The Vine with Joe & Katie Devine

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We talk through a month of real life highs and lows, from starting therapy to caring for MJ through her first stretch of sickness. Then we shift into “Count The Fruit,” reflecting on May’s Sunday Gospels and what they teach us about the Trinity, doubt, and living faith instead of over explaining it. 
• starting therapy and naming why it feels freeing 
• navigating anxiety when your baby gets sick 
• choosing a low stress anniversary trip and what it teaches us about family rhythms 
• why the May Gospels keep pointing back to the Trinity 
• faith and works as lived fruit rather than a scorecard 
• learning to love someone you cannot see and letting love reshape your expectations 
• the Ascension as power used for love not control 
• “they worshiped but they doubted” and making room for honest questions 
• Pentecost Sunday and the Catholic case for confession and apostolic succession 
• Trinity as mystery you can experience through liturgy, balance, and practice 
Let’s keep growing together. 

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We celebrate five years of marriage with a very on-brand Friday night in bed, sharing our highs and lows from this season of visitors, cleaning resets, baby sleep, and the return of doomscrolling. Then we open a box of old letters and read our teenage and engagement words out loud, laughing at the cringe while seeing the patterns that actually built our relationship.
• Peaks and pits from real life right now, including friendship in the same season and the joy of company
• Social media habits after Lent, doomscrolling, anxiety, and the small moments that trigger grabbing the phone
• The relief of a deep-clean reset, plus the unpredictability of baby sleep and naps
• Why we chose to read old letters for our anniversary and what we kept in the memory box
• The nine-day novena letters, fruits of the Holy Spirit, and preparing for marriage with intention
• Long distance, breakups, discernment, and how we learned to say what we meant
• Wedding day letters, the promises we made, and why faith keeps showing up in our story
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We record on a chaotic Sunday between Mass, naps, phone calls, and too many dogs, then get honest about what is stretching our marriage and our patience. We look back on “Take Root,” share why “Capacity” is our word for 2026, and talk about trusting God for the strength we need today. 
• peaks and pits from family visits, travel, and new parent life 
• the reality of overstimulation and managing a house full of dogs 
• why grandma’s 90th birthday feels like a witness of lived Catholic faith 
• what “Take Root” means after our fertility journey shifts into new life 
• learning that the only constant is change and faith is home 
• why our 2026 word is capacity and how it grows over time 
• surrendering control, daily manna, and carrying unexpected crosses 
• letting babies and parents be human instead of robots 
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We trade our usual studio feel for a family-farm recording with Deacon Dad and a very real background chorus of baby life, dogs, and interruptions. We dig into discernment, what a Catholic deacon actually does, and why saying yes often comes before you feel ready. 
• live-audience chaos and a quick family roll call 
• peaks and pits with newborn sleep and early mornings 
• praying the outdoor Stations of the Cross as a community 
• the first nudge toward the permanent diaconate 
• a Diocesan Youth Conference adoration moment that changed everything 
• what “deacon” means and how deacons serve alongside priests 
• why parishes can feel different while staying fully Catholic 
• Roman Rite structure and variety across languages and rites 
• why priests are usually celibate and why some are married 
• the vow permanent deacons take regarding celibacy after widowhood 
• capacity, humility, and “God help me” as a real prayer 
• deacon ministry as a couple and the hidden work of spouses 
• formation as a lifelong process shared with family and community 
• marriage meeting idiom quiz and the Chin-family phrase struggle 

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We pick up five months after Mary Jo’s birth and finally talk out loud about what the newborn season has felt like for us. The big surprise is how much bonding, confidence, and even our marriage grew through time, work, and a lot of messy learning. 

• catching up after a long break and naming this as a real-time processing talk 
• peaks and pits from the week and why change can feel so unsettling 
• the birth story from “is this labor?” to five centimeters dilated and a fast delivery 
• expectations for the golden hour compared to shock, pain, and the reality of holding a newborn 
• early bonding and why it can feel delayed for both moms and dads 
• the mental load of new parenthood and why everything feels high stakes at first 
• structure versus flexibility and how we’re learning what works for our family 
• trusting each other with solo parenting and building confidence by pushing ourselves 
• favorite baby products we actually use and would recommend 

Let’s keep growing together. 

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What happens when you've spent years praying for something that seems impossible? After nearly three years of struggling with infertility, we're finally ready to share our miracle—we're expecting our first child!

