In this episode of The Tech Arts Podcast, we sit down with David McCauley, author of the leadership book You Don’t Know Sheep—a practical, humorous, and deeply insightful guide for today’s technical, faith and ministry leaders. Drawing from decades of real-world experience in church leadership, technical ministry, and organizational growth, David unpacks how leaders can better understand the people they serve, make healthier decisions under pressure, lead from outside the box, and—most importantly—remember the why behind what they do. This conversation explores leadership through the lens of human behavior, team culture, emotion in decision-making, and how great leaders guide experiences for the people they lead.