By Suzie Price The Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast
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Episode 122 of Wake Up Eager Workforce, "Mental Health Mastery for Wake Up Eager Leaders," features a powerful conversation with Dr. Nicholas Samstag on building psychological fluency to improve workplace dynamics. Suzie Price and Dr. Samstag discuss how leaders can develop emotional awareness and use it to handle workplace challenges effectively. They explore how our responses to colleagues often replicate early family dynamics, leading to "proxy conversations" that can obscure underlying issues. Dr. Samstag emphasizes the importance of recognizing these patterns and understanding that emotions, even anger, are valid and informative.
The discussion also delves into handling narcissistic behavior in professional settings, describing how a distorted self-relationship can complicate interactions. Lastly, they cover the impact of trauma, encouraging leaders to support emotional well-being in their teams. With insights on how feelings shape our interactions, this episode is packed with practical advice for leaders and anyone interested in fostering a psychologically healthy workplace. Tune in to learn how mastering these concepts can lead to more authentic connections and a stronger, more resilient work environment.
In this episode:
04:22 - Integrating Mental Health Support in Organizations Suzie Price and Nicholas Samstag delve into the topic of integrating mental health support in organizations, exploring Nicholas's diverse background and expertise in the field. They emphasize the significance of virtual work and practical therapy application in high-stress environments, highlighting the relevance of Nicholas's approach for corporations seeking a practical approach to therapy.
10:24 - Understanding Mental Health in the Workplace Samstag highlights the need to differentiate between severe mental illness and the broader spectrum of mental health experiences in the workplace. He emphasizes the impact of early family dynamics on behavior within institutional settings and suggests that institutions replicate family dynamics. Samstag also proposes creating a psychologically informed environment in the workplace and advocates for leaders to have psychological fluency.
20:48 - Understanding Proxy Conversations Samstag introduces the concept of proxy arguments and conversations, highlighting their prevalence in various relationships. He emphasizes the importance of understanding that these conversations are often triggered by deeper emotional issues and suggests that recognizing and engaging with them can lead to mutual benefit. Suzie also shares her perspective on the concept, expressing agreement with the idea of proxy statements and the detour method for addressing overreactions.
25:49 - Importance of Psychotherapy Samstag and Price share personal experiences and insights on the significance of psychotherapy, emphasizing its role in self-discovery and personal growth. They stress the importance of finding a trustworthy therapist and being open to discussing uncomfortable topics for deeper work.
32:15 - Discussion on Narcissism Price and Samstag engage in a detailed conversation about narcissism, delving into its historical roots and its manifestation in modern society. They highlight the importance of self-reflection and the impact of narcissism on relationships, business, and health, emphasizing the complexities of the diagnostic label and its implications.
38:16 - Dealing with Narcissism in the Workplace and Family Price and Samstag delve into the complexities of handling narcissistic individuals in professional and personal settings. They explore the challenges of questioning narcissists, the limited effectiveness of psychotherapy, and the potential scenarios in families where narcissistic individuals either dominate or face consequences for their behavior.
46:36 - Discussion on Trauma and Psychological Fluency Price and Samstag on the topic of trauma and its subjective nature, highlighting the significance of recognizing and addressing trauma in the workplace. They also discuss psychological fluency and the role of attributing feelings in making meaning, emphasizing the need for understanding individual experiences and emotions.
55:57 - Workplace Well-being and Leadership Price and Samstag delve into the significance of psychological well-being in the workplace, highlighting the role of leaders in fostering a supportive environment. They discuss the impact of leadership on employees' psychological awareness and the need for leaders to prioritize the holistic care of their teams.
Episode Description: In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price sits down with Neil Smith, former general manager of the New York Rangers, and Allan Hamernick, founder of CoreFive Analytics, to discuss how TriMetrix and Axiology assessments are being used in NHL scouting and player development. Whether you're in sports or business, this episode offers fascinating insights into selecting top talent and reducing risk in decision-making.
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In this episode:
[00:04:51 Suzie Price]: "Al uses this inventory of tools to help leaders understand who they’re hiring, who they’re scouting, and which draft picks to make by analyzing information you can’t get just by watching them play."
