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What if the thing keeping you from your next level isn't another strategy you haven't learned yet?
What if it's the woman underneath the strategy?
In this episode of The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast, I sit down with subconscious expander and healer Kiki Neag for a conversation about subconscious programming, identity, intuition, business, money, healing and what it actually takes to evolve.
And this conversation GOES places.
Kiki shares the deeply personal experiences that led her into subconscious work and eventually into helping women expand their businesses. We talk about the patterns we carry without realizing it, the ways our past can influence how visible we're willing to become, how much we're willing to receive and what we're actually capable of holding.
Because you can have the strategy.
You can know your astrology.
You can know your Human Design.
You can meditate, journal, tap, visualize and pray.
But at some point… you still have to move.
We talk about the difference between intuition and urgency, why an idea sometimes needs time to incubate before you bring it into the world, and why constantly searching for the next strategy can actually disconnect you from your own knowing.
We also get into something I think the spiritual and personal-development world desperately needs to talk about more:
Healing can become another form of hiding.
You don't need to be completely healed before you launch the thing, change your business, raise your prices, tell the truth, become more visible or step into the next version of yourself.
Sometimes the next layer is revealed because you moved.
And sometimes what looks like a "quantum leap" from the outside was actually someone working through fear, changing boundaries, making uncomfortable decisions, failing, pivoting, getting back up and continuing to become the person capable of holding more.
IN THIS EPISODE, WE TALK ABOUT:One of my favorite pieces of this conversation is the reminder that the work isn't about becoming some perfectly healed version of yourself.
It's about knowing yourself deeply enough to recognize what's happening when the next layer appears — and having the tools, self-trust and willingness to actually do something with what you see.
Because manifestation without movement is just wishing.
Self-awareness without application doesn't change your life.
And your next level isn't asking you to become someone completely different.
It may be asking you to release the identities, protection mechanisms and old stories that no longer belong in the version of your life you're trying to create.
EXPERIENCE KIKI'S WORKKiki Neag is a subconscious scaling mentor, healer, business strategist and founder of House of Legends.Combining deep subconscious work with strategy, marketing, intuition and identity, Kiki helps her clients move through the thing underneath the thing, so they can scale faster, hold more and build businesses around who they truly are.
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I think spiritual community needs to work equally on discernment.
We've gotten really good at looking for signs, reading energy, pulling cards, checking transits, listening to our intuition, noticing synchronicities and paying attention to what feels “aligned.”
But receiving information and knowing what to do with that information are two very different things.
You wake up feeling off. Is it the Full Moon? Are you picking up someone else's energy? Is your intuition trying to tell you something?
Maybe.
Or maybe you slept like shit, haven't eaten, are overstimulated, have something emotionally going on, or simply need a minute.
Both can exist.
And THAT is where discernment comes in.
In this episode of The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast, we're talking about what it actually means to be discerning in your spiritual practice—and why I believe discernment might be one of the most important parts of developing a deeper relationship with yourself.
Because not every thought is intuition.
Not every uncomfortable feeling means you're out of alignment.
Not every fear means you're supposed to push through it.
Not every synchronicity requires action.
Not everything that “resonates” with you is necessarily true.
And not every Reel that magically appears on your feed saying “if you're seeing this, this message is for you” was personally delivered by the Universe.
Sometimes the algorithm is just algorithm-ing.
This doesn't mean we have to throw out intuition, energy, astrology, synchronicity or spirituality.
I clearly believe there is SO much more happening around us than what we can physically see.
But being open to something and blindly believing everything are not the same thing.
Information is not automatically instruction.
And this is where I bring Human Design into the conversation.
We talk about Strategy and Authority and how Human Design gives us a framework for understanding not only how we interact with life, but how we are designed to move through decisions.
Some people need time before clarity arrives.
Some have an immediate bodily response.
Some experience a quiet instinct in the moment.
Some discover clarity through hearing themselves speak.
