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  • Curios and Trinkets: The Small Things [Book 3, Appendix A]

    No Chrono Trigger? No, we’re back in the past, before the initial experiment! T has been putting in some late nights, but to what end? (a portal machine, we covered that) And do we know who has been stealing parts from the office? It’s all coming together, as is their lovely Final Fantasy 6 audio drama!

    T and G discuss… well, honestly, a lot of our favourite moments big and (mostly) small from the game, including dredging up past unsolved mysteries (and alluding to future ones)! Also, they talk a little bit about what a more direct Chrono Trigger sequel might have looked like, and what it means for a game to be a spiritual successor of Chrono Trigger (if that means anything at all)!

    Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by Nick Terwoord. Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.

    Episode Cast

    Alphabetically, by actor:

    • Ari in the role of Terra, and her fictional self
    • Artimage in the role of Emperor Gestahl
    • Dan Murray in the role of Kefka
    • Nick G in the role of his fictional self, and discussion host
    • Nick H in the role of “the Boss”
    • Nick T in the role of his fictional self, soldier, narrator, and discussion host
    • Nick Z in the role of his fictional self, and “Old Man”
    • Musical Credits
      • [00:06] Wake up, T! Notes from a Small Island by JJT from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • [03:17] Friends: Cold Boot by 744 from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • [28:39] What a horrible nightmare… The Atomizer by Mustin from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • [29:47] Where am I? Final Fantasy VI: Balance and Ruin - Remember by Joshua Morse from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • [30:44] Bring me the girl… Following Forgotten by Patrick Burns from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • [33:53] You don’t understand… Dream-Shore Sonata-Fantaisie by MC from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • [35:51] Let’s do this!: Punk Hairdo Kid by HyperDuck SoundWorks from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
      • Additional Notes

        Memories: What are some of your favourite small bits?

        • Chrono Trigger is a game of moments, really cool moments. What are some of your favourites of some of the smaller moments and details?
        • For example:
          • All of the items have official artwork
          • The Kilwala piano player learns more music as the game advances
          • You can get clones of all the characters, and they clones appear in time-appropriate locations
          • Crono has a useless weapon you can charm from Nus, the Mop
            • Actually ties into the OVA: “The Nu and Mamo believed they could recruit Fiends into their gang by offering free mops”
            • The rocks / triple techs!
              • Don’t even know if these are explained in game; several you find through the course of the game. Others are much harder to find.
              • Gold Rock: On Denadoro mountain after the Masamune has been repaired
              • Silver Rock: The naming Nu at Laruba ruins
              • Black Rock: In the secret room in Kajar
              • Blue Rock: In a half hidden chest in Giant’s Claw
              • The Nagaette Bromide
              • Fighting enemies on the map
              • Crono’s sword colours
              • Visible secrets on the map
              • Curiosities: The many unsolved mysteries

                • Stories don’t need to tell us everything... but as consumers of media (and in an age of transformative media, like this podcast) it’s interesting to ponder and try to flesh out unanswered questions!
                • Such as:
                  • What is the deal with Norstein Bekkler?
                  • ...And why do they have clones?
                    • ...And how real are the clones??
                    • What was the Blackbird built to protect?
                    • Why did Belthasar build the Epoch in the first place?
                    • What was Zeal like before the King passed away?
                      • We know that the Earthbound Ones and Zealots lived more harmoniously before the Mammon Machine… but what was that like?
                      • Why was Fritz about to be guillotined?
                      • Where have all the mystics gone (in 2300 AD)?
                      • How did Gaspar get all the materials at the end of time?
                      • What is Spekkio, and how is it the master of war??
                      • What’s your favourite unsolved mystery of Chrono Trigger?
                      • What is the Zeal Archives?

                        The Zeal Archives is a monthly podcast exploring the A-Z of the world of Chrono Trigger one bit at a time—two parts audio drama, one part discussion podcast, one hundred percent love letter to one of the best JRPGs of all time!

                        The Zeal Archives is published at zealarchives.com and thenickscast.com and can be found on most podcatching services. Please leave us comments, questions, criticism, or any other feedback at TheNickscast on Facebook or Twitter.

                        Links
                        • https://chrono.fandom.com/wiki/Mop
                          Mop - Chrono Compendium
                        • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Table:_Accessories_(Chrono_Trigger)_General.html
                          Accessories (Chrono Trigger - General) - Chrono Compendium
                        • https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563538-chrono-trigger/faqs/31563
                          Game Script by Zeality - GameFAQs
                        • Transcript

                          Part 1 

                           

                          INT. COFFEE SHOP

                           

                          The ambient noise of conversation, steam, grinding beans, and clinking cups slowly fades into prominence. Everything is fuzzy as it feels like we’re waking from a dream.

                           

                          A voice cuts through the fuzz, and echoes in the mind.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (concerned)

                          T? T? You ok?

                           

                          NICK T

                          (alert)

                          Oh! Sorry about that, I must have dozed off for a second. What were you saying?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (super casual)

                          It’s fine. Don’t worry about it. What uh, what’s going on?

                           

                          NICK T

                          (distant)

                          Going on?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (patiently)

                          You… almost fell asleep? Right now? Are you feeling alright?

                           

                          NICK T

                          (inattentive)

                          Oh sorry. Yeah I’ve been [yawn] staying up pretty late. Losing a lot of sleep.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Any particular reason?

                           

                          NICK T

                          Oh absolutely! I’ve been working on this secret project, and I’m really excited about it.



                          NICK Z

                          (jokingly)

                          Well uh… you gonna let in your good friend, Z, on the ol’ secret.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (hesitantly)

                          ...I can’t. I promised I wouldn’t.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (backing off)

                          Alright, alright…

                           

                          NICK T

                          (apologetic)

                          I promise I’ll tell you about it as soon as I can.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Nice. Well, I’m excited to hear more about it. Speaking of secrets… do you know what’s going on at the office?

                           

                          NICK T

                          (deflecting)

                          At the office? No? I mean, what do you mean?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          You remember how I was telling you about those missing parts at the office?

                           

                          T takes a sip of coffee and almost spits it out.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (suspicious)

                          Hmm-hmmm.... I think you’d mentioned something like that.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          It feels like it’s been so much worse since then! Having to constantly sign items out and in, mandating we all enter and leave through the same entrance… no out-of-hours office access… I even heard a rumour about installing a metal detector and security at the entrance.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (doubtful)

                          They wouldn’t put in a metal detector. That’s ridiculous!

                           

                          NICK Z

                          It’s what I heard! And I work late so I am not a fan…

                           

                          NICK T

                          Security though? That’s pretty serious if they go through with it...

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Yeah, right?

                           

                          NICK T

                          Wait, what does any of that have to do with secrets?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Well, they’ve gotta know who it is, right? I mean, we deal in A.V. equipment, and there’re tons of cameras around the office. There’s no way equipment is getting stolen by some random person: it’s gotta be an inside job!

                           

                          NICK T

                          Uhhhhhh…

                           

                          The coffee shop’s front door jingles as it opens, and G stomps through the hallway to the group. He drops his back down on the table, shaking nearby cups and saucers.

                           

                          NICK G

                          [venting noises]

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Hey G! Is uh… everything ok?

                           

                          Nick G pulls out a chair and reluctantly sits down.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (short)

                          No. Nope. Fuck no.

                           

                          NICK T

                          O...k. Do you want to talk about it?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (sincere)

                          It’s just… [sigh] Ok. Do you ever get the feeling like… you’re stuck? Like your life just isn’t going where you want it to go, no matter what you try?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          No.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Yes.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (sarcastically)

                          Thanks guys.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (facetious)

                          No I get it, sometimes it feels like your life is stuck in second gear.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (annoyed)

                          Oh god

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (jokingly)

                          When it hasn’t been your day… your week, your month, or even your year?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (frustrated)

                          Damn it. Come on guys!

                           

                          NICK T

                          Sorry! It was too perfect. You do know that we’ll be there for you, right?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Yeah!



                          NICK G

                          (annoyed)

                          Could we be serious for like, just one moment?

                           

                          NICK T

                          Yes. For sure. Yes, I’ve felt like that too. I don’t know what to tell you, the only thing I know, based on what I’ve read, is to try to find happiness with where you’re at, and to accept that… but damn that’s been hard to take.

                           

                          NICK G

                          Right?!

                           

                          NICK T

                          Like I’m much more likely to get angry and try to fight to find a way to fix … whatever the problem is. And probably crash and burn.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (boasting)

                          I don’t find it that hard…

                           

                          NICK T

                          (annoyed)

                          Z!

                           

                          NICK G

                          (annoyed)

                          Z!

                           

                          Nick Z turns away as he sips his coffee.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          I’m just sayin’... [sips]

                           

                          NICK G

                          It… it just feels like there’s got to be more to life than this, you know? Working to barely break even… I want to get ahead. I want to thrive! It always feels like I’m behind.



                          NICK Z

                          (philosophical)

                          Even when it feels like we’re behind… it can be important to try to put things in perspective.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (deadpan)

                          What perspective?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (philosophical)

                          Like… even though something got you upset before you got here, you’ve still got us! And we got you a coffee. It’s not a big thing, but it’s something that shows that it’s not all bad.

                           

                          Nick G takes a sip of the coffee.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (understanding)

                          Yeah… I guess that’s true. [sips]

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (philosophical)

                          Yeah! And it’s small moments—little details like this—those are what make an otherwise boring and frustrating life into something remarkable.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (jokingly)

                          Something you’ve been working on for a book, Z?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          (jokingly, leaning into it)

                          Well, actually, I’ve been working on this story set in a pseudo-medieval setting…

                           

                          NICK Z

                          [chuckles]

                           

                          NICK T

                          [chuckles]

                           

                          NICK G

                          [chuckles]

                           

                          The laughter breaks the tense air for just a moment.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          But seriously, G—what got you all frustrated?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (hesitating)

                          Oh… uh…

                           

                          G’s phone begins to ring a familiar tune. G quickly picks his phone off the table to take a closer look.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (disappointed)

                          Shit… it’s work. I’ll have to get back to you. Gotta run!

                           

                          G hastily throws his jacket back on and picks up his bag from the table.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Hey, we’re still on to work on the audio drama later, right?

                           

                          NICK G

                          Should be, yeah. Text me the details.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Alright, later G!

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Bye!

                           

                          The bell rings again, but with a dreamlike echoing quality as the audio fuzzes again.

                           

                          EPISODE DISCUSSION

                          (To be transcribed)

                           

                          Part 2 

                           

                          INT. A SMALL RECORDING STUDIO

                           

                          Nick T, Nick Z, and another voice actor are huddled around different microphones and recording equipment. It is eerily, but unsurprisingly, quiet as the acoustic foam softens any and all noise.

                           

                          A small amount of white noise slowly fades to a voice over a sort of radio or PA system.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Alright, let’s take it from the top. I’ll play the pre-recorded segments, and try to cue you when it’s time for your lines. Got it?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Isn’t that a bit complicated?

                           

                          NICK T

                          A bit, but it’s the only thing I could do to make this recording work. Are both of you ready?

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Ready!

                           

                          ARI

                          Ready!

                           

                          NICK T

                          Alright, here we go!

                           

                          Nick T hits the ‘record’ button on the instrument panel, and the tape deck slowly gets up to speed preparing to record the next take...

                           

                           

                          Final Fantasy 6 - The Audio Drama: Part 3 

                           

                          Terra is tossing and turning in her sleep, fitting about as she endures vivid nightmares about what happened to her under the influence of the slave crown.



                          INT. KEFKA’S NIGHTMARISH LAB

                           

                          Jacob’s ladders, drills, and other unpleasant tools are at the ready.

                           

                          KEFKA

                          My sweet little magic user...! Uweee... he... he! With this slave crown I'll practically own you!!

                           

                          TERRA

                          No! Get away from me!



                          EXT. BURNING VILLAGE

                           

                          Flames roar all around, men, wo men, children, all screaming as swords clash. Terra unleashes a terrible fire beam burning her victims.

                           

                          KEFKA

                          Uwee, hee, hee! Good! Burn up everything!



                          EXT. A MILITARY CELEBRATION

                           

                          A large crowd is gathered, and a man speaks proudly addresses an empire over the loudspeaker.

                           

                          GESTAHL

                          We stand on the brink of a major breakthrough! In the days to come, we'll witness a total revival of Magic!

                           

                          The crowd cheers.

                           

                          GESTAHL

                          It is our destiny, and ours alone, to take this mystic force and claim what is rightfully ours!

                           

                          The crowd cheers louder.

                           

                          GESTAHL

                          With our new-found power, nothing can stand in our way! Hurrah!!! Long live Emperor Gestahl!

                           

                          There is uproarious applause and saluting. 

                           

                          INT. A WELL KEPT HOME IN A MINING TOWN

                           

                          Terra is unwell, but is finally waking from what seems like a horrible nightmare. Sweat drips down her face. A familiar Final Fantasy 6 theme begins to play in the background.

                           

                          TERRA

                          [tossing and turning, nightmare noises, various intensities and durations]

                           

                          TERRA

                          (weakly, confused)

                          Where am I?

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          (surprised)

                          Whoa! And I only just removed your crown!

                           

                          TERRA

                          (wincing)

                          ...head… hurts…

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          Easy! This is a slave crown… the others had complete control over you while you were wearing it.

                           

                          TERRA

                          (weakly)

                          I... can’t remember a thing...

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          Don’t worry. It’ll all come back to you… in time, that is.

                           

                          NARRATOR

                          A mysterious young woman, controlled by the empire, and born with the gift of magic...

                           

                          TERRA

                          My name… ...is… Terra...

