In this episode Michael and Martin talk to Ryan McArthur, festival director for Beervana, New Zealand's biggest beer festival, which is on in Wellington on August 22 & 23. Keeping a huge beer festival relevant and sustainable is no easy task but Beervana just keeps getting better and better. Plus, Ryan has some inside tips on how to make the most of your experience. The beers we review in this episode are Beervana-esque. Michael has 8 Wired's Sticky Barleywine, a lush 12% beer made with dates, plums and raisins; and Martin is drinking Hallertau's Stuntman Double IPA, rebrewed for their 20th birthday. And we spend a bit of time paying homage to Hallertau, one of the first to bring great beer to Auckland.