This journey has been filled with doctor appointments, medications, surgeries, tears, doubts, and ultimately, a deepening understanding of what hope truly means. As we celebrate our four-year wedding anniversary, we reflect on how we've grown individually and as a couple. We've learned that while time changes circumstances, those core qualities that drew us together at 16 still remain at the heart of our relationship.

The path to pregnancy wasn't simple. After endometriosis surgery and working with multiple doctors, we found ourselves at a crossroads—feeling defeated and ready to move on. Then came an appointment I almost canceled, with a doctor who offered a completely different approach. Instead of more tracking and supplements, she simply said, "Let me do it for you." That permission to release control became the unexpected gift we needed.

This episode explores more than just our pregnancy announcement. We dive into what it means to maintain hope when disappointment feels inevitable. By incredible coincidence, Katie was asked to lead a workshop on hope for our church before knowing she was pregnant. The framework she developed—recognizing what hope is, embarking on the journey of hope, looking for signs, and anchoring yourself in hope—became the compass that guided us through our darkest moments.

For anyone walking through infertility or any season of painful waiting, this one's for you. We've been where you are, and while everyone's story unfolds differently, we want you to know that hope truly does not disappoint—even when it takes forms we never expected.

Reflection:

Read the Pope Francis’ Bull of Indiction (Letter addressing the Jubilee Year of Hope) HERE: 

https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/bulls/documents/20240509_spes-non-confundit_bolla-giubileo2025.html

Have you experienced a season of waiting? 

How did you maintain hope?

Where do you “hide” your hope behind? 

How can you cling to God in the Hopelessness? 

 We'd love to hear your stories and continue growing together through this new chapter.

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Have you ever found yourself caught between hope and waiting, wondering how to share your struggles without feeling vulnerable? Join us on "The Vine" as we explore this emotional landscape with honesty and courage. This week, we kick things off with our "peak and pit" segment, sharing personal tales from the candy-strewn streets of Greenville to the communal joy of youth group retreats. With laughter and a touch of tummy troubles, we invite you to reflect on the highs and lows that make up the tapestry of our lives.

Our conversation takes a more poignant turn as we open up about the journey of coping with infertility, emphasizing the power of vulnerability and the need for honest dialogue. It's a topic that touches many, yet is often shrouded in silence. We navigate the fear of having our experiences minimized and highlight the transformative power of sharing our stories with those who truly understand. Inspired by spiritual guidance, we reach out with empathy, hoping to connect with listeners on similar paths and reassure them that their feelings are valid and they are not alone.

In our final segment, we unpack the power of hope and trust when facing life's uncertainties. Together, we explore the delicate balance between waiting and hoping, the struggle with control, and the solace found in faith and prayer. Reflecting on the wisdom of St. Pope John Paul II, we encourage embracing every challenge with courage and hope, no matter how daunting it may seem. Join us for a heartfelt journey that promises to lift your spirit and inspire you to face your own challenges with renewed strength and faith.

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The first day of October finds us buckling a car seat, grabbing microphones, and laughing through nerves as “baby day” finally arrives. Two weeks ago we thought labor had started—turns out it was two kidney stones at thirty‑six weeks—an ordeal that pushed us to ask better questions, lean on each other, and relearn the difference between bracing and trusting. From nesting wins to a quiet pilgrimage to the Shrine of Our Lady of La Leche in St. Augustine, we trace how grace threads through pain, humor, and ordinary preparation.

Our conversation moves through September’s Gospels with fresh eyes. Luke 14 confronts the true cost of discipleship and why “hating” sin actually makes room for deeper tenderness. John 3:16 on the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross reframes suffering with the serpent‑to‑cross arc: what once harmed can be lifted up and turned into hope. Then Luke 16 sneaks up on us—first with the “dishonest steward” as a jolting lesson in prudence and foresight, and then with the rich man and Lazarus, a stark warning about comfort, omission, and the people we stop seeing at our own gates.

We also share why we’re taking a short hiatus to welcome our daughter, how a 33‑day Marian consecration and the Litany keep our hearts steady, and why turning outrage into real conversation might be the most countercultural act of love right now. If you’re here for Catholic faith that’s lived, not performed—for practical holiness, honest marriage talk, and Scripture that reads your life back to you—you’ll feel at home with us. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs some courage, and leave a review to help others find the show. We’ll be back in the new year—pray for us, and we’ll be praying for you.

