Paul Louis Metzger, Ph.D., is Professor of Christian Theology & Theology & Culture, Multnomah Biblical Seminary/Jessup University, Director of The Institute for Cultural Engagement: New Wine, New Wineskins, and author and editor of numerous works, including Evangelical Zen: A Christian’s Spiritual Travels with a Buddhist Friend(2nd ed., Cascade, 2024),More Than Things: A Personalist Ethics for a Throwaway Culture(IVP Academic, 2023), Connecting Christ: How to Discuss Jesus in a World of Diverse Paths (Thomas Nelson, 2012), and A World for All? Global Civil Society in Political Theory and Trinitarian Theology (co-editor, Eerdmans, 2011). 

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-Evangelical Zen(book):https://wipfandstock.com/9781666768411/evangelical-zen-second-edition/

- Paul’s Patheos Blog: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/uncommongodcommongood/

- Paul’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paul.l.metzger/

- Paul’s website:https://paullouismetzger.com/

- New Wine, New Wineskins: https://www.new-wineskins.org/

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OUTLINE:

(00:00) – Introduction

(03:44) – Roundtable: Kyogen Carlson, Augustine, Dogen, MLK, Steinbeck

(06:12) – Initial interest in Buddhism and Japanese culture

(10:35) – Where evangelical and Zen meet

(15:35) – Permanence vs. impermanence

(19:47) – Living with ambiguity

(23:22) – Holy envy

(26:55) – Buddhism and the culture wars

(35:40) – The life and poetry of Kobayashi Issa

(40:55) – Nirvana in Kanazawa

(44:54) – Inhabiting a tradition

(49:10) – The object of (this) multi-faith friendship

(51:25) – Book projects in the works

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Johannes Aakjær Steenbuch received his PhD in philosophy from the University of Copenhagen with a dissertation on negative theology and ethics in Clement of Alexandria and Gregory of Nyssa. He is the author of Negative Theology: A Short Introduction (Cascade, 2022).

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Rev. Dr. Andrew T. Draper is the Executive Director of Winebrenner Theological Seminary in Findlay, OH. He is also teaching pastor at Urban Light Community Church in Muncie, IN. He has authored numerous books and articles on race, disability, and the church. Dr. Draper holds a PhD in theological ethics from the University of Aberdeen and an MDiv from Winebrenner Theological Seminary.

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- A Theology of Race and Place (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9781498280822/a-theology-of-race-and-place/

- Dr. Draper’s website: https://atdraper.wordpress.com/

- Dr. Draper’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrew.t.draper.3/

- Dr. Draper’s X: https://x.com/AndrewTDraper

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- Winebrenner Theological Seminary Faculty Page: https://winebrenner.edu/personnel/andrew-t-draper-phd/

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Jack Haberer was raised Roman Catholic, became a Jesus freak, was formed in faith by Baptists, Pentecostals, Charismatics, Methodists, Non-denominationals, and finally ordained a Presbyterian, earning three academic degrees in the process. He has served influential churches as pastor—in twenty-two of which he preached to rocket scientists. The congregations flourished. He has written three earlier books and served as editor of The Presbyterian Outlook for nine years. He is the author of Swimming with the Sharks: Leading the Full Spectrum Church in a Red-and-Blue World (Cascade, 2024).

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- Swimming with the Sharks (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9798385210404/swimming-with-the-sharks/

- GodViews (book): https://www.wjkbooks.com/Products/0664501907/godviews.aspx

- Jack’s website: https://jackhaberer.com/

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Andrew Barron was an adjunct faculty at The Centre for Spirituality, Disability, and Care at Martin Luther University College, federated with Wilfrid Laurier University in Ontario, Canada. He has previously taught disability and theology at Wycliffe College at the University of Toronto where he graduated with his doctor of ministry degree in 2016. Barron is the author of Human Difference: Reflections on a Life in Proximity to Disability (Cascade, 2024). He is married to Laura and is the father of Rafael, Ketzia, and Simona.

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- Dr. Barron’s website: https://www.drandrewbarron.com/

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Johannes Aakjær Steenbuch received his PhD in philosophy from the University of Copenhagen with a dissertation on negative theology and ethics in Clement of Alexandria and Gregory of Nyssa. He is the author of Negative Theology: A Short Introduction (Cascade, 2022).

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- Negative Theology (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9781666742169/negative-theology/

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Susan Grove Eastman is associate research professor emerita of New Testament at Duke Divinity School. She is the author of Paul and the Person: Reframing Paul’s Anthropology (2017), Recovering Paul’s Mother Tongue: Language and Theology in Galatians (2007/2022), Oneself in Another: Participation and Personhood in Pauline Theology (2024), and Romans: An Interpretation Commentary (forthcoming, 2025).

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-Oneself in Another (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9781532692628/oneself-in-another/

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Steven DeLay is an Old Member of Christ Church, University of Oxford. He is the author of philosophical works and works of fiction, including Elijah Newman Died Today (2022) and Faint Not (2022), and the translator of Jean-Louis Chrétien’s Ten Meditations for Catching and Losing One’s Breath (Cascade, 2024).

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- Ten Meditations for Catching and Losing One’s Breath (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9781666766110/ten-meditations-for-catching-and-losing-ones-breath/

- Phenomenology in France (book): https://tinyurl.com/ypr4hr78

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Andrew M. Davis is program director for the Center for Process Studies. He is author, editor, and coeditor of several books including Mind, Value, and Cosmos (2020), Metaphysics of Exo-Life (2023), and From Force to Persuasion (Cascade, 2024).

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- From Force to Persuasion (book): https://wipfandstock.com/9781666784428/from-force-to-persuasion/

- Whitehead and Teilhard (book): https://tinyurl.com/2s3vxb5p

- How I Found God in Everyone and Everywhere (book): https://tinyurl.com/27nk7ck2

- Perspectives in Process Studies (book series): https://wipfandstock.com/search-results/?series=perspectives-in-process-studies-series

- Center for Process Studies: https://ctr4process.org/

- Andrew’s website: https://www.andrewmdavis.info/

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Colby Dickinson is professor of theology at Loyola University, Chicago. He is the author of Haunted Words, Haunted Selves: Listening to Otherness within Western Thought (Cascade, 2024), Giorgio Agamben’s Homo Sacer Series: A Critical Introduction and Guide (2022), Theological Poverty in Continental Philosophy: After Christian Theology (2021), Theology as Autobiography: The Centrality of Confession, Relationship, and Prayer to the Life of Faith (Cascade, 2020), and The Fetish of Theology: The Challenge of the Fetish-Object to Modernity (2020).

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Haunted Words, Haunted Selves book: https://wipfandstock.com/9781666769210/haunted-words-haunted-selves/

Theology as Autobiography book: https://wipfandstock.com/9781532688829/theology-as-autobiography/

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