[00:06:17 Allan Hamernick]: "The core five tools we use are DISC, Motivators, Competencies, Axiology, and EQ. They give us a comprehensive picture of a person, from how they communicate to how they manage themselves emotionally."
[00:18:40 Neil Smith]: "It’s an unbelievably valuable tool for scouting in athletics. It adds a layer of insight that you just can’t get from watching players or hearing their stories."
[00:21:51 Neil Smith]: "In the 1989 draft, we took five players, two of whom became Hockey Hall of Famers, and it set Detroit up for ten to twelve years as a team."
[00:25:29 Neil Smith]: "The more information I can get about a person, the better chance I have of making the right decision. That goes for employment in business as well as athletics."
[00:29:45 Allan Hamernick]: "One team asked us, can you tell us what this player will be like if we give him $3 million two years from now? What’s he going to be like? And we were able to build an index for that."
[00:32:03 Allan Hamernick]: "We approach draft selection as risk management. You can't eliminate risk, but we help teams know what a player will need to work on and where they could potentially struggle."
[00:54:33 Suzie Price]: "We use these tools to reduce the risk in hiring and team decisions, but there’s always a risk because humans are complex beings."
[01:02:35 Neil Smith]: "Leadership on a team, in a company, or anywhere is critical. If you have an idiot for a leader, your company is going to fail."
[01:03:31 Suzie Price]: "The fish rots from the head down. That’s why the work you guys are doing is so important. It gives you such a competitive advantage."
Episode Description: In Episode 120 of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price interviews Tamara McLemore, a seasoned PMP instructor and executive consultant. Tamara shares how the PMP certification can empower professionals across industries, offering practical tools for project management and career advancement. She highlights the versatility of project management skills, emphasizing that everyone—from corporate professionals to homemakers—can benefit from them.
Tamara’s signature two-week PMP boot camp accelerates the learning process, helping participants pass the exam in 30 to 60 days. The episode also covers essential strategies for retaining information under pressure, such as creating a study schedule, embracing failure as part of learning, and leveraging community support. Tamara stresses the importance of balance and self-care, as well as finding the right community to support personal and professional growth.
This conversation will inspire anyone looking to elevate their project management skills and career trajectory.
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In this episode:
[00:06:16] Tamara McLemore: So the PMP is the project management professional certification and it is historically a certification for IT, government, military. HOWEVER, I have to say that with all caps, however, project management is for everybody. I mean healthcare, executive admins, education, you name it. Every industry is requiring project managers. Now you don't have to all get the certification if you don't want to. But my belief is that everybody is a project manager. The end. Period.
[00:07:52] Suzie Price: If you can't organize your day and your time, you're not waking up eager, which is my whole driver in life is to, you know, enjoy every day. And if everything is pure chaos, you're not going to enjoy every day and anything.
[00:09:25] Tamara McLemore: But what we found is project managers suck at managing people.
[00:18:32] Tamara McLemore: It is not about passing an exam. Yes, you're going to pass exam, but it is about showing up different. It is about utilizing your time. It is about working in your strengths. I'm a huge component of strength finders.
[00:21:25] Tamara McLemore: The first one is create a study schedule. Like we're scheduling everything. We're scheduling our vacations. We schedule what we're going to do on the weekends our kids, our nieces and nephews, our fur babies. We're scheduling everything. But for professional development, you're just going to wing it?
[00:22:05] Tamara McLemore: The second thing is, which is a project management methodology that I didn't realize I was doing until recently, is fail fast.
[00:30:16] Suzie Price: It becomes a part of the culture. And for executives and HR leaders thinking about this, make project management a part of the skill set for everybody.
[00:31:31] Tamara McLemore: So just doing things different, it's not a switch. You know how you flip a switch to turn a light off and on? It's a knob that we have to turn, and gradually, gradually, you know, change the way we're doing business.
[00:41:08] Tamara McLemore: I did know it. I just didn't know how to apply it. So I knew I could verbalize it, but the application, there was a disconnect and answering the questions.
[00:42:24] Tamara McLemore: I haven't had the Sunday night scaries in years and my people don't. Because with the PMP certification, the number one thing they have is options.
