In this episode, Michael finally shares the wild story he's been holding back for decades: the day in 2006 when he slipped from a meditation session in his Queens apartment back through time—waking up in his 15-year-old body in 1990. Was it something like a dream, an out-of-body journey, or actual time travel? Jeff and Michael follow the thread from memory and synchronicity into questions of how we experience time itself—linear, cyclical, radial, and kairos.

Episode Highlights [00:00:50] Waking Up in 1990

• Michael quickly jumps into the story that frames our whole conversation.

[00:07:08] Living in 1990

• Michael recounts the weeks he spent in 1990.

[00:11:01] Back to the Future

• Michael goes back to the future and seeks confirmation of his travels back in time.

[00:15:23] Follow Up Questions

• Jeff asks Michael some follow up questions to try to better understand the nature of his experience.

[00:20:21] Meditation, Tantra, and Radial Time

• A deeper dive into how meditation and Tibetan tantric models (mandalas, wheel-of-time) might reshape our understandings of time—time as radial/mandalic/cyclical rather than linear.

[00:33:53] Modern Time

• Jeff and Michael widen the lens: how do we experience and understand time in our modern lives and world? From clocks and railroads to relativity and the Big Bang. chronology vs. kairos, the social history of clocks, relativity, and speculative cosmology (how modern observations challenge simple Big-Bang narratives).

[00:47:43] OBE / Astral Projection Connections

• They compare Michael's time story to out-of-body and astral experiences.

[00:53:36] Kairos, Practical Takeaways & Sign-off

• Closing reflections on kairos (the opportune moment), spiritual implications for freedom from "clock time," and suggestions for small time experiments.

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