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          Impressive! I’ve never heard of anyone recovering this fast…!

                           

                          Barking dogs approach, followed quickly by hard rapping on the door.

                           

                          SOLDIER

                          Open up! Give us back the girl and the Empire's Magitek Armor!

                           

                          The two wait in silence, and the rapping continues.

                           

                          SOLDIER

                          I said open this door! We want that girl! She's an officer of the Empire!

                           

                          TERRA

                          (confused)

                          Empire...? Magitek Armor...?

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          Look, I have to get you out of here! I don't have time to explain!

                           

                          The old rushes towards a back corner of the room.

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          Over here!

                           

                          The old man reveals a secret exit after sliding aside some room decor.

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          Make your way out through the mines! I'll keep these brutes occupied!



                          TERRA

                          [sound of agreement / understanding]

                           

                          Terra runs as fast as she can away from the building, and slams the door. Outside, we can hear muffled voices...

                           

                          SOLDIER

                          She’s up there!

                           

                          The dogs continue barking but make their way away from the main door as they chase a new target.

                           

                          OLD MAN

                          [sigh of relief]

                           

                           

                          Part 2: Part 2 

                           

                          There is another knocking at the door… both in the audio track, and a different one in the real world. Nick Z presses a button on the PA.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Uh… it looks like we’re almost at G’s cue?

                           

                          NICK T

                          Hold on a second, maybe that’s him at the door?

                           

                          The music track continues for a bit in the background as T goes to answer the door. Before he has the chance to open it, Nick G quickly swings it open, slams it behind him, and locks the door. He remains firmly in place, holding the door shut out of caution.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (jokingly)

                          Took you long enough! We were just about to get to your cue.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (urgently)

                          We need to get out of here… er, I need to get out of here. Now.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (confused)

                          Is this some sort of bit?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (quietly)

                          No, and there’s no time to explain.

                           

                          NICK T

                          O...k?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (quietly)

                          I did it. I finally quit this shithole.

                           

                          NICK T

                          [confused noises] Uh… huh…

                           

                          There is a pounding on the door and we can hear a voice muffled through the doorway.

                           

                          BOSS

                          Get out of there you son of a bitch! How dare you!

                           

                          NICK T

                          (curious)

                          G, what did you do?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (insistent)

                          I promise I’ll explain later, just get me out of here first!

                           

                          NICK T

                          Alright, uh… great recording everyone! Thanks Z, Ari!

                           

                          Nick G and T slip out the alternate exit while the boss continues to pound on the door and fiddle with the lock.

                           

                          ARI

                          What just happened? Are things always this chaotic?

                           

                          Nick Z hesitates for a while.

                           

                          NICK Z

                          Ehhhhh… yeah.



                          EXT. RAINING ALLEYWAY CONNECTED TO INTERIOR CITY ROAD

                           

                          The metal door from the office swings to a small alleyway littered with garbage. It’s pouring rain, but fortunately T pulls out a small umbrella reducing the harsh rain to a gentle patter.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (concerned)

                          Ok, what’s going on? What happened?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (avoidant)

                          Like I said, I quit.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (worried)

                          The boss is really riled up, it must have been more than that.

                           

                          Nick G is walking away, splashing in the big puddles as cars drive past in the distance.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (avoidant)

                          I don’t know what to tell you.

                           

                          NICK T

                          I was talking with Z at the coffee shop today and he mentioned that the boss has been really irritable lately, really cracking the whip as far as security goes.

                           

                          NICK G

                          Yeah, and?

                           

                          NICK T

                          And I was thinking that, when you started getting me those parts, and when parts from the office started going missing… those two times sort of line up.

                           

                          NICK G

                          You trying to say you think I stole them?

                           

                          NICK T

                          No! I mean, I don’t think you stole them…

                           

                          There’s a brief pause.

                           

                          NICK T

                          ...Did you?

                           

                          There’s another long pause, a car drives past.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Answer me!

                           

                          Another pause.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Oh shit… it was you! You’re the one who's been stealing parts from the office.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (insistently)

                          You don’t understand.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (angry)

                          What the hell! How could you do that? This has been going on for months!

                           

                          NICK G

                          (insistently)

                          You don’t have any idea!

                           

                          NICK T

                          (upset)

                          Why didn’t you say something?

                           

                          NICK G

                          Do you want me to say sorry? Is that it? Well I’m sorry! I fucked up!

                           

                          NICK G

                          I’m sorry, ok?! I fucked up!

                           

                          NICK T

                          (belligerent)

                          You sure fucking did!

                           

                          Nick T begins to storm off into the rain.

                           

                          NICK G

                          Wait…

                           

                          Nick T stops in his tracks.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Why the hell should I?

                           

                          NICK G

                          Just give me a chance to explain.

                           

                          A car splashes through a puddle on the main waterway.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Get on with it.



                          NICK G

                          [takes a deep breath] Do you ever think about what happens to all the things that don’t sell? All the parts I brought you? All that inventory can’t just be thrown away or recycled. There’s a lot of toxic shit in it so it requires a specialized kind of disposal. And normally that would all work out because a percentage of everything we sell goes to pay for that disposal.

                           

                          There’s a rumble of thunder in the sky.

                           

                          NICK G

                          But what if it doesn’t get disposed of properly? What if it instead goes to the lowest bidder, and someone like the boss just pockets the difference? A bidder who just burns it all or lets all the chemicals leach into the earth, or water?

                           

                          NICK T

                          Wait, are you saying that the boss was skimming off the top and letting all our old junk poison the planet?

                           

                          NICK G

                          That’s exactly what I’m saying.

                           

                          Nick T’s stance softens a bit.

                           

                          NICK T

                          But if you’ve been stealing the parts, isn’t that just doing him a favour? He gets to keep all the profit then.

                           

                          NICK G

                          You’d think that, but this whole scheme only works when all the “facts” line up, and it’s hard to claim things are disposed of properly when they go missing.



                          NICK T

                          (sympathetic)

                          Shit… G… why didn’t you say something?

                           

                          NICK G

                          No one gives a shit about this! You think HR gives a fuck? They only care about protecting the company. I tried T. I really did. And when that didn’t work? I took things into my own hands. I’m sorry.

                           

                          There’s a pause.

                           

                          NICK G

                          Then… when we started doing the audio drama, and somehow you made that fucking impossible portal… everything started to turn around! It was like, wow! Life doesn’t have to be miserable! Right? I don’t need to keep being stuck in this miserable existence. It felt like great things can really happen.

                           

                          There is a long pause.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Let’s do it.

                           

                          NICK G

                          What?

                           

                          NICK T

                          You were honest with me… just now… and you’re right

                           

                          NICK G

                          Of course I am! I mean, of course I’m going to be honest with you. You and Z are my best friends.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Awww… I mean, you’re right, earlier today, about everything being kind of meh. Z is also right about the small things mattering, but also… screw it! This portal thing... whatever it is… it’s special, and yeah, it does feel like great things can really happen.

                           

                          NICK T

                          So let’s do it. I’m all in!

                           

                          The two hug it out, the rain now thoroughly soaking both of them even with the protection of the umbrella.

                           

                          NICK G

                          [laughing] We should probably get out of this rain.

                           

                          NICK T

                          Yeah, I’m getting pretty soaked.

                           

                          NICK G

                          Well… what now?

                           

                          NICK T

                          Well, you’ve quit, so we’ll have to make due with what we’ve got on the experiment. I think I’m close to something big.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (surprised)

                          Bigger than portals?!

                           

                          NICK T

                          Yeah… I think you’ll be pretty surprised.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (sarcastically)

                          Ha ha.

                           

                          NICK T

                          (sincere)

                          But let’s be honest from now on, ok? And Z is my best friend too, we should let him in on this.

                           

                          NICK G

                          (reluctant)

                          That’s fair…



                          NICK T

                          Good! I’m going to get back to work. Do me a favour: Try to stay out of trouble?

                           

                          NICK G

                          (half joking)

                          I’m practically a fugitive on the run; I’ll try to lay low.

                           

                          NICK T

                          You do that! See you soon, G!

                           

                          NICK G

                          Yeah… see you soon, T.

                          39 min
                        • Dalton: The Seat of Power [Book 3, Chapter 9]

                          After restoring most of the Chrono Trigger timeline, our intrepid heroes unfortunately stumble into the path of … Dalton? And Azala?? Thrown into a prison cell on the Blackbird with neither tools nor weapons, how will the party escape and stop whatever nefarious scheme is afoot? Will T and G ever get to go home? There’s only one way out of this sticky situation: a stealth mission.

                          In our world, T and G dig into the enigma that is the “seat” of power himself (in that he’s a big ass), Dalton!

                          • What is the deal with Dalton? How is it that a man with such distaste for authority have managed to rise so high in society, especially with such an eclectic fashion sense?
                          • Villains in Chrono Trigger! All are time-locked, and arguably there’s no main big bad (Lavos doesn’t count, really)
                          • Again, Chrono Trigger as a game of great moments and set pieces, and how it tried to do different things (like the Blackbird) to different effects

                          • Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by Nick Terwoord. Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.

                            Episode Cast

                            Alphabetically, by actor:

                            • Artimage in the role of Announcing Soldier
                            • Dan Murray in the role of King Dalton
                            • Manda Whitney in the role of Empress Azala
                            • Nick H in the role of Basher
                            • Nick G in the role of his fictional self, and discussion host
                            • Nick T in the role of his fictional self, Robo, and discussion host
                            • Patrick "TrickyLove" Moylan in the role of Nizbel III
                            • SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear
                            • Musical Credits
                              • [00:00] Oww: Inception by The ARTISANS Beats used under Jamendo’s standard license
                              • [00:05] Lucky to be alive: Timewarp by Ben Briggs, DjjD, Elation, Giles Teskey, halc, Jeff Ball, Luke Keever from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [05:16] Metal gearrrrrrrrrr: Innocent Deception by Claire Yaxley, Dj Mystix from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [08:15] Can’t let you do that, StarFox… The Final Battle by PLBenjaminZ from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [30:39] Should’ve taken the stairs: Fight or Flight by Nostalvania, The OC Jazz Collective from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [32:01] Well that can’t be good: BadAss: Boss Themes: Volume III - Seed of Perdition by Lashmush from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [34:55] Open ALL the gates! JESUS CHRIST IT'S A DINOSAUR GET IN THE EPOCH by DrumUltimA from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [35:31] DBZ Intensifies: BadAss: Paragons & Renegades - Time Warrior by Sam Dillard from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [36:25] Ok, but for real this time: BadAss: Paragons & Renegades - Time Warrior by Sam Dillard from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                              • [38:36] Sad End: Inception by The ARTISANS Beats used under Jamendo’s standard license
                              • Additional Notes

                                Background: What’s the deal with Dalton?

                                • As previously mentioned, 12 000 BC is one of the coolest (if not the coolest) time period
                                • He is first encountered if you visit the Blackbird; later in more detail in the throne room when he warns queen Zeal; introduces party as ‘the evildoers the prophet warned of’
                                  • If you ask around, will also reveal that Dalton is overseeing the construction of the Ocean Palace… until the Prophet showed up
                                  • ...Generally, he’s an egotistical power hungry maniac!
                                  • But also, he fills a weird role in the court of Zeal!
                                    • Oversees the Blackbird … but didn’t create it (Guru of Reason, Belthasar)
                                    • Continued supervision of the Ocean Palace after Guru of Reason “disappeared”...
                                    • ...but when the prophet shows up, he overtakes supervision!
                                    • Commander of Zeal’s security force, the Dalton Corps! (Missing from translation)
                                    • Blond? Eye-patch? Golems?? Can use magic, but never does???
                                    • Has a beef with Guardia for some reason
                                      • This is an addition implied from the PS version to tie together with Chrono Cross as “a long-haired assailant is depicted killing the Kingdom of Guardia's last defender in a cutscene”
                                      • Also, confirmed in the DS version’s “Dimensional Vortex”: “He drew up plans for revenge against Crono's group, who he felt denied him his kingdom and status as ruler over the age of antiquity. He then left the Dimensional Vortex, probably to a year predating 1000 A.D., and raised an army to overthrow the Kingdom of Guardia in 1005 A.D”
                                      •  

                                        Storytelling: Villains in Chrono Trigger

                                        • Chrono Trigger doesn’t have a big-bad antagonist, or even many long-term recurring villains…
                                          • Magus is close, but many villains (even interesting ones, like Flea) are one-note
                                          • The main antagonist, Lavos, isn’t so much an antagonist as the solution to a puzzle; plus, not so much malevolent as an unknowable alien entity
                                          • Many of the villains could be interesting, if given a space to grow, or time, but each is more-or-less locked into their time period, so not a lot of opportunity
                                          • Interesting missed opportunity with Yakra
                                          • ...Dalton gets a bit of an opportunity to fill this void as he desires power, immortality, and when the queen is “gone”, there is a power vacuum
                                            • Queen Zeal sort of fills this role too, but shows up really late in the game, and the Black Omen is optional.
                                            • Could Dalton have had more airtime? Could his story have been replaced entirely by rolling more of it into Magus / the Prophet’s story?
                                            •  

                                              Storytelling: Chrono Trigger as Set Pieces

                                              • Originally we wanted to talk about the Blackbird exclusively, but there isn’t much to say about it on its own…
                                              • ...But talking about it as a “scene”, novel at the time to have this “stealth” section, and highlights Chrono Triggers strength in having strong moments
                                                • Also, an opportunity to catch up on technical points, via the turrets, if you fall behind
                                                • …You can swap Ayla into your party, in which case, not so much a stealth section
                                                • Really can lose all your stuff, but game will warn if you try to leave without it
                                                • Often scenes raise more questions than answers
                                                  • Why was the Blackbird even necessary? In case of a magical uprising? Definitely not the earthbound ones
                                                  • Allows new and interesting forms of play
                                                    • Even if you don’t like the Jet Bike race… it’s unique
                                                    • Similarly, the puzzles in the Geno dome
                                                    • This all works somehow because the time between scenes is short; you’re there for the journey as you’re whisked from set piece to set piece
                                                    • Realistically, hard to have five different time periods work together
                                                      • Other games might have had multiple kingdoms or empires, and this is sort of managed by time periods instead, but also allows for a lot more variation
                                                      • Secret of Evermore did something similar, but we haven’t played it all the way through so hard to compare
                                                      • What is the Zeal Archives?

