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Episode 100 features an exclusive, deeply-intimate conversation with Derek Vincent Smith, co-founder & mastermind behind the kaleidoscopic multimedia sound-art collective/project Pretty Lights. Easily the most requested guest for the show all-time, this wide-ranging, beautiful breaux-down marks the first official DVS interview in over a dozen years.

This milestone episode serves as the inaugural sesh of an ambitious, multi-part retrospective series with Derek: A Pod Thru Life Fantastic.

After a half-decade of virtually-silent seclusion spent far away from the spotlight, music industry machine, and its cascade of temptation, DVS famously re-emerged in August 2023 to pilot a bombastic modular live band on the triumphant Soundship Spacesystem tours. Following years of real-time onstage improvisation, empowered research and development, plus a few personnel transitions, July 2026 saw the sudden arrival of A Trip Thru Time Fantastic.  The first three constellations (or EPs) reveal a quiver of 15 unicorn compositions, the initial drop towards a massive forty-five track studio document. The sensational record represents the first new (studio) statement from Smith & Co. since the shapeshifting avant garde of 2013's Grammy-nominated A Color Map of the Sun. 

Upful LIFE host B.Getz first profiled the producer for JamBase during his meteoric underground rise in 2009. Sixteen years on down the number line, Episode 100 pulls back the curtain on one of the most enigmatic minds in modern music culture. Vol.1 of the mini-series traces the exhaustive realities and suffocating pressure of Pretty Lights’ rocketship to EDM fame, splintered collaborative partnership & heart-filling reunion/rebirth with high-school bestie/PL co-founder Michal Menert, debilitating battles with substance abuse and then the rollercoaster of medicated-assisted treatment, onward to meeting his life partner Uma, the spiritual and healing journeys they embarked on together, a deliberate choice to literally disappear at the height of commercial success, and various impactful realizations uncovered whilst working towards rediscovering his creative purpose. 

DVS is swiftly keen to discuss “To Stream or Not To Stream”, he loves on the Pretty Lights bandmembers: Menert, Borahm Lee, Alvin Ford Jr., new turntablist/longtime homie & behind-the-scenes PL contributor Dave Najarian aka '96', frequent special guest/ vibe curator Mikey Thunder, & numerous peeps offstage who stay steadily making things pop.

As per 'The Upful Way', A Pod Thru Life Fantastic eschews standard Q&A interview formulas to deliver a fluid, soulful, and trusting conversation between DVS and B.Getz. For nearly 2.5 hours, enjoy the musical musings and raw reflections of an innovator who walked away from the limelight only to return an evolved version of self, and did it ALL entirely on his own terms. 

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A Year In The Life of SARI JORDAN. Follow along the myriad musings, brave journey, and kaleidoscopic adventures of this unicorn artist blossoming in the vibrant underground of the beloved Crescent City. Three lengthy, intentional, colorful conversations with your humble narrator - in June 2025 in Oakland, CA, again in May 2026 in NOLA, and concluding July 2026 back in Oakland - paint illuminating murals of an ambitious, articulate singer/songwriter/multi-instrumentalist, portraits of a person stepping into their true selves in real time.

Each chat a fresh chapter and free exchange of ideas, exploring Sari's monumental glow-up; manifesting a sensational debut LP 'Perfect Be the Enemy'; introducing their latest live band; unpacking essential influences/inspirations/collaborators; the realities of DIY touring in 2026; musical truths unearthed thru transitioning; putting grief into song; finding their voice/learning to fly; singing in Anna Moss's live band and impactful lessons from the road; the glory of High Sierra Music Festival; plus assorted human experiences buried betwixt all of this action and attention.

"Grow Apart" - Sari Jordan [2026]

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Sari Jordan is a vocalist, songwriter and musician with a voice that shines in its raw honesty and playful boldness. Their music is intricate and ethereal, funky and joyful, a controlled burn. This New Jersey-born, New Orleans-based artist explores contradictions within relationships, power, and love. Jordan’s unique voice and introspective songs buzz at the edge that shimmers between artist and listener. 

Led by their ears and curiosity, Sari’s musicianship exploded in the school of the New Orleans music scene. In October 2023, they released Sing to the Moon, a collection of original songs that reflect nascent ruminations with subtle confidence and ample whimsy. The 4-song EP is stamped with the influence of New Orleans.