Litany of The Blessed Virgin Mary:

 https://www.nashvilledominican.org/prayer/litanies/litany-of-the-blessed-virgin-mary/

Joe's Resource for the Dishonest Steward: 

September Gospels: 

Luke 14:25-33

Great crowds were traveling with Jesus,
and he turned and addressed them,
“If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother,
wife and children, brothers and sisters,
and even his own life,
he cannot be my disciple.
Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after me
cannot be my disciple.
Which of you wishing to construct a tower
does not first sit down and calculate the cost
to see if there is enough for its completion?
Otherwise, after laying the foundation
and finding himself unable to finish the work
the onlookers should laugh at him and say,
‘This one began to build but did not have the resources to finish.’
Or what king marching into battle would not first sit down
and decide whether with ten thousand troops
he can successfully oppose another king
advancing upon him with twenty thousand troops?
But if not, while he is still far away,
he will send a delegation to ask for peace terms.
In the same way,
anyone of you who does not renounce all his possessions
cannot be my disciple.”

Love the creature, forget the creator - st augustine

John 3:13-17

Jesus said to Nicodemus:
"No one has gone up to heaven
except the one who has come down from heaven, the Son of Man.
And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert,
so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life."

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son,
so that everyone who believes in him might not perish
but might have eternal life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,
but that the world might be saved through him.

Feast of the exaltation of the cross. The “triumph of the cross”

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What does it mean to build a family with intention? As we prepare for the arrival of our daughter, we're diving into the meaningful (and sometimes challenging) conversations about what we want our family to stand for and how we'll approach raising our children.

Creating a family mission statement might sound like corporate jargon, but we're discovering it's a powerful way to align our values and set a course for our growing family. Joe's concise statement centers on being "a welcoming Catholic family spreading the gospel by intentionally living out God's word," while Katie's more detailed version emphasizes that family extends beyond blood relations, the importance of building each other up, and moving heavenward together as a team. As we work toward a combined statement, we realize that perhaps "Love God, love your neighbor, love your family" captures the essence of what matters most.

Beyond our mission statement, we explore our current thinking on everything from education choices to dating rules, cell phone policies to picky eating struggles. We're discovering that while we have ideas now, we'll likely need what Joe calls "bespoke parenting" – tailoring our approach to fit each child's unique needs rather than applying blanket rules. The conversation reveals our hopes, fears, and the values we want to instill, all while acknowledging that our perspectives will evolve as we gain experience as parents.

Whether you're just starting your family journey or well into raising children, join us for this honest, lighthearted conversation about creating a blueprint for family life. We'd love to hear what guides your parenting journey.

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August Sunday Gospels:

August 3rd - Luke 12: 13-21

August 10th - Luke 12: 32-48

August 17th - Luke 12: 49-53

August 24th - Luke 13: 22-30

August 31st - Luke 14: 1, 7-14

What does it mean to count the fruit in our spiritual lives? In this reflective episode, Katie and Joe dive deep into the August Gospels, uncovering a consistent theme that challenges comfortable Christianity. Together, they explore Jesus's urgent calls to readiness, proper prioritization, and genuine humility.

The conversation weaves through powerful parables – from the rich man building bigger barns to servants waiting for their master's return. "Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" emerges as a guiding light through these reflections, prompting us to examine what we truly value. Katie and Joe vulnerably share their own struggles with these teachings, including their tendency to prioritize friends over strangers and their wrestling with expectations in relationships.

Between scriptural insights, the hosts share personal updates that ground their spiritual discussion in everyday reality. Katie opens up about pregnancy challenges and finding unexpected acceptance in her workout community, while Joe recounts driving 2,200 miles in a week and their ongoing battle with a delayed refrigerator delivery. These honest glimpses into their lives create a relatable backdrop for profound spiritual truths.

The episode culminates in a beautiful recitation of the Litany of Humility, a prayer that perfectly encapsulates the themes explored throughout their gospel reflections. By asking for deliverance from desires for esteem, love, and approval, the prayer invites listeners to join in a countercultural approach to faith – one that prioritizes heavenly treasures over earthly recognition.

Whether you're looking to deepen your understanding of August's liturgical readings or seeking authentic conversation about faith amid life's complexities, this episode offers both spiritual nourishment and genuine companionship on the journey. Subscribe now and continue counting the fruit alongside Katie and Joe.

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