                                                        The Zeal Archives is a monthly podcast exploring the A-Z of the world of Chrono Trigger one bit at a time—two parts audio drama, one part discussion podcast, one hundred percent love letter to one of the best JRPGs of all time!

                                                         

                                                        The Zeal Archives is published at zealarchives.com and thenickscast.com and can be found on most podcatching services. Please leave us comments, questions, criticism, or any other feedback at TheNickscast on Facebook or Twitter.

                                                        Links
                                                        • https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/64s7n7/metal_gear_alerts_sound_for_text_and_calls/
                                                          Metal gear alerts sound for text and calls - r/metalgearsolid
                                                          • https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563538-chrono-trigger/faqs/31563
                                                            Game Script by Zeality - GameFAQs
                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Dalton.html
                                                              Dalton - Chrono Compendium
                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Blackbird.html
                                                              Blackbird - Chrono Trigger
                                                            • Transcript

                                                              Part 1 

                                                               

                                                              INT. A FUTURISTIC PRISON CELL

                                                               

                                                              Straight from the previous episode, a portal opens up facing a futuristic prison cell. Nizbell throws the party into the cell through it’s unusually wide door.

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              (deadpan)

                                                              Ow

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              [thrown to the ground, pained]

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [thrown to the ground, pained]

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              [thrown to the ground, pained]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              Fools... You're lucky to be alive!

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (contempt)

                                                              Dalton!

                                                               

                                                              Dalton grabs the cuff of his glove and pulls it taught against his hand.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (haughty)

                                                              You may address me as King Dalton…

                                                               

                                                              It takes a moment, but Dalton begins to take note of who he is addressing.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (surprise, then condescension)

                                                              You? You're alive!? I suppose not for very long…

                                                               

                                                              Dalton quickly pulls his cape up with a flourish, unleashing a series of energy balls towards Lucca, knocking her to the back of the cell.



                                                              LUCCA

                                                              [pained shriek]

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (concerned)

                                                              Lucca!

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (concerned)

                                                              Lucca!

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              (concerned)

                                                              Lucca!

                                                               

                                                              Dalton throws his cape behind him and turns away dramatically.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (boasting)

                                                              The world now belongs to me! Mwa ha ha!

                                                               

                                                              Azala’s voice crackles to life over the radio.

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              (annoyed)

                                                              Dalton! Are you almost done with those other apes?!

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (annoyed)

                                                              Grrr… Yes ma'am! By your leave…

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              Excellent! Join me here. We must continue our preparations for this Black-bird.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (annoyed)

                                                              Grrr…

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (commanding)

                                                              You! Numbskull!

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              (meekly)

                                                              It’s Nizbel…

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              Whatever! Have you taken their equipment?

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              Yes, sir! I’ve ensured that they won’t…

                                                               

                                                              Nizbel is abruptly cut off.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              Then why are we still here, you idiot? Seal the door and let’s go.

                                                               

                                                              Dalton stomps off as Nizbel pushes the huge door shut. Through the tiny window he speaks.

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              Don’t think you’ll be getting away this time! [giggle]

                                                               

                                                              The party rushes to Lucca’s aid.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (worried)

                                                              Lucca, are you alright?!

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (wincing)

                                                              I guess a helmet comes in handy for situations like this. Heh heh heh… owww.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (relieved)

                                                              [sigh] Well, that’s one less thing to worry about…

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (encouraging)

                                                              Come on G! We’ve been in situations like this before. We’ll find a way out.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              You have become uncomfortably familiar with this kind of situation.



                                                              NICK T

                                                              Yeah… this cannot be good for my mental health.

                                                               

                                                              Lucca slowly stands up, and braces herself against the wall.

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              Lucca!

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (pained, reassuring)

                                                              I’ll be ok. We need to find a way out of here, right?

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              For sure, but this place seems to be locked up pretty tightly. Solid metal as far as the eye can see.

                                                               

                                                              Nick T knocks on the wall, but instead of solid metal, the response is hollow.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (surprised)

                                                              ...Or not?

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Hel-lo… I think I hear opportunity knocking. Maybe we can access some sort of door control from this side?

                                                               

                                                              Lucca starts patting herself down, looking for tools, but has none.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              I’m sorry… it looks like they took all of my equipment… including the key!

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Damnit!

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Wait a second… we may not have something to open this panel, but we do have someone: Robo.



                                                              ROBO

                                                              I am uncertain if this will work, but I will try, friends.

                                                               

                                                              Robo’s brings his digits close together, and his hand begins to spin like a drill. Slowly, his fist grinds up against the metal shearing open a small space. The drill spins down and Robo carefully bends the metal out of place revealing a number of different blinking lights and wires.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              Fascinating…

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (hurried)

                                                              Lucca, I think we’re on a bit of a timeline here.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              Robo, I’ll need your help. These look like data wires, but I don’t have any of my tools. I’ll need to use some of your ports.

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              How may I be of help?

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              Grab that blue wire, and try inserting it into your serial port.

                                                               

                                                              Robo pops open his main hatch, and tears the wire out of the wall. The lights briefly flicker then return until he inserts the wires into the port. Robo briefly vibrates and sparks fly at the point of contact.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (concerned)

                                                              Robo, are you ok?!

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              (speaking quickly)

                                                              Voltage levels within acceptable parameters. I will be ok!

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (relieved)

                                                              Thank goodness… alright, let’s see here…

                                                               

                                                              Lucca accesses the small control panel within Robo, until eventually, something is revealed.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (proudly)

                                                              It looks like… yes! I can access the security system! Oh...

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Oh? What is it?

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              I can access the camera and some other internal systems, but not the doors… but it looks like they left our equipment in a room not far from here!

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Ok… that’s something.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              There’s a series of ventilation shafts connecting the different room… including one that connects this cell and that room.

                                                               

                                                              Nick T is tapping his foot anxiously until suddenly he bursts out.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Of course, that’s it! Robo, give me a boost.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              What?

                                                               

                                                              Nick T struggles to reach the vent, then just barely manages to pull it free.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [struggling]

                                                               

                                                              The metal grate falls to the ground, rattling and clanging.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Success!



                                                              NICK G

                                                              What are you doing?! We’re going to get caught.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              Oh! I get it! You’ll need a way to keep in touch… little did they know that I, genius inventor Lucca, have a working radio in my helmet!

                                                               

                                                              Lucca hands the helmet over to Nick T.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              It’s already connected to Robo, so we should be able to talk both ways.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (frustrated)

                                                              Could someone please explain what is going on?!

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Oh… yeah. Well, one of us needs to crawl through the vents to the other room and get our stuff back. That’s it, that’s the plan.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              We’re not going to vote on it or anything?

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [struggling to climb into vent]

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Well, last time, you saved me, so it’s my turn to return the favour.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              I almost died, and I’m pretty sure you did. You think this is going to settle the score?!

                                                               

                                                              Nick T starts army crawling down the vent, and we can hear his voice echo back down the vent.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Baby steps, G!

                                                               

                                                              The radio crackles to life as T begins down the small shaft.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              I have a visual on your location.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              The route is only about fifty meters, but there are guards below and a few fans I’ll need to disable along the way, so you’ll need to be stealthy. I’ll warn you as you get closer to obstacles.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              Got it.

                                                               

                                                              A beat passes

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              Lucca… do you ever wonder what it would be like if things were different?

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (confused)

                                                              What? I don’t understand.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              If we didn’t have to worry… about getting home, or Lavos, or whatever it is Azala is planning.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              No, I mean, I can’t understand what you’re saying. Your voice got so low and gravely.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              Oh. I’m trying to avoid alerting the guards. I don’t want to speak too loudly.



                                                              LUCCA

                                                              It’s... a little bit strange.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              Well, what do you suggest?

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              There are guards below you right now, so for now, try not talking.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              Understood.

                                                               

                                                              Nick T continues army crawling.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              You’re clear! In a few meters, you should hear a ventilation fan. I’m going to disable it, but you’ll need to hurry though.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              I can hear it… it’s disabled! I’m going through. Thanks Lucca.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (lying)

                                                              You know what? I’m seeing a lot of guards here... I’m going to disable the electronic lock on the vent into that room, but after that we should maintain radio silence.

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              I am not detecting any guards near T’s location.

                                                               

                                                              Lucca covers the microphone.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              Shhhhh! I just want him to stop with that creepy voice.

                                                               

                                                              Down below, a large stack of crates is piled up to the ceiling vent, and a lone Basher guards a chest. T slowly lowers himself down from the vent, climbs down the crates and tip-toes to the chest.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (mildly impressed)

                                                              Wow, do you think that he’ll actually pull it off?

                                                               

                                                              BASHER

                                                              [sleeping sounds]

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              I haven’t known the two of you long, but you’ve been friends for a long time, right? What do you think?

                                                               

                                                              Nick G pauses for a second to think. T opens the chest.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (hesitantly)

                                                              Ehhhhhhhhhh?

                                                               

                                                              We can hear T over the radio

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (triumphant)

                                                              Yes! Got it!

                                                               

                                                              BASHER

                                                              Who said that?! Guards!

                                                               

                                                              The Basher pounds a large red button on the wall that triggers a ship-wide alarm. Red lights descend from the ceilings and klaxons go off everywhere.

                                                               

                                                              Dalton’s voice booms over the ship’s loudspeakers.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (annoyed)

                                                              I want a full report on the situation now!

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Uh… now what?

                                                               

                                                              Over Robo’s radio, we can hear laser blasts, explosions, and… maniacal laughter.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [maniacal laughter]



                                                              NICK T

                                                              (gravely)

                                                              This is a stealth mission; no survivors.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              What?!

                                                               

                                                              Outside the cell, various footsteps and screams can be heard along the metallic pathways.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (chipper)

                                                              It sounds like T found our equipment!

                                                               

                                                              Lucca reactivates the radio.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              If you can bring back the equipment here, I can talk you through some of my tools and we should be able to break out of here.

                                                               

                                                              Something attaches itself to the outside of the door, and we can hear a rapidly increasing digital ticking before there’s a small explosion on the door. The door slides open.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (terrible Arnold impression)

                                                              Come with me if you want to live.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (unimpressed)

                                                              The worst. Terrible.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              There’s an energy signature a few floors below that matches the Epoch. I think if we had this way, I can get us down there and we should be able to escape through the main hangar!

                                                               

                                                              Before anyone can respond, we hear a familiar voice.



                                                              DALTON

                                                              You made it this far. Maybe I underestimated you...

                                                               

                                                              Dalton unleashes a flurry of blasts, knocking everyone down… except for G. He holds G by the neck.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              [struggling, half-choked]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              I didn't think they'd make it so easy on me! [maniacal laughter]

                                                               

                                                              EPISODE DISCUSSION

                                                              (To be transcribed)

                                                               

                                                              Part 2 

                                                               

                                                              The party is now squeezed into a freight elevator. Nizbel III holds Lucca, Robo, and Nick T, while Nick G is held captive by Dalton. Delightful elevator music plays in the background.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              I don’t know why we couldn’t have just taken the stairs…

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              (embarrassed)

                                                              You know that my massive muscles don’t fit down those tiny corridors…

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              Of course… you idiot!

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              [whimpers]

                                                               

                                                              Nick T struggles for a moment to break free, kicking at the air towards Dalton.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [struggling to kick]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (threatening)

                                                              Stay back. The life of this man means nothing to me!

                                                               

                                                              The elevator slowly lowers in relative silence, and as it reaches its lowest floor, we can hear an echoing of many voices cheering in the main hangar. A voice booms over a speaker as the lift finally eases to its bottom.

                                                               

                                                              SOLDIER

                                                              ...Now, bow, and pay homage to our new lieges: King Dalton, and Empress Azala!

                                                               

                                                              CHORUS

                                                              All hail our King and Empress!

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              What is this? What is going on?!



                                                              DALTON

                                                              (boasting)

                                                              With the old crone and the pesky Gurus gone… I’ve declared Zeal the new Kingdom of Dalton!

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              (scolding)

                                                              How is it that you cannot handle such pathetic little apes?

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (muttering)

                                                              Grr… the geezer speaks…

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              (reprimanding)

                                                              What was that?!

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (containing rage)

                                                              Nothing, my liege.

                                                               

                                                              Azala speaks into the microphone.

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              (charismatic)

                                                              Humans have had this planet for too long… they have carelessly destroyed its many resources, poisoned the planet, and even allowed it to come to its own destruction!

                                                               

                                                              Somehow, images of these events are being projected onto a large wall of the hanger.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Where did she get these? How is she doing this?!

                                                               

                                                              Azala turns away from the microphone

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              Silence!

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              Even in the far future, they toil and suffer… Mother earth has deemed the humans unworthy!