PERFECT BE THE ENEMY is their debut album, released in Spring 2026. The 11-song project turns grief and transition inside out, adorning the emotional earthquakes of life in eclectic grooves, hypnotic guitar lines, and a warm and golden light — with Jordan’s voice and stories shining through.

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Episode 098 brings a double dose of low end theory, welcoming a pioneering pair of underground bass legends percolating on opposite coasts, both cats deep in the streets and boasting decades in the game, with the catalogues and collaborators to prove it.

First up Mike Rivard [aka Micro] - bass/sintir/founder/visionary of Boston's jazz-trance-dub-hop institution known as Club d'Elf. Twas an honor and privilege to finally tap in with Micro after a quarter century of fandom and awe. We chop it up at length about his group's unicorn career, magnificent co-conspirators like the late Mark Sandman, John Medeski, Brahim Fribgane (RIP), Joe (RIP) and Mat Maneri, Dave Tronzo, and (Friends Of The Pod) Mister Rourke, Adam Deitch, Ryan Zoidis, Jonny G, among several others. We learn about Moroccan sintir; the healing powers of Gnawa trance music; plant medicines and Terrence McKenna; Micro's personal trials and tribulations along the way; perspective on the integral role of independent music venues; interpolating NOLA Second Line rhythms in tandem with Morrocan traditions; revisiting his embryonic journeys with the Grateful Dead as a wide-eared, curious youngster. In April 2026, Club d'Elf unveiled their latest full-length LP Loon & Thrush, an absolutely stunning affair in a deep, eclectic d'Elf canon brimming with brilliant configurations and bold adventuring.

We chase that inspired dialog with another crucial chat featuring electrifying LA-based bassist/badass Lonnie Marshall from pioneering underground funk/hip-hop squadron Weapon of Choice. Lonnie was kind enough to hop on to discuss his life of Nutmeg Music, his bombastic and eclectic history and eccentric persona, direct lineage from the P-Funk family tree and his teenage era rollin' with Bootsy Collins' Boot Camp, colorful storytelling and dope collabs, remembering the ambitious daKAH hip-hop orchestra, recording/gigging Joe Strummer's debut solo LP/group, reflections on his brother Arik Marshall's brief, chaotic moment with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and long-term run backing Macy Gray. Plus a whole lot more in this educational inspirational get down with the most mega-nutt mug to ever bless these podwaves!

Weapon of Choice: "Nutty Nutmeg Phantasy" video/remix 2026

After years grinding it out on the LA scene with his brother Arik in Marshall Law, Lonnie Marshall founded Weapon of Choice in 1992, holding down bass and lead vocals. After a video directed by Geoff Moore for their song "Uppity, Yuppity Doolittle" came to the attention of Pearl Jam's Stone Gossard, the band was signed to Gossard‘s record label Loosegroove. They released three albums with Loosegroove before the company folded in 2000: "Nut-meg says Bozo the Town" (1994), Highperspice (1996), and Nutmeg Phantasy (1998). In 2001, the band dropped Illoominutty on Fishbone's Nuttsactor 5 record label, and in 2003, they released Color Me Funky.

Since 1997, Lonnie has performed alongside members of P Funk and Fishbone, among others, as part of Trulio Disgracias - a constantly mutating funk-rock-jazz collective headed by Norwood Fisher. Lonnie was an emcee, composer, and performer for daKAH, a 65 piece hip-hop orchestra which coalesced periodically in the Los Angeles area for many years. Before that, Marshall wrote, recorded and toured with the legendary Joe Strummer of The Clash, behind Strummer's dynamic 1989 solo debut Earthquake Weather. Lonnie has contributed/collaborated with Macy Gray, Snoop Dogg, Tone Loc, Ice Cube, George Clinton, Funkadelic, Perry Farrell, Les Claypool, Stone Gossard and his brother Arik Marshall.

"Big Light In Sky" - Club d'Elf w/ Adam Deitch

Hotaka Mountain Music Festival - Japan- 2001-08-11

lespecial x Kanika Moore - "Chop Suey" [System of a Down] - 5/1/26 Blue Nile, NOLA 

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Welcome to Episode 097 veteran drummer and percussionist JOHN SPEICE, prominently based in the Austin scene. Best known for work with Grammy-winning Latin ensemble Grupo Fantasma and its psychedelic-funk offshoot Brownout, including their beloved Black Sabbath-inspired side trip Brown Sabbath. Throughout his career, Speice has been core to a diverse array of bands like Money Chicha, Hairy Apes BMX, and Caramelo Haze, also collaborating with Black Pumas, Daniel Johnston, Golden Dawn Arkestra, Trio Asesino, Jon Muq, among many others. I first saw John Speice electrify with a one-off version of Marco Benevento Trio at Megalomaniacs Ball 2011 in New Orleans over Jazz Fest. In addition to giving us the lowdown on the Apes reunion, we get the scoop on a half-dozen of his super-dope bands.  John breaks down a bit of basic history and the musical/cultural impact of classic and contemporary cumbia/chicha styles. He reflects on how they've been interpreted/expounded upon since breaking through stateside some years ago. A friend for a dozen years, this pod conversation is many moons in the making. Give Thanks 4 John Speice! 

