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In this episode, Lou continues his conversation with friend Ian Barford, the actor and  Brown-Douglass researcher. In this episode we discuss Ian's project on John Brown's relationship with Frederick Douglass and other black leaders of that period, including the impact that black nationalist archetypes had on Brown's thinking, and in turn how he responded in support of black self-determination. There is also some musing in regard to a trip to Kansas this past summer which they shared, both doing archive work as well as visiting historic sites.

If you're interested, you can read an article and see pictures from that Kansas trip on the John Brown Today blog by clicking on this link.

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