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Andrea has spent much of his life working away from home as a leader, a decision he does not regret and in this episode he reveals how transformative it was for both his career and himself as an individual. Andrea shares his personal experiences of living away from home and talks about the mindset and methods that he discovered through living this more nomadic lifestyle.
Living abroad has been a gift to him, but the lessons are very useful for anyone who is managing a change or a transition in his/her career.
Changing the place to work sometimes is as hard as changing the place to work.
In this episode, he explores the impact of culture on work life and performance and gives advice on how we can adapt better in a country and a culture that is different to our own.
BEST MOMENTS
“There is no book or guideline to fitting into another culture”
“It's better that you ask twice, not just assume”
“What are you willing to sacrifice to have an experience that is transformational?”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Incredibly, female CEOs are still rare, so listen to this inspiring chat between Andrea and the illustrious CEO Cristina Scocchia. Hear how Cristina went from humble beginnings to leading major international companies through pivotal turnarounds including Proctor & Gamble, L'Oréal, Kiko Milano and now illycaffè. Cristina shares her unique leadership style, thoughts on diversity, and insights into achieving work-life balance as a mother and top executive. You’ll be motivated by Cristina’s passion for business ethics and commitment to building sustainable, purpose-driven brands.
BEST MOMENTS
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE GUEST
After graduating with full marks in Management of International Firms at Luigi Bocconi University, Cristina Scocchia completed a PhD in Business Administration at the University of Torino.
She started her career at Procter&Gamble, where since 1997 she held positions of increasing responsibility working on mature and emerging markets until she was appointed in 2012 as Cosmetics International Operations Division leader, with the responsibility of supervising the brands in her portfolio in over 70 countries throughout the world.
From 2014 to 2017, she served as Chief Executive Officer of L’Oréal Italia and she led the return to growth of the company in a challenging economic environment.
From July 2017 to December 2021, she acted as Chief Executive Officer of KIKO, a leading make up company that she has led to a successful turnaround thanks to a business plan based on product innovation, digital transformation and geographical expansion in Asia and the Middle East.
Since January 2022 she is Chief Executive Officer of illycaffè.
Speaker and lecturer in many national and international conventions and conferences related to enterprise development, leadership, diversity and sustainability, Dr. Scocchia is also a member of the Board of Directors of EssilorLuxottica and Fincantieri of which she is also Chairman of the Nomination Committee.
In June 2019 she was awarded the Legion d'Honneur. In 2022, Forbes and Fortune included her in the prestigious ranking of the most influential female leaders.
ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
It’s the 100th episode of The World Class Leaders show! Join Andrea in this big achievement as he shares the 5 key things he has learned over the past two years of creating the podcast.
If you like the show, please subscribe and leave a review, it makes all the difference!
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“Sometimes we feel that we’re working but that we aren’t any more connected to the big purpose”
“When you record a podcast there are days you don’t want to do it”
“I don’t push anything here, I prefer giving”
“I’m not looking for something perfect I’m looking for something good, to shaking and shifting mindsets”
"Givers always win"
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Adnan Al Noorani is a serial entrepreneur, philanthropist and advisor to families in the UAE. He is highly recognised for his humanitarian work and has over 20 years of experience working with families on everything from law to finance. He joins Andrea to talk about his leadership vision for the future, why everything we do is teaching the next generation of leaders and discusses the mindset and lessons that have got him to where he is today.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“A true leader always listens to his people”
“In life, if you’re not risky you’re not a businessman, no risk no story”
“In this life nothing is impossible, everything is possible”
“I’m proud of what I did but my only regret is I want to do more for society”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnan-al-noorani-428833133
http://www.dfisx.com/
Adnan’s Book Recommendations:
Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum Flashes of Thought Lessons in Life and Leadership
The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari
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ABOUT THE GUEST
Adnan Al Noorani
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnan-al-noorani-428833133
http://www.dfisx.com/
ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Many teams across organisations lack a sense of ownership of results, they may all be doing their own pieces of the puzzle but no one is taking ownership of the entire result. What people say tells you a lot about how they see the current reality and in this episode, Andrea outlines 10 phrases that demonstrate you may have an issue with a lack of ownership in your organisation.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“Ownership is really responsibility at another level”
“That is a sign of lack of ownership as people feel they are not part of the solution”
“Language is a good demonstration of perception of ownership”
“Ownership is helping each other get things done”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Andrea is joined by Intertrust CEO Talal Shamoon. Talal talks about adaptability in business, why the absence of strict hierarchy can be an advantage and why your team and the tools you give them are one of the greatest assets for any CEO. Talal is an entrepreneur by nature and talks about how this has aided his success and gives his thoughts on different CEO archetypes including detailed feedback on Elon Musks' leadership style.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“This company is very rare, it’s been evergreen it’s entire life”
“There’s no real hierarchy we organise around problems that need to be solved”
“To create shareholder value I have to ensure the team remains the best team in the world”
“You team around tasks and problems you don’t create a hierarchy”
“Companies like Motorola and Nokia had to die for companies like Apple and Samsung to be born”
“It’s teams and tools”
“I never make decisions by myself… I don’t hold the truth, I don’t own the truth, no one owns the truth”
“Ultimately the best way to learn is from other people”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE GUEST
Talal Shamoon became Intertrust’s CEO in 2003.