At the conclusion, Johnny says goodbye to famed Philly radio DJ & Deadhead legend Pierre Robert [WMMR], followed by some words on the dearly departed Bob Weir. The episode wraps with a heartfilling, tear-jerking purge from the grate Scott T., ruminating on the essence and energy that defined Cowboy Bobby, the mysterious and mystical Spirit of the Suwannee, and the unquestionable, transformational power of a song.

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Episode 096 welcomes three-headed prog-tronic hydra lespecial, plus enigmatic bass-wizard Yheti, for an expansive deep dive into their mind-bending collaborative portal - LIMINOID. Framed through the lens of "A Year in the Life of lespecial," the conversations chronicle a monumental run from Jam Cruise 21 in Feb.2025, thru the LIMINOID experience, then NYE marking their 20th anniversary since forming as high-schoolers in the woods of Connecticut, before looking towards the future. This episode orbits LIMINOID’s debut The Outernet, an idiosyncratic sonic tapestry and brilliantly-bizarre concept album where the searing precision of Rory Dolan, Luke Bemand, and Jonny G is masterfully manipulated by the surgical, mad scientist sound design of Yheti. Ep.096 finishes with Tales of a Tour Manager featuring Bret Peretz [Pigeons Playing Ping Pong].

lespecial: A Year In The Life begins on the ragey open seas, as B.Getz connects with all three members of lespecial while aboard Jam Cruise in Feb. 2025. This Day 5 cabin summit at the tail end of this floating carnival captures the fellas [Rory Dolan - drums/vox, Luke Bemand - bass/synths, Jonny G - guitar/synths, vox] reflecting on the boat’s bombastic musical escapades, playing with (friends of the pod) Alex Wasily, Mike Dillon and Skerik, Rory’s Primus audition, introducing new music onstage, revisiting “Cannibal Holocaust”, spotlighting their relationship with Yheti and a forthcoming collaboration at the time still in its infancy. 

The narrative shifts to a focused deep dive in early December 2025 with Yheti, plus a little more color from Jonny G. Since it was always his baby, BG looks to Tyler Yheti to properly unpack the modus operandi behind the LIMINOID endeavor. Explore the creation of The Outernet, how they navigated the "liminal space" between organic instrumentation and avant-garde electronics. This segment highlights the brilliance of the concept, recalls initial challenges performing this project live (see - Mishawaka in May 2025), the tricks and tools required to bring this genre-schitzo robot to life - both in studio and then onstage, and creating a new hybrid strain of intoxicating, brain-splattering sound art that exists beyond traditional boundaries.

The saga continues: a series of individual conversations with Rory, Luke, and Jonny from early Feb. 2026.  We complete this podcast revolution around the sun, honor 20 years of hometown buddies who made good, and look towards their mighty bright immediate future. These one-on-one sessions allow for a more granular peek into personal growth, interband dynamics, and creative philosophies as they recognize a brotherhood that has kept them bonded since teenage garage band glory. We amp the stoke for lespecial's long-awaited return to West Coast's burnin' shores on the cryptically-titled Tentacle Difficulties tour. Behold this monumental, DIY evolution from small-town Connecticut proggy power trio to a genre-blurring, frontal-lobe leviathan known to us mere mortals as lespecial.

For an episode chaser B.Getz checks in with an old friend in Bret Peretz, a connection rooted at Spirit of Suwannee Music Park years ago. The longtime Tour Manager for Pigeons Playing Ping Pong has worked many jobs behind the scenes over the course of a decade-plus. Several months back, Bret opened up about his beautiful journey from the hotel hospitality industry and nearly joining the Coast Guard, humble backstage beginnings all the way to the P4 gig at the heart of contemporary jam scene success.

lespecial - "Boundary Dissolution” 

lespecial's signature blend of “heavy future groove” combines headbanging metal riffage and surgical rhythmic precision with bone shaking 808s, sub synths and ethereal vocal stylings for a dance floor that welcomes moshing, dancing and hip swaying alike. Listeners are taken on a journey to the musical netherworld through esoteric soundscapes punctuated by raw, primal power.

