Today we are watching as Congress is on the verge of passing historic investments in our country all while trying to avoid a government shutdown. Joining us for our interview is progressive advocate and Color of Change Chair of the Board, Heather McGhee. We talk about her amazing book, The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together and she talks about why some people in this country insist on voting against their best interests. And then JoAnne Smith from Women’s March Action joins us for our reasons for hope.

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