[00:51:51] Suzie Price: And your whole approach to PMP is outside the box. You know, that's a forward-looking approach that's working.
In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price sits down with Rene Critelli, Employee Success Manager at HUB International, to explore the leadership strategies that drive employee engagement and retention. Rene shares her journey, leadership tips, and how HUB International fosters a thriving, entrepreneurial culture even as it grows into a global powerhouse.
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Episode 119 of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price interviews Rene Critelli, an Employee Success Manager at HUB International, who offers insightful advice on leadership and employee engagement. Rene discusses her unique role, emphasizing the importance of leadership development and how HUB International uses tools like Trimetrix to enhance hiring, coaching, and team building. She highlights key leadership actions that contribute to employee success, including the significance of personalized communication, creating a feedback-rich environment, and maintaining an entrepreneurial spirit within a large organization. Rene also shares how HUB's decentralized approach and commitment to integrity and growth have fostered a culture that supports continuous learning and community involvement. The episode provides practical takeaways for leaders looking to improve employee retention and engagement.
In this episode:
[00:04:52] Suzie on the job title of Employee Success Manager
[00:05:32] Rene shares what led her to this role and more on her career journey to HUB International.
[00:08:25] Rene on her top focus of leadership development, because that's really where she feels that most of that employee experience and retention trickles down from.
[00:12:31] Suzie shares outsiders perspective on HUB International's entrepreneurial, high energy workplace.
[00:16:42] Rene on appreciating HUB's decentralized approach, where each region can operate autonomously.
[00:20:43] Rene on importance of talking to your employees and really getting to know them on a personal level.
[00:24:59] Suzie and Rene discuss the ideal meeting cadence and how this differs among employees.
[00:26:26] Rene speaks on HUB International's employee recognition program.
[00:35:40] Rene on using the side-by-side reporting during onboarding, particularly with the producer and account manager relationship,
[00:45:14] Rene chats about her non-profit and volunteer passions.
[00:52:11] Susie asks Rene who has been the most influential individuals in her career progression.
In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, host Suzie Price dives into the realm of practical thinking. Discover how mastering the ability to get things done immediately, thoroughly, and cheerfully can transform your professional and personal life. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed or looking to enhance your practical thinking skills, this episode is packed with valuable insights and actionable tips to help you achieve your goals with greater efficiency and joy.
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In Episode 118 of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price explores the critical skill of practical thinking, focusing on how to improve our ability to get things done immediately, thoroughly, and cheerfully. Practical thinking is one of the six key areas measured by the Trimetrix assessment, a tool used to enhance self-awareness and improve decision-making throughout the employee lifecycle.
Suzie begins by explaining the concept of practical thinking and why it matters. She emphasizes that practical thinking is essential for anyone feeling overwhelmed or looking to optimize their productivity. The episode provides a deep dive into real-life examples of individuals with high and low scores in practical thinking, including Suzie’s personal journey of transforming her own practical thinking skills.
Listeners are introduced to seven competency-based interview questions designed to assess practical thinking in candidates, along with three must-haves for coaching improvement: awareness, readiness, and knowledge. Suzie shares eight practical tools and exercises to enhance practical thinking, such as adopting a mindset mantra, maintaining an appreciation journal, and overcoming the planning fallacy.
One of the highlighted resources is David Allen’s "Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity," a methodology that helps individuals manage tasks and projects effectively. Suzie discusses the benefits of implementing this system and how it has personally helped her achieve a more organized and stress-free workflow.
The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of practical thinking in creating a wake-up eager life and workforce. Suzie encourages listeners to embrace the insights and tools shared to enhance their productivity and overall well-being.
In this episode:
[00:02:00] Insights on creating a Wake Up, Eager Workforce and using the Trimetrix assessment to pinpoint areas where there could be some gaps, as opposed to guessing where the challenge might be.