LIMINOID is a musical entity formed through the integration of data streams from Yheti and lespecial, two distinct sonic architects. Yheti orchestrates the sonic experiment while lespecial contributes live instrumentation encoded with rhythmic complexity. Analysis of live performance recordings reveals high variability and dynamic modulation of energy states. Audience response patterns indicate elevated engagement during improvisational sequences. Conclusion: LIMINOID functions as a high-intensity auditory experiment, optimized for real-time adaptation and multi-genre convergence without reliance on predefined constraints. System recommends further observation.  Their debut live performance was May 2025 at Mishawaka Amphitheater in Bellvue, CO. 2025 debut LP ‘The Outernet’ is a 12 track concept album that explores the liminal space between humanity and technology. The group performed at several festivals and a short tour in November 2025.

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Your boy is back from paternity hiatus with another banger! Preposterously prolific San Francisco composer, producer, vocalist, and multi-instrumentalist OTIS McDONALD is finally here. Hallelujah! Gov't name Joe Bagale, Otis has turned Hyde Street’s Studio D — a hallowed sacred ground in the annals of funk/rock/hip-hop history — into a potent personal laboratory where he generates/facilitates a steady flow of ridiculously dope records. The in-demand music man slides through episode 095 for a lengthy, illuminating upful discussion; BG also checks back in with Derrick 'Smoker' Freeman [SOUL Brass Band, Shadow People Podcast]; and later introduces rising NorCal guitarist/solo artist Piet Dalmolen.

Otis McDonald released an original track every Friday for three years during the pandemic, though he since pumped the brakes to every third week. In addition, the gifted producer/engineer and sideman has delivered assorted crucial collabs with the likes of Eric Krasno, Nicholas Payton, Aloe Blacc, Wil Blades, Charlie Hunter, among others. Across two-plus decades in the Bay Area, he's worked extensively with scene stalwarts Jazz Mafia, Atta Kid, and their various spinoffs/side trips; Bagale even logged a couple years fronting an iteration of Mickey Hart Band on keys, guitar, and lead vocals. 

Otis McDonald "I Can't Stand [we can't stop]"

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An afghan of reverential storytelling. FOUR heart-filling hours brimming with memories, love letters, & gratitude reflections from a blessed & benevolent collection of souls who've touched my life across the years & miles. We all share a profound reverence for the man born Michael Eugene Archer. Large UP each crucial contributor for their sacred offerings to this show. This passion purge in podcast form is my deepest bow.

Give Thanks 4 D'Angelo. May the four winds blow you safely home. We'll be loving you always. -bg

D'Angelo In Memoriam: Thank You For Talking To Me Michael.

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Episode 093 welcomes back POLYRHYTHMICS, the fantastically-funky septet primarily based in Seattle, but these days steadily spreading their net further and wider than ever before. BEN BLOOM (along w/ bassist Jason Gray) appeared on Ep.059 in 2022, now the guitarist/co-founder returns to chop it up once again, this time with drummer/co-founder GRANT SCHROFF (aka Champagne Bubblebath) also in the mix.

Late 2025 brings busy, fertile, exciting times for the erstwhile groove merchants as they mark 15 years in the game, and we celebrate the release of their fiery new LP 'Life From Below'. They're hitting the road just as the pod goes to press, the boys ready to bless up some long dormant markets in the Northeast, Southeast, and beyond. We get the scoop on the blazin' new joints, before delving into some personal developents like how Bloom recently relocated back East with his family. The guys discuss the new geographical band dynamics, and how it affects the hang, writing, rehearsal, travel, and overall Polyrhythmics' modus operandi. We go inside the lab and look into studio sessions for the latest record, hear some philosophies on improvising, unpack band interpersonal communications, reflections on collaborating with vocalist Adryon de Leon, the forthcoming Champagne Bubblebath mixtape with Gray and searing Seattle axeslinger Jimmy James, plus a whole lot more!  -bg

Bio:

Seattle-based Polyrhythmics are celebrating 15 years of sonic exploration with the release of their highly anticipated new album, Life from Below. Since forming in 2010, this seven-piece powerhouse has redefined instrumental music with a sound that blends funk, soul, psychedelic rock, R&B, and Afrobeat into a kaleidoscope of rhythm and groove. Known for their dynamic live performances and innovative compositions, the band has earned a reputation as one of the most captivating acts on the contemporary music scene.