And for some, environment and even the passage of time become important parts of the process.
There isn't necessarily one universal way we should all be making decisions.
But I also don't want Human Design to become another system you hand your power over to.
Learn your Strategy.
Learn your Authority.
Learn your astrology.
Pull the card.
Notice the synchronicity.
Listen to the teacher.
Read the book.
Take in the information.
And then pay attention to yourself.
Because your lived experience is information too.
We also get into the difference between fear and intuition, why discomfort doesn't automatically mean something is wrong—or right—the difference between using someone as a sounding board and asking them to make your decisions for you, and why sometimes one of the most discerning things you can say is:
“I don't know yet.”
You don't need to make every feeling mean something.
You don't need to turn every sign into an assignment.
You don't need to immediately know what every experience is trying to teach you.
And you certainly don't need someone outside of you constantly interpreting your life for you.
The deeper I go into astrology, Human Design and this work, the more I believe these tools should help us become more connected to ourselves—not more dependent on the tools.
Discernment is learning how to receive information, sit with it, question it, experience it, and ultimately decide what deserves your trust.
Because spirituality, at least for me, was never supposed to teach you how to outsource your knowing.
It was supposed to help you come back into relationship with it.
Click HERE and fill out the information for your birthdate, time and location to access your free chart.
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If you're ready to understand yourself on a deeper level through astrology, Human Design, and the cycles of becoming, join us inside iORIGINS: The Becoming Collective.
A living transmission for women ready to stop searching for themselves and start becoming themselves.
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
Click HERE purchase your Natal Chart Reading $222.
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
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What if the reason you can't stick to the routine, strategy, morning practice, content schedule, wellness protocol, or manifestation method has less to do with your discipline...and more to do with the fact that you borrowed a system built around someone else?
We are surrounded by formulas for how to live better.
Wake up at 5 AM. Follow this morning routine. Post this many times a week. Manifest this way. Structure your business like this. Be more consistent. Try harder.
And when we can't maintain it, somehow the conclusion becomes: I'm the problem.
In this episode of The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast, I'm unpacking our obsession with discipline and why I think self-understanding needs to come before self-correction.
We're talking about the difference between learning from someone and attempting to replicate their entire operating system, why another person's success doesn't automatically make their strategy right for you, and how astrology and Human Design can give us a much more individualized framework for understanding ourselves.
I also get into the other side of this conversation because knowing your design isn't permission to explain yourself out of growth. Your birth chart and Human Design are not excuses. They are information.
Information you can combine with the actual evidence of your life.
When do you have the most energy?
What environments change the way you work?
What structures genuinely support you?
Where are you forcing consistency that has never been sustainable?
And where might you actually benefit from more structure?
Your patterns are data.
And when you stop immediately labeling those patterns as lazy, inconsistent, unmotivated, undisciplined, or “bad,” you can finally become curious enough to understand them.
Your life is the laboratory. Astrology and Human Design give you additional language for studying what you find.
Because the goal isn't to become better at forcing yourself to operate like everyone else.
It's to understand yourself well enough to build a life that knows what to do with the person you actually are.
Click HERE and fill out the information for your birthdate, time and location to access your free chart.
Click HERE to learn more about the LIVE event.
If you're ready to understand yourself on a deeper level through astrology, Human Design, and the cycles of becoming, join us inside iORIGINS: The Becoming Collective.
A living transmission for women ready to stop searching for themselves and start becoming themselves.
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
Click HERE purchase your Natal Chart Reading $222.
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
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We have officially entered Virgo season and after everything Leo season and eclipse season have brought to the surface, I don't think Virgo could have arrived at a better time.
We've had the realizations. We've seen things differently. We've gotten honest about what we're ready to release, what we want, who we're becoming and where we've been getting in our own damn way.
Now we have to live it.
Because eventually the spiritual work has to become practical.
The realization has to become a choice.
The choice becomes a behavior.