[00:04:32] Coaching improvement tips and information. We've got three must haves. Things you have to have in place in order for someone to even want to make improvement. [00:11:46] Dr. Hartman insight on becoming all that we can be. [00:32:54] A-R-K-T - A is awareness, R is readiness, K is knowledge, and T are the tools. [00:37:02] Remarkable results of those that participated in the gratitude journal. [00:45:26] How to get more organized and feel that less anxiety and frustration about getting things done. [00:48:10] The list of six and completing the day's most important tasks. [00:53:10] How to break large projects into smaller tasks. Be realistic about what you can accomplish, and don't be afraid to delegate.In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, I interview Terri Lonowski on the transformative power of "soulful listening." Terri, a communication visionary, shares insights on how listening deeply and being present can significantly impact personal and professional relationships.
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Drawing from her own experiences and the influence of her grandmother Helga, Terri introduces a holistic approach to listening that can unlock untapped potential in the workplace and beyond. The episode delves into the five key elements of soulful listening: self-care, becoming fully present, quantum listening, inspired action, and the feedback loop.
Terri's engaging storytelling and practical tips offer a refreshing perspective on fostering meaningful connections and improving communication.
In this episode:
[00:04:55] Soulful Listening: A holistic approach to deeper connection and communication, inspired by Terri's grandmother Helga.
[00:09:28] Becoming Fully Present: Essential for truly connecting with others.
[00:12:34] Self-Care: Foundation for quality communication and listening.
[00:15:53] Quantum Listening: A blend of active listening and empathy.
[00:17:40] Inspired Action: Taking meaningful actions based on listening.
[00:19:54] Feedback Loop: Ensuring the continuity of communication and action.
[00:26:44] Terri shares story of couple fully embracing soulful listening and having their best conversations during difficult period in their lives.
[00:33:15] Practical Applications: How these principles can be applied in personal and professional settings to create high-performing, low-drama teams.
[00:44:26] Personal Impact: Terri shares a powerful story about her son Jacob, illustrating the life-changing effects of soulful listening.
In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price engages in a fascinating conversation with Bobby Powers, Director of Learning & Development at Jitasa. Bobby brings over a decade of experience managing teams, building training programs from scratch at various startups and SMBs, and training over 100 managers and executives. He has also navigated teams through hypergrowth and layoffs, making him a seasoned leader in organizational development.
Bobby is a self-professed book nerd, reading over 70 books annually and sharing his insights on leadership, personal development, and communication on his blog, BobbyPowers.net. His work has been featured in numerous publications, reflecting his dedication to continuous learning and knowledge sharing.
Episode 116 discusses the "curse of knowledge," a concept that highlights the difficulty experts have in explaining complex topics simply. Bobby shares practical tips for overcoming this challenge, such as using analogies, breaking down information into manageable chunks, avoiding jargon, and checking for understanding. These strategies are essential for anyone looking to improve their communication skills, whether in leadership, teaching, or public speaking.
Bobby and Suzie also touch on the importance of effective leadership, emphasizing the need to understand and address the unique needs of team members. They explore the stoic philosophy, which encourages focusing on what one can control to reduce stress and increase satisfaction. This episode is packed with valuable insights for leaders, trainers, and anyone interested in enhancing their communication and leadership abilities.
In this episode:[00:06:52] Bobby Powers introduces the concept of the "Curse of Knowledge".
[00:09:50] Bobby Powers talks training with starting with what they know and then slicing the new content into very manageable chunks.
[00:13:11] Bobby Powers on Albert Einstein's quote "if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
[00:13:47] Suzie Price on the idea that all of us forget what it's like to first learn something. As our knowledge grows and we become more familiar with the nuances of a topic, it becomes harder to communicate the concepts simply.
[00:22:50] Bobby Powers shares his biggest passion in the world.
[00:29:03] Bobby Powers talks his steps to note taking and the S.U.B method.
[00:29:45] Suzie Price reviews Bobby's Talent Insights assessment and his Wake Up Eager strengths.
[00:47:06] Bobby Powers introduces Ryan Holiday's writings on stoic philosophy.
[00:58:13] Suzie Price recaps episode 116 and her chat with Bobby Powers.
