he started podcasting, his monetization strategies for the podcast, and where he sees the medium going.