The behavior becomes a pattern.
And those patterns become our lives.
In this episode, I'm breaking down Virgo season beyond the usual organization, routines and perfectionism conversation. We're talking about integration, discernment, devotion, nervous system capacity and the tiny choices that actually buld shit.
I'm also walking you through the major astrology happening throughout Virgo season- including the Pisces Lunar Eclipse, Jupiter trine Saturn, the Virgo New Moon, Uranus stationing retrograde and some BIG shifts with Mercury and Venus—and what you may notice coming up personally and collectively as we move through it.
We get into the shadow side of Virgo too: overthinking, overanalyzing, constantly trying to “fix” yourself and the sneaky way self-improvement can sometimes become another way of telling yourself you're still not enough.
Because there is a huge difference between refining your life because you love yourself and constantly trying to improve yourself because you don't believe who you are right now is enough.
If you're ready to understand yourself on a deeper level through astrology, Human Design, and the cycles of becoming, join us inside iORIGINS: The Becoming Collective.
A living transmission for women ready to stop searching for themselves and start becoming themselves.
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
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"The life you're praying for cannot be built by the identity you're clinging to."
How do we embody the freedom, confidence, abundance, and liberation that already live within us?
We choose to.
In this episode, Shelly explores one of the most transformative shifts we can make—not changing what we do, but changing who we believe ourselves to be.
So often we wait for clarity, confidence, or the "right time" before stepping into the life we desire. We tell ourselves that one day we'll finally feel ready, healed, or aligned enough to become the version of ourselves we've been dreaming about.
But what if becoming doesn't happen one day?
What if becoming happens one choice at a time?
In this conversation, Shelly weaves together astrology, neuroscience, identity, and the nervous system to explore why lasting transformation isn't about finding yourself—it's about consciously building yourself. She explains how our identities shape our habits, why the nervous system resists unfamiliar versions of ourselves, and how Eclipse Season offers a powerful opportunity to release outdated identities and step into a more authentic expression of who we are.
Whether you're standing at a crossroads, feeling the pull toward something greater, or simply sensing that the life you've built no longer fits the woman you're becoming, this episode is an invitation to embrace what Shelly calls The Pivot Point—the sacred space between who you've been and who you're here to become.
As we move through one of the most transformational astrological windows of the year—from the Leo Total Solar Eclipse (August 12) to the Pisces Partial Lunar Eclipse (August 27)—you're invited to journey through The Portal of Becoming, a free 17-day guided experience designed to help you embody the woman you're becoming.
Together we'll move through the stages of transformation with daily practices that gently integrate change into your everyday life. Through guided journaling, meditation, EFT tapping, mirror work, nervous system regulation, breathwork, embodiment practices, rituals, and intentional reflection, you'll learn to work with this eclipse portal rather than simply observe it.
This isn't about predicting your future.
It's about consciously participating in your evolution.
Because the greatest transformation doesn't happen from consuming more information.
It happens when you repeatedly choose thoughts, habits, beliefs, and actions that align with the woman you're becoming.
Inside your free experience you'll receive:
The portal has already begun.
The only question is...
Who will you choose to become on the other side?
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If you're ready to understand yourself on a deeper level through astrology, Human Design, and the cycles of becoming, join us inside iORIGINS: The Becoming Collective.
A living transmission for women ready to stop searching for themselves and start becoming themselves.
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
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What if your birth chart wasn't simply describing who you are... but revealing who your soul came here to become?
In this episode of The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast, I sit down with evolutionary astrologer Jill Brown for a powerful conversation on astrology, soul evolution, karma, healing, and the spiritual signs that remind us we're never walking this path alone.
Jill shares her incredible journey from NASA research scientist to certified Evolutionary Astrologer, revealing how her daughter's extraordinary past-life memories became the catalyst that changed the trajectory of her life forever.
Together, we explore how astrology can become one of the greatest tools for self-awareness, healing, and personal transformation.
