Today we’re sharing our conversation with Craig Tindale, author of the widely read “Return to Matter” paper. 

Craig’s writing captures the fragility of the situation that the West finds itself in, as China’s dominance in the physical world comes home to roost. 

Be it mineral processing all the way to defence equipment manufacturing, China now accounts for the vast majority, and in some cases the entirety of the world’s capacity. There is no easy fix for this. 

In this chat, Craig articulates: 

• How incentives & cheap money got us here 

• Why we’re at the end of the road for “Stateless Capitalism” 

• The tough medicine Western nations must take 

• China’s strategy for lower commodity prices 

• Hints of what the future could be 

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This was recorded on 16.3.2026.   

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(0:00) Intro
(1:00) Western material dependence on China
(4:00) Cost of capital and central banking
(5:40) Efficient pricing hollowing out economies
(10:20) Chinese control of critical metals
(11:40) Unrestricted economic warfare
(23:00) The simultaneity trap
(26:30) Mining valuations and Chinese partnerships
(30:20) Stateless vs state capitalism
(45:00) ESG costs and refining challenges
(51:30) AI enabling manufacturing independence
(55:10) China's automation advantage
(56:40) Balkanization and regional alliances

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