"Conversion therapy" is one of the most controversial—and misunderstood—terms in today's culture.

The media portrays it as inherently harmful, while lawmakers increasingly use the term to justify restrictions on counseling related to sexuality and gender identity. But what exactly qualifies as conversion therapy? Are all forms of counseling in this category abusive? And what are the implications for religious liberty when governments begin regulating conversations about biblical sexuality?

In this episode, I talk with counselor, author, and speaker Joe Dallas, who has spent nearly 40 years helping individuals and families navigate questions related to same-sex attraction and Christian faith. 

Topics include:

• Joe's personal journey with homosexuality
• Five things parents can do right when a child says, "I'm gay"
• What "conversion therapy" actually means—and why definitions matter
• Harmful practices Christians should reject
• What legitimate biblical counseling looks like
• Why 23 states have banned forms of counseling for minors
• The recent Supreme Court case involving Colorado's conversion therapy ban
• The difference between changing behavior and changing attractions
• How Christians can balance conviction, compassion, truth, and freedom

In a culture that often reduces complex issues to slogans, this conversation brings much-needed nuance, clarity, and biblical perspective.

Learn more about Joe, his work, and his many resources at joedallas.com.

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