                                                              AZALA

                                                              Long ago, I had a vision of a distant future, one where those in power live in harmony with nature. A future ruled by the descendants of the reptites, who were wrongfully removed from this world millions of years ago.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (dawning realization)

                                                              Oh no…

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              But now… the time has come! The time for all of that to change! To set the world on its true path… for the falsehoods to be cast away so that all may know the path of the righteous.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (dawning realization)

                                                              Oh no...

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              The way… of the reptites, begins today!

                                                               

                                                              Azala presses a button and the hanger bay opens. The dim interior slowly lights up, revealing the Epoch, and numerous wires and cables attached to the K33-Y. As the light makes its way deeper into the hanger, there are also huge piles of what appear to be explosives.

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              Though I am loath to admit it, I must thank these… cunning [blech] apes. Through their continued failures, we now have the technology to change history, and you have all been deemed worthy to witness and enact this world-changing endeavour!

                                                               

                                                              The crowd gasps in awe.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              (angry)

                                                              Dalton, you son of a bitch!

                                                               

                                                              Nick G kicks Dalton in his side, and struggles to wrestle free.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              [struggling]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              [briefly pained]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (under his breath)

                                                              Do anything funny and you’re dust, got it?

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (shocked)

                                                              You… you’ve messed around with the Epoch!

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (angry)

                                                              And you sold out all of humanity?! For what!?

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (proudly)

                                                              Of course! It’s a small price to pay for... immortality! [maniacal laugh]

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              I am detecting several high density explosive devices in the vicinity.

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              This will allow us to protect our home, and rain fire down on those filthy apes.

                                                               

                                                              Azala presses another button and the epoch activates, creating a massive gate at the end of the hangar bay. An uncomfortable energy fills the air… and eventually we can see what appear to be glimpses of the long past.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              This… it’s impossible!

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              I am detecting an immense distortion of space time linked to sixty-five million B.C.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (whispering)

                                                              We’ve got to do something or she’s going to wipe out all of humanity

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              [struggles]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              Pathetic. That will get you nowhere.

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              The gate is highly unstable. There is a high probability that it might collapse if there is a sufficient disturbance nearby.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [power up noises]



                                                              Nick begins tensing up, and there’s a certain pressure building up around him. Music begins to swell in the background.

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              Oooooh, it tickles.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (concerned)

                                                              T?

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [power up noises]

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              W, what's this strange force? Could this be...Lavos's energy?!

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              [more powering up]

                                                               

                                                              NIZBEL III

                                                              (irritated)

                                                              Hot! It’s hot now! Ouch!

                                                               

                                                              For just a moment, Nizbel lets go of T

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              Dark Bomb!

                                                               

                                                              The dark energy that had slowly been forming around T condenses into a ball, and in his moment of freedom he hurls it at Azala.The resulting explosion knocks Azala back, and Dalton aside. The control panel is damaged, and the portal begins to warble and distort, causing portions of the ship to be sucked in and damaged.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (excited)

                                                              Holy crap, I did it! I did magic!

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Shit yeah! Congratulations!

                                                               

                                                              Suddenly, small explosions and rumbles start occurring across the hanger as the dark bomb and destabilizing gate takes its toll. Fires begin to rage and smoke fills the hanger.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              [cough] We’ve got to get the key and get out of here!

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              Structural collapse of this vessel is imminent.

                                                               

                                                              There is a large creaking noise as the ship begins to tilt heavily to one side. The epoch slides briefly, then is caught by a few tethers holding it into place.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              The epoch is just over there. Let’s get it unlatched and get out of here.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              I’ll get the key! We’ll need it to get you two home after this!

                                                               

                                                              Nick G frantically unsnaps the different bungies and clasps trying to free the Epoch. The ship rumbles and the Epoch heaves. Nick T drops into one of the front seats and begins examining the controls. Robo sits in the driver seat and begins toggle switches and dials as the Epoch slowly comes online.



                                                              NICK T

                                                              But there’s only three seats!

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              You think I care? Cuddle up to someone, we don’t have time to be choosey here!

                                                               

                                                              Lucca is struggling to untangle the key from the monstrosity of wires.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (shouting)

                                                              I’ve almost got the key… just a few more wires.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (wounded)

                                                              Not… so… fast…!

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              (surprised)

                                                              Dalton?!

                                                               

                                                              We can’t see the source, but blood is dripping down Dalton’s face. He’s taken a lot of damage from the chaos swirling around him.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (pained, winded)

                                                              All my work... will be in vain... if I... expire before I'm immortal!

                                                               

                                                              G draws his sword, and both Lucca and T draw pistols which briefly power on.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (pained, winded)

                                                              See those... beautiful wings. That is the throne… of a King! Remove yourselves from the Aero-Dalton Imperial… at once!

                                                               

                                                              From the smoke, Azala emerges, and leaps towards Lucca, wrenching it from her hands. Wires rip from the key causing it further damage.

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              [shrieking attack]

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              (condescending)

                                                              Enough of this you foolish primate!

                                                               

                                                              Azala attempts to activate the device, and another gate opens between the two of them.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (contempt)

                                                              You! Make like the wind... and blow outta here...!

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              (haughty)

                                                              I think not.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (annoyed)

                                                              Very well then… Go! Golem Boss!

                                                               

                                                              Dalton somehow opens another gate. The energy from the three portals begins to coalesce and cause a massive amount of pull between them.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              (confused)

                                                              What? Where are you?!

                                                               

                                                              The wind picks up, and Dalton is pulled into his gate.

                                                               

                                                              DALTON

                                                              Nooooooooo!

                                                               

                                                              ROBO

                                                              The collapse of all gates is imminent. Lucca, we must go.

                                                               

                                                              LUCCA

                                                              No, we need to get the key back!

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              I’ve got it. Get in, Lucca!

                                                               

                                                              Nick G leaps towards Azala, and struggles to pull it from her.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              [tug of war struggle]

                                                               

                                                              AZALA

                                                              [tug of war struggle]

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Got it! Let’s go!

                                                               

                                                              Nick G runs to the Epoch, and jumps onto its back. Slowly, Robo activates the jets and it begins to rise up into the air. Explosions continue to rock the ship.

                                                               

                                                              NICK G

                                                              Here, take this!

                                                               

                                                              Nick G tosses the key into the Epoch, but just as he does that, Azala leaps onto the ship and takes him down… just as the Epoch blasts out of  the hanger.

                                                               

                                                              NICK T

                                                              (distraught)

                                                              G!

                                                               

                                                              The Epoch escapes the hanger, and from behind them explosions rock the Blackbird, some bits being torn apart and others ripped into the portals. The remainder cascade into the sea…

                                                              40 min
                                                            • Fire and Ice: A Surprising Duo [Book 3, Chapter 8]

                                                              Our heroes-to-be reach a pivotal moment in the world of Chrono Trigger as familiar face and friend Marle has a chance encounter with Nick G just before the Millennial Fair. But could that moment cause a ripple in space time that causes the Robo and Lucca we know to cease to be? There’s only one day of fairground fun to try to turn things around!

                                                               

                                                              In our world, T and G dig into the key characters of this episode: the tomboy princess, Marle, and the genius inventor, Lucca! What do they talk about? Glad you asked!

                                                              • ...Marle and Lucca (no surprises here
                                                              • 40 min
                                                              • Elements of Magic: Mechanics and Minutiae [Book 3, Chapter 7]

                                                                The mystery of the rapidly expanding anomalies will have to wait because the party finds itself face-to-face with… the end of time? Well known to our Chrono Trigger companions, the presence of old friends is a bit unusual to say the least. Perhaps, like a certain egg, it presents a certain opportunity?

                                                                In our world, T and G try to talk about a key component of the world of Chrono Trigger: magic! Unfortunately, they get a bit distracted talking about…

                                                                • The origin and nature of magic in the world of Chrono Trigger? How on earth is everything made up of just four elements? And how did it start??
                                                                • A lot of mechanics of Chrono Trigger! Specifically, how techs work and how they play out in the game
                                                                • The end of magic?
                                                                • 41 min
                                                                • Geno Dome: A Desperate Future [Book 3, Chapter 6]

                                                                  With their time travel device damaged and losing power, the party must try to find a way to keep it working long enough to fix the anomalies and get the Nicks home. But where in the world of Chrono Trigger would there be enough power for something like time travel? Perhaps a visit to a certain AI would do the trick?

                                                                  In our world, T and G try to understand more about this understated section of the game, and maybe what could have been improved on. In particular...

                                                                  • What is going on in this sidequest: How do you get to it, and what might you expect to find?
                                                                  • Atropos and Mother Brain! Their origins, and the role they play in Robo’s story (and the story of the game)
                                                                  • Missed potential: How could they have tied this sidequest better into the plot of the game, and into Robo’s character development in particular (and briefly why the developers might not have been able to do this)

                                                                  • Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by Nick Terwoord. Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.

                                                                    Episode Cast

                                                                    Alphabetically, by actor:

                                                                    • D Morton in the role of Atropos
                                                                    • Nick G in the role of his fictional self and discussion host
                                                                    • Nick T in the role of his fictional self, Robo, and discussion host
                                                                    • Sofa-Cushion in the role of Mother Brain
                                                                    • SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear
                                                                    • Musical Credits
                                                                      • [00:00] Think think think think... Inception by The ARTISANS Beats used under Jamendo’s standard license
                                                                      • [00:35] Mad with power: ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Elements of Time" by Andrew Thompson, Fernando Valencia, Kristy Mezines from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                      • [01:48] Anomaly detected: ReMix: Xenogears "Omen (R3 Mix)" by R3FORGED from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                        • [03:08] Acceptable parameters? Candy Corn: They Saved Robo’s Brain! (Chrono Trigger) by YoshiBlade from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                          • [05:52] Wel-come, home: ReMix: Super Metroid "Beyond the Glass" by Sam Dillard from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                          • [28:11] WARNING! Super Metroid: Relics of the Chozo: Escaping Retribution (Escape) by Protricity from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                          • [32:18] Oh no... ReMix: Super Metroid "Beyond the Glass" by Sam Dillard from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                          • [33:56] Why, Prometheus? ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Glenn" by Squint from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                          • [35:30] The anomaly... ReMix: Chrono Trigger "When All Hope Has Faded" by Tyler Heath, zircon from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy 
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                                                                            Additional Notes

                                                                            Background: What is even going on?

                                                                            • Towards the end of the game, you get a hint from Gaspar, “There's a task to be done in the Future, where machinery originated”
                                                                            • If you fly around in 2300 AD, eventually you can find a small island with only one destination: the Geno dome (or in Japanese, the Genocidome… not very subtle)
                                                                            • If you bring Robo to the front of your party, Mother Brain will let him and the disgusting humans into the building
                                                                            • For a sidequest, kind of neat! A bit of dungeon crawling, some platforming-esque bits where you need to charge up and run between rooms to unlock doors, and even solve some puzzles by escorting a robot and placing some macguffins (dolls) to clear a passage
                                                                            • Also introduced to “important” characters in Robo’s past
                                                                              • Atropos XR (Atropos 145)
                                                                                • Robo’s companion (or possibly something more?) and partner in crime to KILL ALL HUMANS
                                                                                • ...Haha, just kidding. She was brainwashed, and now she’s dead. You killed her.
                                                                                • Boss fight-wise, not super interesting: Has the same moves as you BUT you have to face her 1-1
                                                                                • Interestingly, in greco-roman mythology, Atropos is one of the fates, goddesses who determine human destinies (in particular, lifespan and allotment of misery and suffering)
                                                                                  • Atropos is the “Inevitable” or “Inflexible” fate. She was the one who had the scissors to render the decision of the three fates (i.e. to cut the thread and end human life)
                                                                                  • Not sure that there’s more to the name than that
                                                                                  • Mother Brain
                                                                                    • Creator of Atropos… and Robo!
                                                                                    • Unclear what her original purpose was, but post-Lavos’ eruption, has become corrupted and now wants robots to rule the world!
                                                                                    • Contrary to the English translation, does not support Lavos:
                                                                                      • English: “This world COULD sustain them...if humans were not around… We robots will create a new order… A nation of steel, and pure logic. A true paradise!”
                                                                                      • Japanese: “This planet WILL recoVER. If only humans weren't here...… And the new world of we robots WOULD be constructed. A country of iron...... a utopia with neither hatred nor sorrow.”
                                                                                      • Boss-wise, not too tricky
                                                                                        • Actually has less HP than Atropos!
                                                                                        • As long as you leave one display alive, she won’t go berserk
                                                                                          • Berserk is bad: deals a lot of damage to all party members
                                                                                          • Each display only has 1 HP, so be careful. You can put them to sleep with Lucca’s Hypnowave, a move we have never used
                                                                                          • Can technically charm a Blue Mail of of her if you like
                                                                                          • And after that… voila! No more human killing, the plant is shut down forever.
                                                                                          • Also, you can get the Terra Arm (Robo’s strongest weapon) and the Crisis Arm (Robo’s strongest weapon?)
                                                                                          •  

                                                                                            Speculation: Why was this quest a thing?

