Jemma and Marina were thrilled when Labour MP, Jess Phillips, agreed to take time out of her mad diary for a proper chinwag. 

The Trawl ladies were fascinated to know how it feels being a female MP during such febrile times and found out what motivates her to keep going. At time of record, Rishi Sunak, hadn't surprised everyone by calling the election so unexpectedly early but Labour were in election mode nonetheless, and Marina and Jemma took the opportunity to find out what Jess makes of Natalie Elphicke's defection from the Tory party and, how it felt when she quit the front bench in 2023 over Keir Starmer's stance on Gaza, after voting in the Commons for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas conflict. 

They discuss the work she does in her role as Minister for Domestic Violence and Safeguarding, and her podcast with Beth Rigby and Ruth Davidson, Electoral Dysfunction and ask the question everyone wants answered - will Labour become more 'left' if/when they get into power. 

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