Links & Resources:Related Podcasts and Articles:
Podcast Episode #112 Life and Work is About Impacting Others - Don't Be 'Relationship Lazy' with Amy Lugar - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/life-and-work-is-about-impacting-others-dont-be-relationship-lazy-with-amy-lugar.html
Podcast Episode #82 Onboarding with TriMetrix: Why and How It Works - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/onboarding-with-trimetrix.html?unique=16777234127646823
Podcast Episode #52 Activate Greatness: What Great Coaches and Leaders Do - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/activate-greatness.html
Five Tips to Slay the Curse of Knowledge: https://bobbypowers.net/curse-of-knowledge/
Made to Stick: https://bobbypowers.net/made-to-stick/
The Complete Beginner’s Guide to Using Obsidian as Your ‘Second Brain’: https://bobbypowers.net/beginners-guide-to-obsidian/
Related Services or Sample Reports or Images:Wake Up Eager Leader Coaching - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/corporate-leadership-coaching.html
Connect with Bobby:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbypowers1
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This special episode highlights the 2023 Robert S. Hartman Institute's Wisdom Council Panel discussion, featuring three legends of the field in Art Ellis, Ph.D., Steve Byrum, Ph.D., and Mark Moore,Ph.D. This podcast also includes clips from my short interviews with many conference participants.
In this episode:[00:00:01] Suzie Price: Today is a special episode. It is recording from the 2023 Robert S Hartman Institute conference was held in Atlanta, and it is a panel discussion with three legends. They are Hartman legends, they are Professor Legends. They are author legends, they are financial asset manager legends that all have the same thing in common is that we're students or colleagues with Robert S Hartman, who is the founder of one of the sciences in the assessment tools that we use. And it's a great discussion. You're going to learn a lot more about how to make better decisions. You're going to learn more about measuring your progress and being who you can be, how you use assessments, how you help other people make better decisions. You're going to learn from other consultants. Because I have short interviews with ten different conference attendees finding out more about them, how they use these tools in their work, why they use these tools. So if you are interested in any of that, you're going to enjoy this conversation. It's a very rich conversation. It's a very meaningful conversation. It's going to help you understand axiology and TriMetrix better. It will help you understand yourself better. Just lots of great insight here and I'm very excited to share it with you.
We had people from around the world and all over the United States. You know, it's not always easy for everyone to participate because of the travel. We've had virtual conferences where we've had much more than that at the conference, but it was great to have 50 or so people there, all of us calling ourselves heart maniacs. And basically what that is, is people who value and appreciate the work of Robert Hartman. And many of those people are consultants who use the tools like TriMetrix that we use, or they go by other names. There's other tools that use the same science. And this tool is the under the hood horsepower tool that we use in TriMetrix called acumen. The panelists are three of Hartman's colleagues and students, and I'm the moderator. The three voices that you'll hear. One is Art Ellis, Steve Byrum, and Mark Moore. They're all PhDs, and I'm going to share their complete bios with you. And when you hear them, you're going to say, wow, they really are legends. She was not overstating that. And then as I mentioned, we have these impromptu interviews with ten attendees, and they're talking about why they came to the conference, how they use Hartman's work, how that work has helped them personally and professionally. And what we did is we're inserting the clips of those conversations throughout the panel discussion.
Mark Moore: Well, I'm like everyone else. I'm no good at predicting the future, and I wouldn't pretend to do so. And and as you know, I don't think the future can be predicted anyway. However, however, we can prepare for a better future, and the way we do that is through, I think, understanding people like Robert Hartman. I go back to this as I think about the world, something I'll go back to time and time again. And I've even coined a little expression for it, uh, distributive justice, which is something axiology is wonderfully adept at talking about distributive justice, which means bringing the best justice you can for all peoples is not a zero sum game. In other words, you don't get distributive justice by taking from one group to give to another.