                                                                                            • We love Chrono Trigger, but sometimes when you put something under the microscope you notice things you wouldn’t normally see
                                                                                            • The Geno Dome: It exists to euthanize humans… why?
                                                                                              • The robots are clearly stronger than humans, and at this point, even with the party’s, there are barely any left alive
                                                                                              • The new characters
                                                                                                • Atropos and Mother Brain are brand new; never revealed before
                                                                                                • Hard to get attached to them as a result
                                                                                                  • Yes, it’s sad that Robo has to beat up Atropos (and kind of ties back to the earlier R-series fight in a different way), but doesn’t have the same emotional impact
                                                                                                  • Mother Brain is a killer AI (remember, this was 1995, Terminator, System Shock, and many other similar concepts had come out) without much of a motivation
                                                                                                    • …And we don’t really know what she was for before? Also, I don’t think you need a super advanced AI to build a bunch of killing machines
                                                                                                    • Both of them lie to Robo… but it’s hard to believe because there’s no hint of them before, and nothing Robo has done makes their behaviour plausible
                                                                                                      • In other media, this might be made plausible by hinting at a character’s terrible past, but Robo is just a good boy™ 
                                                                                                      • Mechanics
                                                                                                        • Lots of neat elements, as previously mentioned, but kind of a pain
                                                                                                        • Every time you enter the factory, you have to do a short fight gauntlet. Other fights are mostly avoidable but still
                                                                                                        • What’s the lesson?
                                                                                                          • Each character sort of has a theme central to their character and a bit of development over the course of the game, this is expressed especially in their sidequests
                                                                                                          • Robo’s theme is largely about identity
                                                                                                            • Early on, was called “defective” by others
                                                                                                            • Here, he’s a spy! Meant to infiltrate humans so that they can be exterminated
                                                                                                              • Haha, nope
                                                                                                              • Also, this doesn’t make any sense; the timelines don’t work out
                                                                                                              • Later, just accepting himself (but not really related to sidequest)
                                                                                                              • We already get a bit of Robo’s identity in the oddly focussed “Fiona’s sidequest”: Robo is a good person who wants to help, and comfort, and be kind
                                                                                                                • Literally none of that here
                                                                                                                • If all the sidequests are ultimately about the planet… this one only sort of fits; it’s about if humans or machines should inherit the earth…
                                                                                                                  • But the humans gave up, so why not give it to the robots??
                                                                                                                  • ...Is it just padding? To round out the cast (Ayla doesn’t even get a sidequest)
                                                                                                                  •  

                                                                                                                    Discussion: Was Robo done dirty here?

                                                                                                                    • Or Atropos, or Mother Brain, even?
                                                                                                                    • Chrono Trigger is a short, polished game, obviously don’t have time to dig into everything for a character
                                                                                                                      • (Unlike FF6 which was actually designed around its wide cast of characters)
                                                                                                                      • Also, it’s often better to leave people wanting more than to give them too much
                                                                                                                      • Great example which I will not elaborate very much on: Robo’s role in Chrono Cross:
                                                                                                                        • X
                                                                                                                        • The idea of Atropos and Mother Brain are kind of cool (though Mother Brain’s coolness is diminished dramatically by just being an evil AI), but didn’t get to fit well into the story
                                                                                                                          • How could their stories have been fleshed out? Better brought into the game?
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                                                                                                                            Links
                                                                                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Translation_Differences.html#Nation_of_Steel_and_Spawn.3F
                                                                                                                              Translation Differences - Chrono Compendium
                                                                                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Geno_Dome.html
                                                                                                                              Geno Dome - Chrono Compendium
                                                                                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Atropos_XR.html
                                                                                                                              Atropos XR - Chrono Compendium
                                                                                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Mother_Brain.html
                                                                                                                              Mother Brain - Chrono Compendium
                                                                                                                            • https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger/The_Fated_Hour#Robo.27s_sidequest_.28optional.29
                                                                                                                              Chrono Trigger/The Fated Hour - StrategyWiki
                                                                                                                            • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Sidequests.html#Origin_of_Machines
                                                                                                                              Sidequests - Chrono Compendium
                                                                                                                            • https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563538-chrono-trigger/faqs/31563
                                                                                                                              Game Script by Zeality - GameFAQs
                                                                                                                            • Transcript

                                                                                                                              Part 1

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              INT. THE END OF TIME - A LIBRARY IN AN ENDLESS VOID

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The situation is tense: Lucca and Nick T are pacing around the room while Nick G is flipping through books desperately trying to find details about a potential power source tapping his foot as he does.. Robo is running calculations audibly for all to hear.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (mechanically)

                                                                                                                              Calculating… calculating… calculating

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (flustered)

                                                                                                                              What if we got the Sun Stone? Would that have enough power?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (pondering)

                                                                                                                              No… we don’t have time to charge a moon stone and where would we even find a sun stone?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (epiphany)

                                                                                                                              We could siphon energy from the Mammon Machine! Lavos has an infinite supply of energy!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (not convinced)

                                                                                                                              Really? Raw Lavos energy?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (increasing maniacal)

                                                                                                                              Of course! We’ll take from the mighty Lavos! It could provide us with limitless power! In fact… with that much power... I might be able to control the universe... forever!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              [laughs maniacally]

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              There is an uncomfortable pause.



                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (meekly)

                                                                                                                              Are we the baddies?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Nick G snaps a book shut from a nearby table, and quickly retorts.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (indignantly)

                                                                                                                              Ok Queen Zeal. Maybe tapping into the evil space leech-- a thing that wiped an entire civilization off the map--might not be a great idea.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (suddenly embarrassed)

                                                                                                                              Oh, my... I’m sorry.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (relieved)

                                                                                                                              It’s ok! T also was a bit, uh, out-of-sorts when he looked into the Lavos bucket.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (traumatized)

                                                                                                                              I have seen the dark universe yawning… where the black planets roll without aim... where they roll in their horror unheeded… without knowledge, or lustre, or name.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Again, there is a pause.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (exhausted)

                                                                                                                              Maybe we’re overthinking this.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Nick G stands up and begins walking about the room, soon making his way to the old experiment. Once a useful piece of technology, now, a hunk of scrap parts. He fumbles about with a large tarp draped over it and several metal parts come clanging down as it is removed.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              What about your experiment, T... the one that got us here?



                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (curious)

                                                                                                                              What about it?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Before Lucca arrived, didn’t you somehow manage to hook that up to… Mother Brain?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Nick G’s last few words are cut-off or otherwise spoken over.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (unnerved)

                                                                                                                              Calculations complete... Anomaly detected.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (slightly disappointed)

                                                                                                                              Whatever, we’ll figure it out later.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (nervous)

                                                                                                                              I have detected... an anomaly in twenty-three hundred A.D...

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (concerned)

                                                                                                                              Robo, are you ok? You sound worried.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (nervous)

                                                                                                                              The anomaly is… peculiar. It is obscured by all of my sensors, and I am unable to calculate precise coordinates. Something about it leaves my circuits feeling… unsettled.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (comforting)

                                                                                                                              Don’t worry about it Robo, we’ve got your back. Everything is going to be alright.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Whatever is at… whatever this anomaly is, we’ll face it together!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Alright! We just need to enter the coordinates…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Lucca begins to quickly interact with the K-33Y before hitting the ‘activate’ button. The device powers up slightly, then fizzles out.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (perplexed)

                                                                                                                              Um… just need to enter these coordinates?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Again, Lucca attempts the sequence and hits activate. The device powers on more strongly, then fizzles out again.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (frustrated)

                                                                                                                              Hmmm… the warp field seems to be affected… B-but I can fix it!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Lucca tosses a few random items from her Satchel until she finds a screwdriver. With a few quick adjustments, she enters the coordinates and the portal springs open.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (relieved)

                                                                                                                              Success!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              As the party approaches the portal and prepares to disembark, it suddenly bends and wobbles unstably.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (concerned)

                                                                                                                              Is it… supposed to do that?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (certain)

                                                                                                                              All sensor readings indicate that the gate is operating within acceptable parameters: Do not be deceived by its external appearance.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (with trepidation)

                                                                                                                              Acceptable parameters? Um… ok...

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              INT. RUINED CONTROL ROOM- RUSTED BUT OPERATIONAL

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              It is a dark room filled with lots of now defunct technology. The walls are lined with many inactive displays, bundles of conduit, and metal panels while the floor has a mish-mash of cables and catwalks. We can only hear the echoing of footsteps on metal gratings and stairs as they traverse the darkness.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              How is it so dark? It’s like there’s no light at all.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Well, I don’t remember seeing a lot of sunlight in the future…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (coyly)

                                                                                                                              Robo, could you… illuminate the situation? [giggle]

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (miffed)

                                                                                                                              Ugh, really?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              We hear Robo’s ocular sensors adjust and begin to shine cones of light around the room. With more detail, it is clear that these are Mother Brain’s chambers.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (concerned)

                                                                                                                              Oh my... Is this where I think it is?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The wind howls in the background.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Affirmative… it is the Geno dome.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Or as it is otherwise known, the Genocide dome.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              There is a beat where we only hear the howl of the wind.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (turning a corner)

                                                                                                                              Ok, yeah, that’s bad, but if we’re in the Geno Dome… maybe we can kill three birds with one stone?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              I am unfamiliar with that expression.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (confused)

                                                                                                                              Yeah… what are you talking about, G?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              We’re here for the anomaly right? What if we could handle that, and shut down Mother Brain and the Geno Dome for good?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Lucca snaps her fingers.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (excited)

                                                                                                                              Of course! If we route power from Mother Brain’s mainframe to the key we could power it up and power her down! Genius!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Lucca frantically begins investigating the room, routing through piles of metallic detritus and pulling out cables.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (ecstatic)

                                                                                                                              If we connect that wire here… and this here… and run that cable to the key… yes, this might just do it! Everyone, get me the biggest cables you can find!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Everyone except Nick G begins rummaging through the scraps.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Is it really a good idea to just start rummaging around here? What if Mother Brain wakes up?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Yeah, and is it just me, or do some of these cables look a lot… newer (?) than the rest? It’s almost like someone has been here recently.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              I also feel uneasy, but do not worry, friends: Mother Brain is only able to interface with external sensors, and no external sensors are active in our proximity.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Ok… well, let’s get to it then!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              As the group begins collecting and connecting wires, there is the faint sound of clicking further down the hallway.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Stop… we must hide. I am detecting something approaching.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Everyone quickly huddles around a corner, and the metallic clicking becomes louder, and closer, almost like footsteps. As the sound gets unnervingly close. It stops. Everyone holds their breath until Robo breaks the tension.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              I am no longer detecting any…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              A large pink figure immediately darts in front of them, eyes glowing red.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (stilted, slowly, unnervingly calm)

                                                                                                                              Wel-come home, Pro-metheus…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (surprised)

                                                                                                                              Atropos...?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Yes, it's been a-while… Prome-theus.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              Oh crap, this can’t be good



                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              What are you doing, Pro-me-theus?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (defiantly)

                                                                                                                              My name is Robo!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Step back... Pro-metheus.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Atropos’ servos begin to whir and steam starts to come out of her vents as she powers up.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              We must complete our operations! I will distract her. Hurry!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Immediately, everyone jumps into action, connecting wires and other electrical devices. Atropos and Robo slowly circle each other.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Have they tam-pered with you? You don’t want to go see Mother…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              I won’t allow you to hurt them!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              I can fix you, Prome-theus

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (struggling)

                                                                                                                              I-I think I’ve got it!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Activate the device!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Lucca begins to input codes into the device, and various dynamos and contraptions in the room begin to hum, whir, and glow faintly as they power up. Before too long, there’s a strange electrical explosion and everything powers down, including the portal.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Oh shit! The gate just went down!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The quiet silence of the empty factory quickly gives way to the sound of many different robots slowly coming online. Atropos’ voice is no longer stilted, but still retains it’s cold indifferent edge.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              I can’t let you do that.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The displays of the room light up, and at its center, the figure of a woman begins to take shape.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (with authority)

                                                                                                                              Who enters here unbidden?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (curious)

                                                                                                                              Oh…!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (threateningly)

                                                                                                                              Welcome home, R66-Y

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              EPISODE DISCUSSION

                                                                                                                              (To be transcribed)

                                                                                                                              Part 2

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              INT. RUINED CONTROL ROOM- RUSTED BUT OPERATIONAL

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Various dynamos and servos are fully powered and online, and the hologram of Mother Brain looms over the party and Atropos.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Step back, Prometheus!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Atropos activates powerful wheels on her feet to quickly drive around the party and push them out of the room. She pulls on a large lever, and two giant blast doors seal the entrance to Mother Brain’s chambers. The room begins to flash red as sirens and klaxons go off across the Geno Dome.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (confused)

                                                                                                                              I do not understand. What are you doing, Atropos?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Yeah, you don’t seem to be trying to kill us. I’m confused.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (sympathetic)

                                                                                                                              Unlike the other R-series, Prometheus had a special task. To live with humans and study them as a species… I am not familiar with human customs. It has been nearly three hundred years since I have even monitored a human.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Wait wait wait… what about Mother Brain? It sure sounded like you’re working with her!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Negative. I merely was expressing that you do not want to see Mother: She will have you humans executed and immediately reprogram you, Prometheus.



                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              I do not wish any of you harm. In fact I have calculated that your arm actuators are operating at 37% below peak efficiency, Prometheus, and can help repair them.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              But why do you continue to call me Prometheus?!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              My memory circuits indicate that is your designation. Is it no longer so? It has been many years since we were last in contact… Robo.



                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (unbelievable)

                                                                                                                              Oh my god, really? The spooky future robot isn’t trying to kill us? We really fucked that one up.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              I am sorry, Robo. I want to help you.




                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Atropos...

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Without warning, there’s a screech of feedback momentarily over a nearby factory loudspeaker. Again, we can hear the activation of many robots across the factory as it speaks.



                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (menacingly)

                                                                                                                              You dare to defile this place with humans? I haven't seen them in ages. Let me… welcome them.



                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              I get the feeling that she’s not exactly going to greet us with open arms...

