Viral Kantaria - @ViralKMH on twitter - is a senior program manger in NHS England and the person who seems to have his finger on the pulse around how services are changing.  There is money to be spent, there are staff to be trained and improvements are expected.  Great to hear Viral talk about how the term 'personality disorder' is seen as a problematic way to define people and how people with lived experience are seen as key to helping services work better. 

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As a member of parliament and member of the coalition government, Norman Lamb was one of the few (the only?) politicians to mention the term 'personality disorder, let alone chair a commission about it.  Norman listened to people who had been given this diagnosis and co-authored the Consensus Statement - A paper calling for the term personality disorder to be abandoned, for better services for people given this label and a more compassionate approach to those who had lived through awful experiences.  A champion of human rights, Norman has campaigned against long detentions in private psychiatric hospitals.  His contribution towards the welfare of people given this diagnosis is greatly missed in parliament.  

We really enjoyed this episode.  You can read the consensus statement here:   https://www.mind.org.uk/media-a/4408/consensus-statement-final.pdf

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Hollie and Keir talk to Christine Dunkley, one of the lead DBT trainers in the UK.  DBT (Dialectical Behaviour Therapy) is the one therapy specifically mentioned in the NICE guidelines for "BPD".  We talk about what DBT is and isn't, how phone contact works, the Stepford Wives and some of the issues that arise from DBT being delivered in ways that don't fit with what's in the manual.  We really enjoyed this one.  

Christine has a book out that we highly recommend.  You can get it here   Its a great guide for helping manage pain and intense emotion, rather than just trying to distract from them. 

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Joel Paris is a Canadian psychiatrist and eminent researcher in the field of "personality disorder".  He is probably the most vocal advocate of the idea that those with a BPD diagnosis should not be admitted to hospital.  We explore this view with Joel, whether his research is quoted accurately and what he feels is helpful for those who get this diagnosis.  

Joel's most recent book is here

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Keir and Hollie introduce themselves as the hosts of The Wrong Kind of Mad Podcast.  While we don't mention it, the diagnosis of Personality Disorder is sometimes described in this way.  It is sometimes seen as too complex for some services while others will decline to help people who have that diagnosis.  While we quite liked the title, it also won a poll on twitter to be the official monicker of the project.  This is us.  Hope you join us for more. 

In the first ever recording of The Wrong Kind of Mad podcast we talk to Actress, Broadcaster and Activist Nicola Thorpe about her experiences of "BPD" & mysogyny.  Nicola is one of the few people in the public eye who openly talks about identifying with BPD and we had a great discussion around diagnosis, integrity and the pathologising of fiesty women. 

You can read Nicola's regular columns in the Metro and she is active on twitter @nicolathorp_ (note the underscore at the end) and instagram @missnicolathorp

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