Your birth chart is not your limitation—it is your roadmap.
The challenges you experience often point directly toward your greatest gifts.
Evolutionary astrology offers a deeper understanding of karmic themes, soul contracts, and personal transformation.
Saturn and Chiron aren't here to punish you—they're here to help you mature, heal, and align with your highest path.
The Universe is always communicating with us through synchronicities, symbols, and signs—if we're willing to pay attention.
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@EightStarsAstrology
Be sure to check out her upcoming offerings, including her Chiron course and additional evolutionary astrology resources.
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This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
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For the woman who's ready to understand herself on a deeper level.
This personalized experience includes everything you need to begin working with your unique astrological blueprint:
• A 50+ page personalized natal chart report
• An easy-to-reference Astrology Cheat Sheet
• Your digital Personalized Transit Calendar to help you navigate the year ahead with confidence
Discover your strengths, challenges, soul purpose, and the timing of your life so you can make aligned decisions with greater clarity.
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Leo season is here, and this isn't just another astrology forecast.
This season is jammed packed with potental and opportuny but you have to learn HOW to see it to make use of it all!
In this episode, we're exploring the major astrological transits shaping Leo season and how to consciously work with their energy to become more confident, authentic, and aligned with your highest timeline.
We'll discuss why this season isn't about becoming someone new—it's about becoming more fully yourself.
This episode about helping you understand the energetic weather so you can move through this season with greater intention, awareness, and trust.
When you understand the timing, you stop resisting change and begin working with it.
If you're ready to understand yourself on a deeper level through astrology, Human Design, and the cycles of becoming, join us inside iORIGINS: The Becoming Collective.
A living transmission for women ready to stop searching for themselves and start becoming themselves.
Click Here to Sign Up
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
I use OPEN almost daily for meditation, breathwork, movement, and nervous system regulation. It's one of my favorite tools for turning insight into embodiment.
Try it FREE for 30 days, and if you love it, use code SHELLY30.
Try OPEN Free for 30 Days
For the woman who's ready to understand herself on a deeper level.
This personalized experience includes everything you need to begin working with your unique astrological blueprint:
• A 50+ page personalized natal chart report
• An easy-to-reference Astrology Cheat Sheet
• Your digital Personalized Transit Calendar to help you navigate the year ahead with confidence
Discover your strengths, challenges, soul purpose, and the timing of your life so you can make aligned decisions with greater clarity.
Order Your Astro Insight PDF: HERE
The Summer Solstice marks the longest day of the year—a sacred threshold where the light reaches its peak and illuminates what is ready to be seen, healed, released, and claimed.
In this episode of The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast, Shelly explores the deeper meaning of the Solstice as a portal of remembrance rather than achievement. Together we'll explore why this season is asking us to stop abandoning ourselves, trust the voice of our becoming, and move toward the life that has been calling us all along.
This week's astrology supports that journey in powerful ways:
☀️ Sun Sextile Chiron
The light meets the wound. Old stories, patterns, and insecurities may surface—not to hurt you, but to show you the wisdom you've gained through them. This is an opportunity to see yourself through the lens of compassion rather than criticism.
♀ Venus Trine Saturn
A beautiful aspect for creating lasting value. This energy reminds us that self-worth isn't something we discover—it's something we practice. Through boundaries, devotion, consistency, and commitment, we build lives that reflect what we truly value.
♂ Mars Sextile Jupiter
Courage meets opportunity. This is supportive energy for taking action, making bold moves, sharing your voice, and saying yes to expansion. The door may not stay open forever. What wants your action now?
Inside this episode we discuss:
The Summer Solstice is not asking you to become someone new.
It is asking you to remember who you were before the world told you who to be.
If you're ready to understand yourself on a deeper level through astrology, Human Design, and the cycles of becoming, join us inside iORIGINS: The Becoming Collective.