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              I might be able to get the key back online… but we’re going to need to get out of here or find a safe place to hide.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Mother Brain’s circuitry is likely causing electromagnetic interference. If you follow me, I can help you to reach the exit.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Hold on

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Nick G pulls everyone together into a tight huddle.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              Do we really trust her?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              What choice do we have?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              There is a pause.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              If Robo trusts her, then I trust her.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              I trust her. Let us go.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The party begins running down the hallways of the facility as we enter a quick montage of attacks and explosions. As everyone is battling, Mother Brain is taunting the party over the internal loudspeakers.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Flamethrower!



                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              Three hundred  years ago, the Lavos disaster greatly changed the planet…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Rocket Punch!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Rocket Punch!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Uh… eldritch blast?! [shoots gun]

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (taunting)

                                                                                                                              At this rate, humans will die out from pure despair. Fu hu hu

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Napalm!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Robo Tackle!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Laser Spin!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Sneak attack!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              Listen well, humans. Lavos's children will one day have to leave to seek new planets, and prey.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Megaton Bomb!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Rapid-fire Fist!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Area Bomb!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              This world could sustain them… if humans were not around…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Fire Punch!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Fire Punch!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Fire Punch!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              We have almost reached the exit!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The party has reached a long corridor with a series of blast doors. As the doors begin to close, the party runs ahead, each door getting closer to sealing in front of them.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              I don’t think we’re gonna make it!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Not if I can help it!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Atropos activates the wheels on her feet and rushes to the blast door, making in it just in time to hold the door open. We can hear the internal and external struggle as the two forces resist each other. Electricity arcs as Atropos struggles to keep the door open. We can hear an army of robots converge on the location from the distance.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Atropos! It’s not worth it! We’ll find another way out.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (sad, struggling)

                                                                                                                              I am… sorry… Robo!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Some sort of metallic cable slithers out from the wall with hundreds of tiny legs, and quickly drills its way into Atropos. The doors stop resisting. The klaxons stop. The other robots stop. The music stops. Atropos powers down.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (uncertainly)

                                                                                                                              We did it?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              There is a pause.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Negative... Something is not right.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The lights flicker for a moment, and Atropos powers back on. She rises up into the room, a long tether connected to her back. The blast doors seal behind her.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Atropos… what are you doing?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Atropos speaks, but we can hear two voices

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              You did well to come this far. I am the Mother Brain of the R-Y series factory.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              You did well to come this far. I am the Mother Brain of the R-Y series factory.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (concerned)

                                                                                                                              Robo…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (upset)

                                                                                                                              No, stop!




                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              Come... Prometheus, you must once again join us.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              Come... Prometheus, you must once again join us.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Robo drops to the ground, and begins pounding his fist into the ground.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (sad, upset)

                                                                                                                              Please stop. Pl...ease....



                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              I'll reset your circuitry and erase your memories. Then... we'll dispose of these filthy humans.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              I'll reset your circuitry and erase your memories. Then... we'll dispose of these filthy humans.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Robo powers up his servos, and steam starts to vent from his core.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (resolved)

                                                                                                                              I cannot afford to lose anything else… Not my precious memories, or my irreplaceable friends.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Robo stands.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Humans have taught me much. I will not betray my friends.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Robo starts walking defiantly towards the monstrosity. His internals continue to power on.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Electro-!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Robo’s rage is interrupted.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              Step back, Robo!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Atropos!?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              P...Pro...me...theus… W...why...?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              I only have a moment to override Mother’s reprogramming. Please... escape now while you can!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Lucca begins to activate the key, but there’s still some distortion.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              It’s working! We must be just out of range… Quickly everyone, back through the gate!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Everyone except Robo hurries into the end of time.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Atropos… save your strength! We can repair you!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              It isn't possi...ble… Vital functions are do...wn… M...memory bank damaged…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The throngs of robots reactivate and again start their way towards the corridor. The entropy of the gate continues to increase.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              There’s no time! Come on Robo!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Nick T and Nick G rush back for Robo, and start dragging him back.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              No, friends, leave me!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The lights flicker, and then go out, section by section.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (slowly)

                                                                                                                              Don't you understand?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ATROPOS

                                                                                                                              (slowly, menacingly)

                                                                                                                              This planet would be peaceful if there were no humans around.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              MOTHER BRAIN

                                                                                                                              (slowly, menacingly)

                                                                                                                              This planet would be peaceful if there were no humans around.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              The distortion of the gate is too much, and collapses.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Welp, add that to the list of times we’ve almost died...

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (foolishly)

                                                                                                                              The key part is almost

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              Hey! Have a little bit of compassion! Robo just lost a friend!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              (sadly)

                                                                                                                              ...Anomaly eliminated.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              LUCCA

                                                                                                                              (confused)

                                                                                                                              What?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              I believe… the anomaly… was Atropos. She... needed to be reprogrammed by Mother Brain.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Oil begins leaking from Robo’s ocular sensors.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (very confused)

                                                                                                                              That… uh… what?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              In our timeline, I did not have the resolve to face Mother Brain. Even with my companions… I felt uneasy. As I have learned human emotions, I did not... and do not want to destroy anyone. I thought that Mother Brain might be redeemed somehow.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              However… after I saw what she had done to Atropos… I knew then that there was no way that she could be redeemed. Or, perhaps, it did not matter. Perhaps my emotions had overcome my logic circuits.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Today, I was reminded of those emotions, and I believe that if Mother Brain had not reprogrammed Atropos… I would not have had the strength to destroy her.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              There is a moment of silence.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Wow… Robo… I’m sorry. That is… a lot.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              Thank you, friend G. I appreciate it.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              ROBO

                                                                                                                              If you all do not mind, I will begin calculating the trajectory to the next anomaly.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              Robo slowly shuffles away to a corner of the room and sits down.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (coyly)

                                                                                                                              Hey... so about those cables in the Geno dome. You know how I mentioned that they looked like they might have been disturbed recently?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Yeah… what’s up?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Do you remember our first trip out of here?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              Do you think that the cables there might look a tiny bit familiar?

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              Wait a second… are you saying that those cables … are ours? Did we cause this?!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              Shhhhh! Keep it down!

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              I think that, in a world where every single possibility is available, it’s possible that it wasn’t Atropos that woke up Mother Brain… it’s possible that it was us.

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK G

                                                                                                                              (whispering)

                                                                                                                              But how does that make any sense?! How did we connect the cables before we arrived here? Ugh… I’ve got a feeling that the answer is time paradox…

                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                              NICK T

                                                                                                                              I can’t say with certainty… but it really makes you think. Is there some sort of entity helping us out… or is it all just randomness?

                                                                                                                              40 min
                                                                                                                            • Mystic Knights: Swordsman, Sorcerer, Sycophant [Book 3, Chapter 5]

                                                                                                                              This is it, the end of our intrepid crew… just kidding! Trapped in a cage of worlds new and old, our heroes must devise a cunning escape plan that will require everything that they know about the world of Chrono Trigger… probably! At the very least they might need to call in help from some unexpected friends…

                                                                                                                              In our world, T and G attempt to unveil the storied past of the trio of misfits Ozzie, Flea, and Slash… if they had one?! In particular:

                                                                                                                              • What we actually know about these characters (surprise! It’s… not a lot). More interestingly, how differences in localization can dramatically alter how the characters are perceived (with a bunch of examples)
                                                                                                                              • A tiny bit about localization in the 90s, and in particular, Nintendo’s localization policy
                                                                                                                              • A lot of speculation around what we don’t know about them, and why such ‘small’ characters (relative to how long they are in the game) have such a big impact. Also, why Flea is the best.
                                                                                                                              • Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by Nick Terwoord. Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.

                                                                                                                                Episode Cast

                                                                                                                                Alphabetically, by actor:

                                                                                                                                • Dan Charrington (aka The Video Ninja) in the role of Ozzie
                                                                                                                                • Manda Whitney in the role of Azala
                                                                                                                                • Nick G in the role of his fictional self, “Magus” and discussion host
                                                                                                                                • Nick T in the role of his fictional self, “Slash”, Robo, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                • Patrick "TrickyLove" Moylan in the role of Nizbel III
                                                                                                                                • SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear and “Flea”
                                                                                                                                • Musical Credits
                                                                                                                                  • [00:00] Context: Inception by The ARTISANS Beats used under Jamendo’s standard license
                                                                                                                                  • [00:05] A delicate situation: ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Subterranean Opus" by zircon from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                                                                                  • [06:27] Trip to the Hardware Store: ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Punk Hairdo Kid" by HyperDuck SoundWorks from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                                                                                  • [31:13] A plan is hatched: ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Subterranean Opus" by zircon from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                                                                                  • [31:49] It’s a g-g-g-dead guy! ReMix: Chrono Trigger "The Dark Defender" by Pavos from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                                                                                  • [34:57] ...than taking you down! ReMix: Chrono Cross "A Timely Victory" by Lemonectric from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                                                                                  • [35:47] You think this changes anything? ReMix: Xenogears "Babel: A Prison of Fate" by bustatunez from http://ocremix.org used under ocremix.org content policy
                                                                                                                                  • Special Announcement: The Race Against Time

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                                                                                                                                    Additional Notes

                                                                                                                                    Background: What we know… maybe

                                                                                                                                    • Oftentimes, background of the game is mechanical (i.e. written into the code), from first-hand sources (e.g. game text, game guides, interviews, notes in related media) or from third-parties (e.g. fans)
                                                                                                                                    • In the case of these three characters… there’s actually a lot that we don’t know!
                                                                                                                                      • Normally we could ‘mine the appendices’ via Chrono Cross… but this trio is only featured as an optional part of New Game Plus
                                                                                                                                      • Similarly, not featured much in fan made games: Flames of Eternity or Crimson Echoes
                                                                                                                                      • Even though Ozzie, Flea, and Slash feel ‘big’ in the context of the game, it makes sense that there’s not a lot on them. They’re not in much of the game!
                                                                                                                                      • Speaking of small changes, there are lots of little ones between English and Japanese versions of the game:
                                                                                                                                        • This is… pretty common with Akira Toryama’s characters
                                                                                                                                        • In the pre-release, even more Toriyama-esque: Still Vinegar, but also Weiner (Slash) and Ketchappa/Ketchup (Flea)
                                                                                                                                        • Curious if the line is the same in Japanese (e.g. Vinegar is in a pickle)
                                                                                                                                          • In Japanese, names are themed after condiments: Vinegar (Ozzie), Soyso/Soy Sauce (Slash), Mayone/Mayonaisse (Flea)
                                                                                                                                          • In English, names are themed after rock band members: Ozzie (Ozzie Osbourne; vocalist from Black Sabbath), Slash (Saul Hudson, AKA Slash; guitarist from Guns N’ Roses), Flea (Michael Balzary, AKA Flea; bassist from Red Hot Chili Peppers)
                                                                                                                                          • ...However, some other differences in the localization change a bit more of these characters than you might expect
                                                                                                                                          • Ozzie
                                                                                                                                            • ...Also makes it much clearer that “Magus” is a title, not a name
                                                                                                                                            • ...Also in the Japanese, clearer that he stole all the gear from Magus’ castle
                                                                                                                                              • English: “You're nothing but common thieves! Anyone who tries to steal my treasure is looking for a VERY cruel death!”
                                                                                                                                              • Japanese: “Come forth, my servants! Make mincemeat of these bastards who are trying to take back the treasure I carried off from Magus Castle!!”
                                                                                                                                                • English: “These unique items make us INVINCIBLE!”
                                                                                                                                                • Japanese: “With these sure-kill items we have equipped, we'll beat you bastards to a bloody lifeless unrecognizable pulp!”
                                                                                                                                                  • English: “Magus! You lied when you said you wanted to create a world of evil! You used me!”
                                                                                                                                                  • Japanese: “Magus-sama...... Are you bent on beating me? Was our dream of fighting together and creating a world of Demons a lie!?”
                                                                                                                                                    • Talked about him at some length in the previous episode, and also in our episode on Zombor… but wait, there’s more!
                                                                                                                                                    • Minor: In the Square with Ozzie’s statue, supposed to be a straight rip-off of Magus’ song in the cathedral, but translated differently in English
                                                                                                                                                    • More interestingly, and this ties to Magus, when you meet Ozzie at his fort, he addresses himself as “the great magus Vinegar”. Vain AF!
                                                                                                                                                    • Also, Ozzie is… uh… a lot more vicious in Japanese. Regarding their unique charmable items, from the fort:
                                                                                                                                                    • ALSO also, less villainous at the same time?
                                                                                                                                                    • Slash
                                                                                                                                                      • “literally termed 'outside method sword fighter'. Two dictionary entries might apply to 外法: one is a Buddhist term for heresy, the other is a sort of demonic arts linked to tengu or using skulls”
                                                                                                                                                        • Frog: It's been a while. Dark Arts Swordsman Soysaw......!
                                                                                                                                                        • Soysaw: I never even thought that you would come this far, Glenn.
                                                                                                                                                        • Soysaw: If Cyrus hadn't been there back then, you would have had the same fate as well.
                                                                                                                                                        • Soysaw: Same as the corpses earlier!
                                                                                                                                                          • Soysaw: Pretty good. Guess I'll get serious for the first time in a while.
                                                                                                                                                          • Soysaw: But without Cyrus, will you......
                                                                                                                                                          • Soysaw: Be able to take me!?
                                                                                                                                                            • Soysaw: Well done......! But being beaten fighting for Magus-sama......
                                                                                                                                                              • English: At first I really didn't want to slice and dice ya, but now it sounds kind of fun!
                                                                                                                                                              • Japanese: I am reluctant to cross swords with my former liege and one whom I revered...... But if this too is fate, I doubt I can help it!
                                                                                                                                                                • In fantastical form, Slash has a much more elaborate name than in English. Instead of ‘the swordsman’, he is “the Dark Arts Swordsman”
                                                                                                                                                                • Also, Frog and Slash are way more respectful of each other. Instead of the mean-spirited “Sir Slush” comments and antagonism (also, way less cocky), you get this exchange:
                                                                                                                                                                • And after the warmup:
                                                                                                                                                                • And in defeat:
                                                                                                                                                                • AND when facing off against Magus at Fort Ozzie, we get these differences:
                                                                                                                                                                • (Generally getting serious shonen / DBZ vibes)
                                                                                                                                                                • Flea
                                                                                                                                                                  • In Japanese, this is intended to be almost sickeningly cute. A rough translation would be to end each sentence with “don’t you know?”
                                                                                                                                                                    • Japanese is hard though
                                                                                                                                                                      • Again, Japanese is hard
                                                                                                                                                                        • Unclear what the nature of the feelings is; given the general vibe of the three generals in the Japanese version, probably romantic
                                                                                                                                                                          • Minor: In Japanese, ends sentences with ‘yo ne’; a play on their name (may-yo-ne)
                                                                                                                                                                          • In the same vein, Japanese has many different ‘levels’ of speech and pronouns to refer to the self. Flea uses the ‘tough’ female tone of dialogue and the ‘atai’ pronoun, like Ayla (minus the ‘speaking live a cave woman’ part).
                                                                                                                                                                          • “During English localization, the nature of Flea's character was partially lost due to Nintendo of America's strict policies on "sexually suggestive or explicit content.". Feminine signifiers, such as a feminine manner of speaking, tildes, long vowel marks, and heart icons were absent in the English version”
                                                                                                                                                                          • Also, the Flea “Vest” (originally, Flea Bra / “Bustier”; concept art is a pushup bra)
                                                                                                                                                                          • In a quiz from Chrono Trigger Ultimania, apparently Flea has feelings for Magus??
                                                                                                                                                                          • A Brief Interlude: Localization (in particular, in the 90s)