Steve Byrum: I think it's very interesting that we can't predict the future, but I would claim that Hartman was pretty prophetic about some of these things we're talking about right now, the title of this small book that we should be so proud to have in our possession, and we should make sure it gets in the hands of as many people as we can. The Revolution Against War is a kind of an ironic title in a way, because most of the writing that was done in that book was done after World War Two. When we felt like that, we had finally learned the lesson of where wars could take us. And for Hartman then to write a [00:20:00] revolution against war in the aftermath of of all the enthusiasm of this war coming to an end again may seem a little bit ironic, but I believe what Hartman understood was that the conditions that have maybe always led to war, but certainly had led to the Second World War were still there, and that the conditions may, in fact, have been there in the late 40s and early 50s in ways that were maybe more abundant than even in the times that Mark's talking about. And obviously what Hartman was talking about and what scared him passionately was the way that technology had exploded in scientific culture and given us a nuclear, given us a nuclear capacity, which of course has grown and grown.
Steve Byrum: I usually come with some kind of inane way of trying to explain how Hartman's hierarchy of value, and I can say systemically, the person I'm married to is a female. I can say extrinsically she's of a certain age and certain height, certain weight, certain hair color, although she can't remember what it originally was. But then I'll say, you know, she's the love of my life. And so suddenly you're able to get people on to understanding a simple way the movement from systemic to extrinsic to intrinsic. And when those words start becoming a part of people's conversation, you know, you've put an anchor down. Yeah. And I try to say to people and this makes a lot of sense today, I'll say, you know, your GPS systems that get you from one place to another are at least based on three satellites. It may be more than that, but at least three triangulate where you are. And I try to tell people, go out into the world and try to understand that you've got a lens or an eye that can look at things systemically. You've got a lens and an eye that can look at things extrinsically. You've got a lens, an eye that can look at things intrinsically.
Art Ellis: It should be possible for every one of us to use value science in our own lives, without calculus and without complicated formula. We need only learn how to apply the yardstick, he says, of intrinsic value. And then he's talking about the hierarchy of values to life around us and within us, which is exactly what Steve just said. And that's what you may have heard me. If you've been around me any time in the past several years, that's what I rather hear religiously called informal axiology. Not formal, but informal. It's when it is at work in people's lives, and it doesn't really matter whether they know it's axiology or not, if it works. And so, you know, that's really the golden thing. We want that out in our world. At the same time, we want not to forget that we need to also develop. We don't want Hartman to get lost in this. You know, we've got to keep Hartman some vein of what we do and what's carried on into the future has got to still be connected with him.
Mark Moore: Well, I first of all, I want to thank Steve for his wonderful story and Art for his wonderful story. I don't have a story like that. I wish I did, but I'm happy I don't. Bob wanted me to take the profile I was happy to do so. I don't care, but what the hell? I'm. I'm really. I'm really interested in this man. I'm interested in his science. But my dream was to become an academician, and I wanted to study. I was a physics major as an undergraduate. I cared about science, but I was not more interested in the philosophy of science than I was actually laboratory work. And so my major professor is my my undergraduate school said, you know, you really should study philosophy of science. I think that'd be great for you. Uh, and you might even be able to get a job teaching it or something. Who knows? So I was doing that, and and I was studying formal logic and some advanced mathematics because, you know, science requires the, the systemic tools in order to do things. And, uh, uh, so I was very interested in, in formal axiology. So Bob gave me the profile. He and he put it aside after going over it and he said, Mark, you can do whatever you want to do. Uh, you know, you've got one of those profiles that you can you can do things. What do you want to do? And I told him what my vision was, and he said, well, why why are you studying here with me? I said, because I think your science is really special and it really can be a science, but it's got some problems.
Suzie Price: So how did you like the episode? Did you feel like you got to know Hartman more? Could you see how many people around the world are using the tool as a consultants? Talk about how they used it and some of their passion. I'm not the only one who's passionate about about the assessment, so I hope you got what I wanted you to get from it, which is a deeper understanding of who Hartman was, the impact that he had. And so I'm going to the next thing I'm going to do, I'm going to give you a few little things about my favorite parts that I want to just highlight. I always do the Susie takeaways. I want to make sure you capture those because I heard all this, I was present, but I sure did like seeing the audio and then actually wanting to reremember some of these insights. So some of the key points that I think are great takeaways for life and for consulting. After I share these things, then I'm going to go into axiology what it is and more about Hartman's history so you can understand that. But a couple of key points. One thing that Art talks about and I think is so important to remember is all progress is progress forward, even if it's a little bit, don't discount it. You are still moving forward. That is from a book factfulness that that Art quotes a bit because it's a it's a great book.
