Chris is in Dallas, and Glenn is on the road, and Tom feels too lonely to record a show. So, we dig into Chris’s personal vault of recorded stuff this week for a conversation with Aaron Renn, publisher of the Masculinist.

Chris and Aaron are joined by David Talcott, professor of philosophy at King’s College in New York City, Sam Perez, a pastor in Jersey City, and Nate Towers of Fellowship Deaconry.

This is a free-range conversation about men, masculinity, the church, women, Jason Peterson, and a host of other things. Enjoy!

The Pugcast guys will be back next week.