                                                                                                                                                                            • Why the big difference in characterization between English and Japanese versions?
                                                                                                                                                                              • Cartoon vs anime vibes
                                                                                                                                                                              • Nintendo’s Code of Conduct, specifically. Legends of Localization has a good overview but to briefly cover the broad strokes (regarding the packaging, in game content, or instruction manuals):
                                                                                                                                                                                • No sexually suggestive or explicit content
                                                                                                                                                                                • No random, gratuitous, and/or excessive violence, including domestic violence or abuse
                                                                                                                                                                                • No graphic illustration of death
                                                                                                                                                                                • No excessive force in a sports game (really)
                                                                                                                                                                                • No stereotyping (religious, ethnic, racial)!
                                                                                                                                                                                • No profanity or obscene gestures
                                                                                                                                                                                • No drugs (or drug related ads, like in sports stadiums)!
                                                                                                                                                                                • No politics (wtf)
                                                                                                                                                                                • Speculation: What we don’t know

                                                                                                                                                                                  • That’s… pretty much all we know about the characters though!
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Why are these three nothings so Team Rocket-ly latched in my brain?!
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Is this the power… of the Chrono Trigger?!
                                                                                                                                                                                      • More positively: Why do these characters feel so much bigger than they are?
                                                                                                                                                                                      • What was the point of Fake Flea? Slash’s warm up?
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Padding? Building up the characters?
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Are they strong? Are they weak?!
                                                                                                                                                                                          • As previously: Ozzie is strong (Necromancy, barriers) and weak (pushover)
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Strong-ish, but tossed aside pretty quickly
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Team Rocket-esque
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Why were they generals / elites?
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Like, what were they responsible for?!
                                                                                                                                                                                            • What is the Zeal Archives?

                                                                                                                                                                                              The Zeal Archives is a monthly podcast exploring the A-Z of the world of Chrono Trigger one bit at a time—two parts audio drama, one part discussion podcast, one hundred percent love letter to one of the best JRPGs of all time!

