In today's podcast, our Executive Search Consultant, Rick Callahan, talks with Alan Frow. Alan is a leader on the pastoral team of Southlands Brea Church in California and he serves on the Global Leadership Team of the Advance movement of churches. He has also authored multiple books such as his latest work "Psalms for a Saturated Soul: An Ancient Guide to Emotional Health".

In this conversation, Rick and Alan discuss negating the tension between self-care and self-denial. Alan also emphasizes the importance of wholeness and health, and how it's foundational to ministry. We hope you enjoy the conversation.

https://www.vanderbloemen.com/blog/the-tension-between-self-care-self-denial