Suzie Price: It's part of explains why it's it's a measurement of judgment, and it's a measurement of how we think, feel and make decisions. Mark Moore talks about that. Hartman was a magical, magical figure whose memory not only deserves to be revered, but his presence needs to be perpetuated. And I would say that they're doing that in the work that they do. The way each person shows up, their humor, their kindness that is perpetuating what they saw in Robert Hartman.
Suzie Price: And I can remember Hartman using the terms x ray of the soul. And it really, you know, revealed a great deal of. The structure of my internal and external life. That's what Axiology does. And so he said, and I thought, this is the kind of probably a good closer on this is that the Hartman value profile represents those three dimensions in axiology, which is the systemic, extrinsic and intrinsic. It's how we think, do and be.
Links & Resources:Related Podcasts:
Episode #114 Unlocking the Power of Practical Axiology: Making Better Decisions for a Better World - Art Ellis, Ph.D. - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/unlocking-the-power-of-practical-axiology.html
Episode #75 Axiology Influencers: Why Robert S. Hartman's Work Matters Today - A Discussion with Steve Byrum, Ph.D. - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/axiology-influencers-steve-byrum.html
Episode #74 Axiology Influencers: Why Robert S. Hartman's Work Matters Today - A Discussion with Licensed Professional Counselor Art Ellis, Ph.D. - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/axiology-influencers-artellis.html
Episode #73 Axiology Influencers: Why Robert S. Hartman's Work Matters Today - A Discussion with K.T. Connor, PhD - https://www.pricelessprofessional.com/axiology-influencers-ktconnor.html Hartman Institute Journal of Formal Axiology: https://www.hartmaninstitute.org/journal-of-formal-axiology Hartman Institute Bookstore: https://www.hartmaninstitute.org/bookstore 2024 Hartman Institute Conference: Empowering Transformation with Axiology https://www.hartmaninstitute.org/2024-annual-conference The Life of Robert S. Hartman: https://www.hartmaninstitute.org/life-of-robert-s-hartman
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In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price speaks with return podcast guest Art Ellis, Ph.D., on Unlocking the Power of Practical Axiology. The two discuss Dr. Robert Hartman's "Freedom to Live", outlining Hartman's journey and the foundations of practical Axiology.
Art Ellis discusses the legacy of Robert Hartman, who developed Axiology after escaping the atrocities of Hitler, striving to create a structure that organizes good. They explore the origins of the manuscript, its purpose in relation to seminars with Nationwide Insurance Company, and Hartman's personal journey from surviving in Germany during World War II to becoming a philosopher in the United States.
Ellis shares his passion for reading multiple books at once, ranging from deep philosophical works to entertaining mysteries. He also mentions his addiction to playing Wordle and his ability to solve it in three or four guesses.
The two discuss health, spirit, and wisdom, and engage in a conversation about maintaining a healthy lifestyle, including dietary preferences and physical activities. They also delve into the significance of travel on their spirits and share their involvement in music and storytelling.
Additionally, Ellis reflects on the advice he would give his younger self, emphasizing the importance of learning about family history and interacting with significant individuals.
The podcast delves into the concept of infusing artificial intelligence with a value-based decision-making process, contemplating the potential implications for the future. They consider the idea of incorporating a Hartman value axiology model algorithm into AI and emphasize the importance of ensuring that AI decisions are based on a calculus of values, including intrinsic, extrinsic, and systemic factors.
In this episode:[00:00:01] Suzie Price: Today I'm talking with licensed professional counselor Art Ellis, Ph.D. You're going to want to tune in today if you love to learn about others journeys. If you want to feel more hope about the world, if you're curious about the idea that we can measure how we think, feel, and make decisions. If you want to know more about Axiology and try metrics. If you like being inspired by others, you're going to learn more about Robert Hartman's story of escaping Hitler and using the trauma of watching Hitler organize evil, and taking that and turning it into creation of a structure that organizes good, which is what Axiology is. [00:12:35] Art Ellis: So he came up with the idea of good, the meaning of good of a thing is that it is what it is supposed to be. And in philosophical terminology, or in fact, mathematical terminology, it means it has all of the properties that it is supposed to have. If it is the best thing it can be, it has all of them.