A living transmission for women ready to stop searching for themselves and start becoming themselves.
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
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Erin Claire Jones is one of the world's leading experts in Human Design. Through her coaching, content, and digital products, she has empowered hundreds of thousands of people to overcome their biggest obstacles and find their flow at work, in love, and in life. Her personalized guides have been purchased by customers in over 160 countries. She has spoken on stages across the world, and her work has been featured in Forbes, Elle, The Sunday Times, Vogue, Allure, Nylon and more. Her bestselling book How Do You Choose? with HarperCollins came out in 2025 and was named one of Amazon's best books of the year.
LIVE June 20th Workshop Beyond Your Sun Sign: Using Astrology As A Map For Personal Growth in person and Virtual Tickets available CLICK HERE
LIVE July 18th Workshop The Alchemized Woman with Legal and Wealthy Organization CLICK HERE
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
If this episode hit for you, share it and tag me
I love seeing what's landing and what ya'll are into.
We live in a world that teaches people to suppress, fix, numb, analyze, distract from, and spiritualize their emotions instead of actually listening to them.
But what if your emotions were never the interruption?
What if they were the invitation?
In this episode of The Woo-Woo Woman, Shelly dives deep into the emotional underworld—the grief, anxiety, anger, uncertainty, and emotional heaviness so many people are quietly carrying right now—and reframes emotions not as evidence that something is wrong with you, but as portals into deeper truth, healing, identity shifts, and self-awareness.
This episode explores:
Shelly also weaves together themes of embodiment, astrology, nervous system awareness, intuition, and self-trust in a grounded and deeply human way.
If you've been feeling emotionally activated, uncertain, exhausted, disconnected, or like your old identity no longer fits… this episode is for you.
Key Takeaways:
Memorable Quotes:
“Your emotions are not interrupting your evolution. They ARE the evolution.”
“Healing isn't becoming emotionless. It's becoming emotionally honest.”
“Sometimes darkness means your old vision no longer works for where your soul is trying to take you.”
This is where we go deeper.
Your chart isn't here to describe you—
it's here to develop you.
Inside iORIGINS, we decode your Astrology + Human Design to align your life, business, and identity with who you're actually meant to be.
Explore iORIGINS: HERE
For the woman who is done circling the same patterns.
This is deep, personalized work where we:
Apply for 1:1: HERE
If this episode hit for you, share it and tag me
I love seeing what's landing and what ya'll are into.
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The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast with Shelly Saunier
Ready to awaken the mystic within and manifest a life that's wildly aligned?
The Woo-Woo Woman Podcast is your sanctuary for real spiritual talk, cosmic truth bombs, and practical tools for soul-led living. Hosted by Shelly Saunier—transformative astrologer, Human Design guide, intuitive channel, and sacred disruptor—this show is where the mystical gets real and the woo becomes your way of life.
Here, we go deep. We get raw. And we don't sugarcoat the spiritual.
If you're craving:
- Astrology decoded for your actual life—not just your sun sign
- Human Design strategies that help you build a business (and life) that feels like you
- Moon rituals, energy forecasts, and cosmic shifts explained in a way that lands
- Sacred rebellion against burnout, self-doubt, and the spiritual status quo
- Conversations that crack you open and help you trust your own power
…you're in the right place.
This podcast is for the soul-led woman who's done dimming her light.
You're not here to play small. You're here to remember who you are, reclaim your energy, and rise in alignment with your soul's design.
Each episode offers cosmic insight, channeled guidance, and aligned action steps to support your spiritual awakening, self-healing journey, and soulful success.
Subscribe now and start living at the speed of alignment.
Because you weren't born to follow trends—you were born to lead with soul.
Host: Shelly Saunier | @shellythemystic
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Keywords: Astrology podcast for women, Human Design podcast, spiritual awakening podcast, soulful business strategy, intuitive empowerment, cosmic energy updates, spiritual self-development, divine feminine wisdom