This year’s Life from Below marks an exciting new chapter for Polyrhythmics, delivering a fresh collection of grooves infused with the bold creativity and signature tight-knit musicianship that fans have come to expect. As they celebrate their 15th anniversary, the band reflects on a decade-and-a-half of musical evolution, countless miles on the road, and a loyal community of listeners that continues to grow.

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"Mayo Con Yayo" - Polyrhythmics

"Humpin' Around" -- The Nth Power GAP Band Tribute ft. Eric Gales and Nicholas Payton [9/21/25 Tipitina's in New Orleans for DJ Soul Sister's 50th]

"New Life" - Blind Melon - demo 1995

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Episode 092 is all about the underground, from sea to mighty sea; welcome MORiLLO and AIN'T SISTERS! Among my preferred dancefloor generals on the decks across the past decade, it’s high time to tap in with The Dub Cartographer, global bass sorcerer MORiLLO down in L.A. Gov’t name Zach Morillo, the Groundation drummer pulls double-duty as a dynamite producer-dj and modern-day dub maestro. My man was kind enough to share some stoke, perspective, co-conspirators, and crucial creative processes surrounding his intoxicating latest full-length release, and this exciting new collaborative chapter in an ever-evolving electronic dance music career. 

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Get the 411 on Atlanta-based, SOSMP faves AIN’T SISTERS. Frontpersons Barb Carbon and Arrie Bozeman join the pod from the deep Southeast, an insightful, humorous, nostalgic chat to discuss their unique connection, band origin/journey, their music & message, and the incomparable energy native to the Spirit of Suwannee. Across the past few years, it's been recommended I check out this white-hot band of badasses in ATL, by way of numerous folks in the know. As such, it was hella cool to finally hear their colorful story, karmic chemistry, and punky alt-folk rock musical adventuring; reflections and recollections heard straight from the Ain’t Sisters’ mouths. 

MORiLLO bio-

With a desire to expand his opportunities across the music world, Zach moved to Los Angeles in 2012. He quickly found work as a touring drummer for internationally acclaimed artists RHYE, Childish Gambino, and Groundation and has traveled the world performing at the biggest and best festivals and venues like Coachella, Red Rocks, and The Hollywood Bowl. In addition, he has been creating and developing his own unique sound and identity through music production and djing. As ‘MORiLLO’, Zach has released a multitude of projects on established labels such as Gravitas Recordings, Muti Music, High Vibe Records, Tribal Trap, Hybrid Trap, Simplify, and Play Me Records. As he continues to build his project, Zach’s music has been celebrated by music lovers and DJ's on stages and at festivals around the world. MORiLLO released his latest LP The Dub Cartographer in summer 2025.

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Ain’t Sisters bio -

Fun, eclectic folk rock. Fronted by the deliciously androgynous duo Arrie Bozeman and Barb Carbon, the Aints deliver high-energy performances of their wildly diverse original music. Joined by the hardest working men in rock n Roll, Richie Jones on the Boom Chick thwackita whackita, and Justin Boudreau, aka BooDreamy, masterfully holding down the rhythm section and making everybody swoon with their gorgeous licks. Think Indigo Girls meets Dream Theater but with a little Birdcloud in the mix.

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MORiLLO x Peace Sine "Tribal Dub"

Ain't Sisters 11/11/22 Tree House

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It's not every day a decorated Grateful Dead historian/Jerry Garcia biographer slides thru the crib for a nearly 3-hour interview spread across 2 separate sessions. Such was the case over a few days in July when BLAIR JACKSON visited with your humble narrator right here in the ViBE Junkie Studios in Oakland, Ca! Author of 1999's extraordinary, bar-setting bio GARCIA: An American Life; publisher of pioneering GD fan-zine The Golden Road; journalist with BAM Magazine; author of The Music Never Stopped; co-author of This Is All A Dream We Dreamed (with David Gans), blogger at Dead.net; among many other endeavors. This here OG is nothing short of a pillar in chronicling all things GD culture, a deeply-researched and articulate authority on that lovable fat man and how the music played the band. All that said, this episode is bound to cover just a little more ground!

Eternal thanks to the grate Blair Jackson for his precious time, energy, integrity, thoughtful recollections & personal reflections.

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