Estate managers and interior designers both want to make their principals happy — so why is it such a challenge to work together? We asked two friends to debate some common scenarios, and to share how they've built a positive working relationship.

Peter Van Ryder is the owner of Estate Management Solutions, a placement, recruitment, training, and consulting firm based in Dallas, TX. English Minter is a Dallas-based interior designer, who started working with Peter through a shared client.

They've been through it all — a lofty vision from their principal, tight deadlines, and lots of push and pull between their competing priorities. In this episode of the Easemakers Podcast, they share stories and lessons learned from their time working together, in hopes of helping you build stronger relationships.

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The Easemakers Podcast is presented by Nines, household management software and services built for discerning households and the private service professionals who support them.