[00:20:30] Suzie Price: Other philosophers have usually found intrinsic value only in universal, repeatable qualities like pleasure, knowledge, virtue, law, creativity, but not an individual. So that is, you know, when you talk about intrinsic and I think that's where people's hearts get touched through Hartman's work is this understanding of intrinsic and the value of it. And I think that's one of the differentiators. Not only does he talk about how we think and help us understand the ordering principle for our lives, but then he talks about the richness of intrinsic and helps us remember something. And it apparently, before he started talking about it the way he did back in the 1960s, that was not a common practice.
[00:43:35] Art Ellis: Then we have to take those numbers and turn them into a person. Because we're not doing an assessment to see what's wrong with this person. We're doing an assessment to look at a reflection of this person and our working with those numbers in our descriptions and our our speculations about what this kind of score, combination and pattern means. We have to turn that back into a real person. So, you know, that's the three elements of working with it.
[00:55:50] Suzie Price: So see what happens. Yes. So you had quite a journey to get approval, and maybe we could just tell a short version of that where I don't know what age you were at the time, but you basically on your own dime and dollar and time, tracked Rita Hartman down to get approval to publish this. [01:05:56] Art Ellis: Was a major thing, I think, when the Institute was able to get the copyright back and issue the second edition, because it made it much more accessible to people who were coming along who needed to see this. And it's great grounding for anybody who is a practitioner to get enough of a sense of what formal axiology is all about and what Hartman was all about to use this background in for the applications that you put it to use. So it's great. Yeah. Kind of grounding.
[01:09:48] Art Ellis: He says the same kind of evil represented by Hitler in his contempt and hate for other people is present in the US today. And he's writing this in the 60s.
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In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price shares invaluable insights on the art of conducting effective interviews for hiring managers. Emphasizing the importance of finding the right fit to mitigate the risk of a bad hire, Suzie introduces a structured approach to enhance interviewing and hiring skills. This episode is a treasure trove for anyone involved in hiring, offering practical tools and strategies to improve the selection process.
Key highlights include the introduction of the F.I.T process, which stands for Figure out what the job needs, Interview plan and strategy, and Targeted interviewing and selection process. Suzie explains how creating a hiring template can significantly contribute to understanding job requirements beyond just resumes and backgrounds. The importance of having a well-communicated interview plan to prepare the interview team is underscored, promoting a unified approach to candidate evaluation.
Suzie delves into targeted interviewing techniques, advocating for competency-based questions that reveal candidates' true potential and fit for the role. The discussion also touches on common interviewing mistakes such as over-reliance on gut feeling and unstructured interviews, offering solutions to avoid these pitfalls.
Listeners are encouraged to embrace the episode's guidance to create a high-commitment, low-drama workforce. By focusing on fit, utilizing structured interview processes, and employing effective evaluation techniques, organizations can significantly improve their hiring outcomes, ensuring a Wake Up Eager Workforce that aligns with their goals and values.
In this episode:[00:00:01] Today we're talking about how to conduct an interview. This is for every hiring manager out there. If you are interviewing people for a position, you are going to want to tune into this episode.
[00:01:07] Help leaders and organizations make good decisions about their people.
[00:02:50] Suzie speaks about structure and clarity in the interview process.
[00:07:09] Oftentimes we don't want to actually learn the structure until we've suffered from the pain of a poor hire.
[00:12:33] Look for more than the resume in the background.
[00:16:34] The other top interview mistake is we have unconscious bias.
[00:19:27] Importance of figuring out their roads traveled and aspirations.
[00:22:57] Suzie talks about creating a hiring template.
[00:29:45] How clarity allows hiring managers to all talk about the job in the same way.
[00:40:32] Setting the right tone and making the company stand out at the end of the interview.
[00:45:21] Eliminating distractions during the interview process.
[00:49:14] How to listen agressively.
[00:52:45] The 75/25 rule in interviewing.
[00:55:32] Recapping the interview process.
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