Under his leadership, Intertrust has grown from a small R&D and licensing company to a global leader in trusted computing products and services, licensing, and standardization.
Today, Intertrust’s inventions enable billions of licensed products worldwide and its products are globally deployed.
He joined Intertrust in 1997 as a member of the research staff, and then held a series of executive positions, including Executive Vice President for Business Development and Marketing.
An electrical engineer and computer scientist by training, Talal was a researcher at the NEC Research Institute in Princeton, NJ, where he focused on digital signal processing and content security.
He sits on several company boards – he is a member of the board of directors at Intertrust and on the advisory board of Iron Pillar.
A recognized inventor, published author, and frequent public speaker,with a Ph.D. degrees in electrical engineering from Cornell University.
ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Andrea offers a different perspective about spending time with a bad boss in this episode, particularly focusing on how he discovered what kind of leader he wanted to be from being badly managed in the past. Andrea outlines the things he learnt not to do from his experience with these poor leaders, including why to always show clarity, to always embrace accountability and growth and talks about why leadership is never just a title but the impact we have upon others.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“They were really masters in demotivation, communication blunders”
“It felt like every day was one long episode of what not to do as a leader”
“If you know who is the person you want to be or become, is already part of the solution”
“Bad bosses showcased the importance of clear expectation and directions”
“Don’t just be another leader”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Do you accept diversity or do you celebrate it? In this episode, Andrea is joined by Caroline, who shares her experiences as a CEO before and after her gender transition. Caroline talks about the many differences in leading a company as a man first and then as a woman, how her authenticity helps her build trust and connection with female colleagues as well as why inclusive leadership and driving gender diversity and inclusion in companies can only help them thrive. Caroline also shares some practical tips on how to embrace diversity in your team and the biggest thing they learnt during their time as a CEO and leader.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“When I lived as a man I didn’t have the complete picture of what was going around me, I have a filtered one”
“If you always predict strength and never any weaknesses, you do not invite to have really authentic discussions”
“I realised I had a rather excluding management style I was told by women after my transition, I was told I have a very dominating management style”
“The world is moving faster than ever before and life is a continuous learning journey”
“If you are not part of the solution of creating more including culture you may subconsciously be part of the problem”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE GUEST
Caroline Farberger
Caroline is a professional chairperson and board member, Tech Investor, experienced CEO, keynote speaker and author. Up until 2022, she was CEO of the Swedish insurer ICA Insurance, having spent a total of 25 years in the financial industry on several senior management positions. In addition to her line management experience, Caroline has also been a dot-com entrepreneur and consultant with McKinsey.
Caroline is the first senior business leader in the Nordics to speak openly about her gender transition, having formerly lived as Carl Farberger. Consequently, Caroline has become an advocate and ambassador for diversity and inclusive leadership.
ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
Are you investing in yourself? What is your relationship with personal development as a CEO or leader?
