In this episode, Steve Woodworth, CEO of Masterworks, shares the data points and discoveries that fueled his deep commitment to finish well—against the obvious odds. Steve has seen, he’s studied, he’s now stewarding his own leadership transition alongside his successor, and he’s at work writing a book—sharing wisdom and insights of experienced leaders—to serve and inspire others in the commitment to finish well.

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Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

In today’s episode, we're joined by Linda Maris, a long-time and deeply respected leader within the National Christian Foundation ecosystem, to talk through her leadership journey and her commitment to helping us safely and meaningfully engage in wealth transfer -- a process that often takes five years.  

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

In today’s episode, Mark and Kristin share the what’s and why’s of the four foundational themes or resources that serve as the bedrock of the Maestro-level leader cohort experience and, more importantly than that, serve as contributors to successful leadership transition.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

Guest Dave Cornell is an author, coach, trainer, and speaker to leaders and organizations, helping them recognize and navigate the ways that fear and courage impact us personally and professionally.  In this episode, he reminds us that we all have fear but seldom admit it, and unpacks fear’s role in practical leadership realities like our struggle to hold people accountable, temptations to command-and-control (versus trust and inspire), and—especially for Third Turn leaders--hanging around too long, not making the leadership handoff, and stepping into the unknowns of life beyond organizational leadership. Join us as Dave reminds us about the unique kind of courage required to lead well, lean into the unknown, and learn as we go.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

Gifted, articulate, purpose-beyond-profit driven business coach Julaine Smith brings life to the business numbers. In this episode, she shares ways to make those numbers really count—translating a business vision and plan into a compelling financial story and accompanying metrics and resources.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders.

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman, who is our audio engineer.

Co-hosts Kristin Evenson and Mark L. Vincent reflect in this episode on a pivotal experience in each of their three turns of leadership. The stories they share bring to life the important work for each of us that lies embedded in Turns One, Two, and Three, and the formative experiences that not only transform us as leaders but equip us to increasingly see a broader scope beyond ourselves and a future beyond our own leadership.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

Our guest Donna Schumell—a Third Turn leader and partner in the firm The Disruptive Element--shares her very serendipitous career journey as well as the surprising shifts that have marked her own Third Turn in leadership. Her story invites us all to consider how to make space for serendipity and surprises in context of an otherwise planful and intentional Third Turn of leadership.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

This episode presents a unique, roughly 20-minute opportunity to mentally walk through your last four years of organizational leadership—and begin developing a thoughtful, planful approach with the end in mind. Mark L. Vincent delivers a concise and informative audio visual walk-though that allows you as a leader to personally reflect, and/or process with colleagues. What does the last four years of executive leadership look like for you, with the goal of finishing well and with the end in mind, and slingshotting your successors into a thriving future?

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

Linda Milanowski-Westdorp had a long and lauded career through the ranks and divisions of renowned Herman Miller. She joins us in this episode to share how those leadership experiences shaped her and how she’s paying it forward to benefit organizations and leaders—especially in the First and Third Turns.

Your Hosts:

Mark L. Vincent, Founder of Design Group International and the Society for Process Consulting. He also facilitates Maestro-level leaders

Kristin Evenson, Consultant and Coach at Junctures.

Find out more about The Third Turn Podcast by visiting thirdturnpodcast.com.

Jennifer Miller, who runs a marketing consultancy firm called, Strategically Connected, is our producer.

And shout out to Joshua Brinkman who is our audio engineer.

In the 56th episode, Mark L. Vincents reads from some of his weekly correspondences with clients and colleagues discussing the four themes for successful Maestro-level leaders.