95% of CEOs don’t invest in themselves but why is this the case? In this episode, Andrea explores the reasons so many CEOs don’t prioritise their personal development and the reasons why this needs to change, especially if they want to be an effective leader and grow a successful business.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“Fortune 500 CEOS on average spend 25k per year on personal development”
“Past success tends to boost ego too if you aren’t allowing yourself to be balanced”
“This mindset can lead to a belief that investing time and resource in personal development isn’t necessary”
“CEOs saw a 5% increase in profitability within two years of partaking in personal development programmes”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
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ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
“Leaders create leaders by passing on responsibility, creating ownership, accountability and trust”
James Kerr - Legacy: What The All Blacks Can Teach Us about the Business of Life
In this episode, Andrea is joined by Michael Hansen, the CEO of Hempel based in Denmark. Michael talks about the role of sustainability in the future success of companies, his approach to people and the human element in being a CEO and also about the unique challenges leaders face in the workplace today including retaining talent. Michael and Andrea also talk in-depth about how important culture is to a company and what you can do as a CEO to influence it.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
BEST BITS
“That was a deliberate choice in that we needed to continue to grow at an accelerated pace but in an intelligent way”
“We want to make sure we are among the leading 5 companies, that guide some choices”
“We should listen to our leaders, but we should also listen ourselves, closer to the frontline”
“It’s a very mobile workforce we have today, it’s a very ambitious workforce”
“Culture can drive performance, but it can also drive engagement in employees”
VALUABLE RESOURCES
Michael’s Book Recommendations:
Legacy: What the All Blacks Can Teach Us about the Business of Life
The Founder's Mentality: How to Overcome the Predictable Crises of Growth
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ABOUT THE GUEST
Michael Hansen
linkedin.com/in/michaelhansen75
Michael Hansen joined Hempel in May 2017 as Chief Commercial Officer and has delivered remarkable results as a central driver of the global transformation in Hempel. Prior to taking on the role as Group President and Chief Executive Officer of Hempel A/S, Michael was part of the Executive Group Management as Executive Vice President, Energy & Infrastructure.
Michael Hansen holds a degree from Copenhagen Business School, as well as an Executive MBA from IE Business School in Madrid, Spain. Prior to joining Hempel, Michael Hansen worked 19 years for Maersk, where he held the position, among others, of Vice President, Global Head of Sales & Marketing in Maersk Line.
ABOUT THE HOST
My name is Andrea Petrone. I'm a Human Performance and Leadership Advisor, Executive Coach and International Speaker. I help leaders and their teams to change their mindsets and master their leadership capabilities so they can achieve extraordinary performance. I've been in the corporate world for more than 20 years working globally - in 6 countries and 3 continents - for medium-large companies.
From the publisher's feed
If you’re a CEO or senior executive, your challenges don’t sound like “I need more leadership tips.”
They sound more like:
“Why am I still carrying this company on my shoulders?”
“Why doesn’t my top team own the strategy the way I do?”
“How do I challenge the board or investors without blowing up the relationship?”
“How do we build a company that still matters in 10 years, not just hit this year’s numbers?”
The World-Class Leaders Show is the CEO leadership podcast built for those questions.
Hosted by Andrea Petrone – A Global Influencer, CEO Whisperer, WIley Author, Executive Coach and Speaker – the show goes deep into what it really takes to lead at the top: using power well, doing the identity work of leadership, and making the big decisions that shape the future of your company.
Each episode brings real CEO stories and the best business thinkers in the world to the table. You’ll hear how sitting and former CEOs, chairs, and C-suite leaders tackle the biggest business problems of our time – growth, culture, strategy execution, transformation, technology, risk, and talent – and how they stay true to who they are while doing it.
You’ll use this podcast to:
Get your executive team truly aligned, so you stop re-fighting the same battles in every meeting.
Turn strategy into a small set of clear priorities and behaviours your people actually execute.
Hold your ground with boards, investors, regulators, and powerful internal stakeholders – and still move the agenda forward.
Use your voice and position with more clarity and impact, so people know what you stand for and where the company is going.
Find fresh inspiration and language to build a better future for your organization, your people, and the markets you serve – without losing yourself in the role.
Featuring leaders from Fortune companies and some of the best thinkers in the world (like Amy Edmondson, Adam Bryant, James Keyes), the show is known for its richness, depth, and straight talk. Ranked in the top 5% of podcasts globally, it’s followed by thousands of CEOs and senior executives who want more than recycled ideas and surface-level conversations.
If you care about solving real business problems, shaping the future, and doing the inner work required to lead at the very top, this podcast is for you.
Subscribe to The World-Class Leaders Show and upgrade both your leadership – and the future you’re building.
For ongoing CEO insights and behind-the-scenes context from each episode, follow Andrea Petrone on LinkedIn.

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