                                                                                                                                                                                              The Zeal Archives is published at zealarchives.com and thenickscast.com and can be found on most podcatching services. Please leave us comments, questions, criticism, or any other feedback at TheNickscast on Facebook or Twitter.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Links
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Flea.html
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://chrono.fandom.com/wiki/Flea
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea_(Chrono_Trigger)
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Translated_Text_(CTP).html
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Translation_Differences.html
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Supporting_Material_Translation.html#DBT.2FQuiz_Walkthrough_Pages
                                                                                                                                                                                              • https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563538-chrono-trigger/faqs/31563
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 41 min
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mystic War: A Brief History [Book 3, Chapter 4]
                                                                                                                                                                                                You’d think in a world of time travel, monsters, and magic, there’d be cause for excitement, but the grind of going from anomaly to anomaly has taken its toll on Nick T… that is until the party’s next destination is Magus’ castle! What dangerous horrors await within, and is its powerful master home? Hopefully not…
                                                                                                                                                                                                In our world, T and G delve into the real-life Chrono Trigger trigger archives, [the Chrono Compendium](https://www.chronocompendium.com/), to try to understand more about the Mystics in the lore of Chrono Trigger. They discover…
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Who the Mystics are… probably? As it turns out, there are some interesting differences in the English translations and the original Japanese. Plus, there’s a lot that’s never explicitly spelled out in the game
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The history of the Mystics! We know they hate humans… why is that? Is that true? When do they show up, and why are there not more of them in the present (or any in the future)?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Personal opinions! Not so much a discovery as revealing some of the development that would have been nice to see regarding the Mystics.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by [Nick Terwoord](https://nt3rp.io). Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Episode Cast
                                                                                                                                                                                                Alphabetically, by actor:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Dan Charrington (aka The Video Ninja) in the role of Ozzie
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Manda Whitney in the role of Azala
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick G in the role of his fictional self, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick T in the role of his fictional self, Robo, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Patrick "TrickyLove" Moylan in the role of Nizbel III
                                                                                                                                                                                                * SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Musical Credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [00:00] Opening: [Inception](https://www.jamendo.com/track/1208449/inception) by [The ARTISANS Beats](https://www.jamendo.com/artist/464776/the-artisans-beats) used under [Jamendo’s standard license](https://help-licensing.jamendo.com/hc/en-us/articles/211293289-What-can-I-do-with-a-Standard-License-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [02:16] 2spoopy4me: [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "The Dark Defender"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03351) by [Pavos](https://ocremix.org/artist/9847/pavos) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [04:57] Getting out of a pickle: [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Subterranean Opus"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01450) by [zircon](https://ocremix.org/artist/4628/zircon) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [06:07] Subtle subterfuge: [Chrono Symphonic: Confronting the Mystic](https://ocremix.org/album/7/chrono-trigger-chrono-symphonic) by [sephfire](https://ocremix.org/artist/4587/sephfire) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [28:49] The battle commences: [Chrono Symphonic: Confronting the Mystic](https://ocremix.org/album/7/chrono-trigger-chrono-symphonic) by [sephfire](https://ocremix.org/artist/4587/sephfire) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [29:18] The battles… concludes? [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "The Dark Defender"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03351) by [Pavos](https://ocremix.org/artist/9847/pavos) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [30:22] The reptite’s loss: [ReMix: Chrono Cross "Improvisation on a Moment Seized by Time"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02311) by [DrumUltimA](DrumUltimA) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [31:02] A fate grasped by vile hands: [BadAss: Boss Themes: Volume III: The Dark Defender](https://ocremix.org/album/72/badass-boss-themes-volume-iii) by [pu_freak](https://ocremix.org/artist/9847/pavos) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Special Announcement: The Race Against Time
                                                                                                                                                                                                [The Race Against Time](https://raceagainsttime.io) is a twenty-four hour marathon to do two things: raise money for charity, and beat all the endings of the greatest game ever made: Chrono Trigger.
                                                                                                                                                                                                On August 14 and 15, 2021, we’re raising money for [Trans Lifeline](https://translifeline.org/)—a grassroots hotline and microgrants 501(c)(3) non-profit organization offering direct emotional and financial support to trans people in crisis. Join the Nickscast family and friends as we embark on a magical journey to save the world of Chrono Trigger and our own _all_ while giving away fabulous prizes.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Additional Notes
                                                                                                                                                                                                **Who are the mystics?**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Whether you call them mystics (SNES), fiends (DS), or Mazoku (Japanese - literally “demon race”), we don’t get a lot of backstory on who or what these folks are, let alone the war
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Language used differently in English and Japanese
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In the Japanese version, Humans call the Mystics “mamono”. In this context, “ma” translates to “evil / demon” and “mono” as “thing”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Maybe this is a hint towards the humans being kind of racist in 600 AD? Not referring to them as evil people (“majin” or “mazoku”) but just _things_
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “Ted Woolsley altered the dialogue so that everything seems more black and white. In the Japanese version, there were far more gray areas regarding the Guardia War. From what I have seen, Mamono refers to non-intelligent, animal demons. The Japanese have numerous names for demons. This is just one of them”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Three main options are presented by context as to how the mystics came to be
                                                                                                                                                                                                * They evolved in parallel to humans; just another race in the world of Chrono Trigger that gained the capacity for intelligence and magic
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Rapid evolution, like the humans, via the Frozen Flame (Chrono Cross)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Engineered by the people of Zeal to provide security on Mt. Woe… which lines up as 12 000 BC is the first time we see any of the Mystics
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The ‘engineered’ theory adds a lot of anecdotal support when you look at the history that’s available… or if you extrapolate
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The Mystic Army seems to have a sort of hierarchy, not mentioned much in game:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Leader (Ozzie, later Magus as a figurehead)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Elite (Ozzie, Flea, Slash)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Unique Warriors (Yakra, Zombor, Retinite)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * General Army
                                                                                                                                                                                                **A brief history of the Mystics**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The history presented here assumes that the Mystics were engineered; just more interesting that way.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Circa 12 000 BC
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Mystics are engineered to protect Mt. Woe by humans in Zeal
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Zeal falls
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Mystics banded together to establish a settlement on the continent of Medina
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Probably nocturnal until ~1000 AD (we don’t see Mystics in the daytime, generally, up until this point)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * May have been feuds between humans and mystics as far back as here
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Mystics had magic, and looked different, feared by humans
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Probably started a long military tradition of magic warriors to protect themselves
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Circa 600 AD - Before the arrival of Magus
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Built up a lair on Medina to protect themselves and train magic
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Someone of Ozzie’s race started to stoke up animosity between Mystics and humans
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “Ozzie himself was known for wild tirades and savagery, and a growing attitude of resent for humans came to exist” \
                                                                                                                                                                                                “Ozzie preached a doctrine of vile hatred against humans, despite the likelihood that humans left the Mystics alone (as the Medina continent could not be accessed through normal means in the middle ages)”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Ozzie’s family has maintained leadership from 600 AD to 1000 AD (as is evidenced by the chief of Medina, Ozzie VIII) so this is plausible; more on that later
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Circa 600 AD - Magus’ Arrival
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Magus arrives and is adopted by Ozzie
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Unclear as to why he did this: potentially because of Janus’ latent power? This may also be why he was dubbed ‘Magus’; as an indication of Janus’ power
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “Even after his instatement as leader, Magus seemed to only truly fulfill a charismatic role as leader”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Unclear why Magus was accepted as a Mystic and not hated
                                                                                                                                                                                                * An important element left out of the English translation:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “His main reasons for starting his war against Guardia were left out in the English version; however, in the Japanese version, he stated his intentions of gaining the power to immensely increase his chances of defeating Lavos. Seeing his strong magic and strange appearance, most people took him to be a Mystic himself.”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Circa 600 AD - The Mystic War begins
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Likely incited by the Mystics (rather than the humans)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Humans had no means to access Medina; always presented as being on the defense
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Mystics able to travel through the Magic Cave, raid humans
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Guardia protected by Cyrus, Glenn, and the Knights of the Square Table
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The King of Guardia sends Glenn and Cyrus on a quest to obtain the Masamune; the only weapon capable of breaking through Magus’ defenses
                                                                                                                                                                                                * As we know, this backfired resulting in the Masamune breaking, Cyrus dead, and Glenn becoming Frog
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “The Mystics came to accept a doctrine of extreme hatred against humans; this even extended to cannibalism, as practiced by Yakra and his infiltration squad at the Cathedral”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “Additionally, a monster known as Retinite was created and left in Fiona's Forest to ravage the area”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * No idea why this is, but they did it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Eventually the raids on Zenan result in the destruction of Zenan bridge
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “Before the Mystics could step foot on the continent again, Magus summoned Lavos at his lair, effectively killing him in the process. This totally disrupted the Mystic war machine and dismantled the war effort, though hateful feelings toward humans would persist to modern times”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * This is what happens if you don’t show up. Neat!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Which is good because… the humans don’t have magic; wouldn’t be able to compete.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “When Crono changed history, he launched an attack of his own on Magus's Lair, slaughtering several top monsters of the army. This weakened the remaining prejudices in modern times; later, a similar attack on Ozzie's Fort would totally eradicate the negative remainders of the Mystic War.”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Circa 1000 AD
                                                                                                                                                                                                * “In the new city of Medina, the Mystics mimicked human architecture and daily life, while some radicals withdrew to Heckran Cave in rejection of civility”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Several other things change depending on how far along in the plot you are
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The statue in the Square is replaced with one of Ozzie (and has less worshippers) after you defeat Magus
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Everyone is happy (the music has changed) and there are no worshippers after you defeat Ozzie’s fort sidequest
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Also, there’s a ferry to Medina!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * ALSO also, Ozzie VIII gets demoted from chief to cleaner!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Beyond 1000 AD
                                                                                                                                                                                                * It’s speculated that the remaining Mystics flea underground and end up inhabiting the sewers in the ruined Future
                                                                                                                                                                                                * But in the non-ruined future, Medina still exists in 2300 AD and even has a scientist from there working … on a special project in Chrono Cross.
                                                                                                                                                                                                **What would you have liked to see with the Mystics?**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Flea! But we’ll be talking about Ozzie, Slash, and Magus next episode, so kind of a cheat answer.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Where did they come from? Could we get like, a light novel or something on this?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If they were engineered, would have been neat to see that animosity between humans and mystics, reparations, etc.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Honestly, anything on that big time gap (12 000 BC to 600 AD) Mystics or otherwise would have been cool
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Where did all the different lineages come from? Yakra, Retinite, Zombor, Ozzie, Flea, Slash… VERY different looking.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Was the Frog King a mystic?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Would have been cool to see the future of the Mystics?
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## What is the Zeal Archives?
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Zeal Archives is a monthly podcast exploring the A-Z of the world of Chrono Trigger one bit at a time—two parts audio drama, one part discussion podcast, one hundred percent love letter to one of the best JRPGs of all time!
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Zeal Archives is published at [zealarchives.com](https://zealarchives.com) and [thenickscast.com](https://thenickscast.com) and can be found on most podcatching services. Please leave us comments, questions, criticism, or any other feedback at TheNickscast on [Facebook](https://facebook.com/thenickscast) or [Twitter](https://twitter.com/thenickscast).
                                                                                                                                                                                                35 min
                                                                                                                                                                                              • The Green Dream: Ripples Through Time [Book 3, Chapter 3]
                                                                                                                                                                                                The party has tracked down the latest anomaly, but what happens when they are pinned down in a sandstorm in the middle of the middle ages? And can a small act of kindness bloom in the desert of a multi-millennial feud? T, G, Robo, and Lucca will have to depend on new allies to face off against old foes… or will they?
                                                                                                                                                                                                In our world, T and G revisit one of the most eclectic, inspiring, challenging, and surprising sections of the game: the Sunken Desert / Fiona’s sidequest. There’s certainly a lot to cover, but we ‘dig’ into…
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Its difficulty! After beating the game probably more than a hundred times collectively, why is it that this section is so much harder than any of the others?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * What they remember about this influential moment in the game… and if they managed to save HER
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The strangeness of this point in the game! Why is the iconic fireside chat optional, and why is it so easy to miss this sidequest entirely? Whose sidequest is it, anyway?!
                                                                                                                                                                                                Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by [Nick Terwoord](https://nt3rp.io). Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Episode Cast
                                                                                                                                                                                                Alphabetically, by actor:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Manda Whitney in the role of Azala and Fiona
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick G in the role of his fictional self, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick T in the role of his fictional self, Robo, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Patrick "TrickyLove" Moylan in the role of Nizbel III
                                                                                                                                                                                                * SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Musical Credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [00:00] It doesn’t make any sense! - [Inception](https://www.jamendo.com/track/1208449/inception) by [The ARTISANS Beats](https://www.jamendo.com/artist/464776/the-artisans-beats) used under [Jamendo’s standard license](https://help-licensing.jamendo.com/hc/en-us/articles/211293289-What-can-I-do-with-a-Standard-License-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [01:39] A long time ago... [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "The Dark Before the Dawn"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01314) by [Will Buck](https://ocremix.org/artist/4601/will-buck) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [02:56] We’re getting close! [Chrono Symphonic: Frog’s Intervention](https://ocremix.org/album/7/chrono-trigger-chrono-symphonic) by [ellywu2](https://ocremix.org/artist/4776/ellywu2) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [04:32] These dust storms have gotten a lot worse... [ReMix: Secret of Mana "Cry from the Forest"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00444) by [Kassi](https://ocremix.org/artist/4425/kassi), [Mustin](https://ocremix.org/artist/4304/mustin) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [05:40] The last time we visited Zeal... [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Tears of Contention"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01446) by [Bladiator](https://ocremix.org/artist/4640/bladiator), [The Orichalcon](https://ocremix.org/artist/4619/the-orichalcon) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [07:34] Wait, Fiona’s right, isn’t she? [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Sunrise"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02777) by [Ivan Hakštok](https://ocremix.org/artist/13045/ivan-hakstok) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [27:35] Look at all the foliage! [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Gale of Ages"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01635) by [BogusRed](https://ocremix.org/artist/4620/bogusred) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [29:13] Is that Nizbel?! [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Coming Darkness"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03255) by [Chris Bess](https://ocremix.org/artist/14595/chris-bess), [FFmusic Dj](https://ocremix.org/artist/4324/ffmusic-dj), [Geoffrey Taucer](https://ocremix.org/artist/4694/geoffrey-taucer) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [31:37] You’ve been acting weirder than normal... [ReMix: Chrono Cross "Who Stole My Stars"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01641) by [Diggi Dis](https://ocremix.org/artist/4595/diggi-dis) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [33:51] [Race Against Time Promo - ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Punk Hairdo Kid"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03338) by [HyperDuck SoundWorks](https://ocremix.org/artist/11143/hyperduck-soundworks) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Special Announcement: The Race Against Time
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Race Against Time is a twenty-four hour marathon to do two things: raise money for charity, and beat all the endings of the greatest game ever made: Chrono Trigger.
                                                                                                                                                                                                On August 14 and 15, 2021, we’re raising money for [Trans Lifeline](https://translifeline.org/)—a grassroots hotline and microgrants 501(c)(3) non-profit organization offering direct emotional and financial support to trans people in crisis. Join the Nickscast family and friends as we embark on a magical journey to save the world of Chrono Trigger and our own _all_ while giving away fabulous prizes.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Special Announcement: Livestream for the Cure
                                                                                                                                                                                                > “My name is Nicholas Haskins, and I care deeply about fighting for a world and a future without cancer. Over fifteen years ago I lost a very good friend in his early twenties to a rare form of cancer, and since then I have wanted to do anything I can to raise money and fight against this terrible disease. Since then I've lost other loved ones to cancer, something I am sure anyone reading this can relate to. Cancer affects us all--no matter our race, gender, age, orientation, or what have you. The event began during my time on the Epic Film Guys, a weekly film podcast, as it gave me a platform on which I felt that I could host an event and give something back.”
                                                                                                                                                                                                [The 5th Annual Livestream for the Cure](http://livestreamforthecure.com/) takes place May 19th - 23rd, 2021 over 50 hours. For more information about the event and for information about partners taking part in it, please follow it on [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/livestreamforthecure), [Twitter](https://www.twitter.com/livestream4cure), and [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/livestreamforthecure).
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Additional Notes
                                                                                                                                                                                                **Why is the Sunken Desert so hard?**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Not obvious how to start
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Gaspar says: “In the Middle Ages, a woman's sheer determination brings a forest back to life…”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Either before the Ocean Palace incident, or after, talk to the Zeal plant woman and tell her to plant the plant
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In 600 AD, go into the (now, revealed) Sunken Desert—this is not obvious
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Fiona’s Villa has been available before this... but the hole in the desert was not
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Note: Some detail was left out in the North American version about Fiona being related to the Zeal plant woman… which may obscure the connection further
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Which is unfortunate because supposedly the seed from Zeal is the same as Fiona’s seed, is the same as the seed in 2300 AD! Or a descendant at least
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Also, the seed has concept art!?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Enemies are so hard!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Hexapod / Vilepillar has an attack that reduces you to 1 hp; resists fire and lightning
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Mohavor / Sandrago can inflict Lock as a counter; also resists fire and lightning
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Boss: Retinite / Melphyx just the WORST
                                                                                                                                                                                                * WHO MADE THIS MONSTER?! More on this next episode (possibly)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In our opinion: toughest boss in the game? Yes.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * This is a combination boss: three pieces, attrition / spike damage, and a triggered vulnerability! Retinite is a sort of spot-check to determine if you’re ready to face the challenges of the rest of the game!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Two of Retinite’s attacks are shadow, one is fire: Get your colour-coded plates on (or Ruby Armor / Taban vest)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * IMMUNE to all magic damage
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If the core is last alive, it will run away, robbing you of XP, TP, and Gold. Also, core damages self to heal a part for 200 HP
                                                                                                                                                                                                * ...But water will lower its physical defense. NEED someone to cast water techs
                                                                                                                                                                                                * BUT when you attack, attack powers goes up!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * BUT once the core is dead, physical defense ratchets up with each attack! HAVE to keep casting water.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Strategy: Have one person heal / water, then take out the top half (which deals more damage). Take out core first, probably.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Just an absolutely NIGHTMARE, honestly.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * One shot dungeon: If you miss any of the items, you can’t come back
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Some pretty sweet loot, especially if you do this earlier in the game.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * From the cave: Lapis, 2x Full Ether, Aeon Suit, Elixir, Full Tonic, 5000 G, HyperEther, Aeon Helm, Memory Cap, MuscleRing
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In the shrine (after): The status hats (Vigil Hat, Time Hat, Sight Cap, Memory Cap) + GreenDream
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The green dream! Worth calling out (since it’s the episode title)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * After all this, you get the Green Dream, an accessory that is a sort of auto-revive (once) for party members
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Brings character back at 5 * MAGIC HP
                                                                                                                                                                                                * I think this is also used as part of the glitch to use items against enemies and by extension, underflow and kill enemies with elixirs
                                                                                                                                                                                                **What do you remember about this sidequest?**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Did you use a walkthrough? Did you see the scene?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Did you save Lara? … because we failed to do so for sure
                                                                                                                                                                                                * How is it that such an important moment in the game is hidden so much?
                                                                                                                                                                                                **Why do you think they did this sidequest?**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * It’s strange: Most side quests wrap-up character development
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Marle → Rainbow Shell → Father
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Robo → Mother Brain → Atropos (love?)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Frog → Cyrus → Grief
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Magus → Ozzie’s Fort → True Allegiances
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Fiona is the lynchpin of it, even though it seems to be about Lucca?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Fiona is important enough to have concept art (she looks like a nun without the hat)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Reverse Design makes some good points about this quest game mechanically
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Divides the “Tragedy of the Entity” (i.e. linear gameplay where, despite whatever you do, you’ve failed to change anything) and the “Comedy of the Sages” (i.e. thanks to the vision of the future from Gaspar and Belthasar’s time machine, you can actually change time and do things non-linearly)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Can be encountered way before other sidequests; like, even before the fall of Zeal!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Gateway to other sidequests
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The fireplace scene is … pretty out of place, seemingly
                                                                                                                                                                                                * It takes places in an area you never visit again, and can’t access
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The first, and only occurrence of a mysterious red gate
                                                                                                                                                                                                * One of two places where ‘the entity’ is mentioned. Where’s the other? In one of the endings!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * It looks like the part with Lara / Lucca was always planned, even with the pre-release
                                                                                                                                                                                                * This is also weird because there’s no dialogue in the game that even really talks about Lara; even the pre-release only sorts of hints at her disability and the guilt Taban may have:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * From the pre-release, 990 AD was to be reached from the end of time
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Old Man: That gate over there shouldn't be entered…… Especially by kids like you……
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Lucca: Where in the world does this gate go?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Old Man: I told you. You shouldn't enter…… The best option isn't always limited to changing the past. Rather than regretting the past, you should hold your current self dear.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * ...And in the pre-release, there was no text option to save Lucca’s mother. Only this:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Lucca: Th, this is… 10 years ago…… back when I didn't know anything about mechanics……
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Lara: Somebody stop it--!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Taban: Lucca!! Put in the passcode 366 and pull the lever!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Note that you sure as heck can’t enter 366 on a controller
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Robo: Oh, by the way, here’s this thing I made out of Amber.
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## What is the Zeal Archives?
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Zeal Archives is a monthly podcast exploring the A-Z of the world of Chrono Trigger one bit at a time—two parts audio drama, one part discussion podcast, one hundred percent love letter to one of the best JRPGs of all time!
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Zeal Archives is published at [zealarchives.com](https://zealarchives.com) and [thenickscast.com](https://thenickscast.com) and can be found on most podcatching services. Please leave us comments, questions, criticism, or any other feedback at TheNickscast on [Facebook](https://facebook.com/thenickscast) or [Twitter](https://twitter.com/thenickscast).
                                                                                                                                                                                                36 min
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Secrets of Zeal: Behind Closed Doors [Book 3, Chapter 2]
                                                                                                                                                                                                Their dreams have finally come true--sort of--T and G are on their way to Zeal, kingdom of magic! Ready to shake off the dreck of the bleak future (and their experiences in the distant past), the party sets out to correct the latest time anomaly… until uninvited guests arrive, anyway. So much for a little rest and relaxation!
                                                                                                                                                                                                In our world, T and G have similar dreams coming true as we finally have the chance to talk about the coolest place in all of video game history (probably): Zeal… but only just a taste! This time, we take a look at just the secrets of Zeal, including:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The things you might have missed: with only a short bit of time spent in Zeal, you may have missed many fabulous treasures and bits of lore (maybe even a side-quest) but we’ve got you covered!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Secrets of… Chrono Trigger! Specifically, what elements were cut out of Zeal that could have been, and how the gameplay and narrative of this section of the game play out in the rest of the game!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The ultimate question (which we will probably bring up again): What makes Zeal so great?! Magic? Floating cities? Maybe we’ll never know! We also talk a bit about how it’s at least a little bit problematic for a lot of reasons.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by [Nick Terwoord](https://nt3rp.io). Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Episode Cast
                                                                                                                                                                                                Alphabetically, by actor:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Manda Whitney in the role of Azala
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick G in the role of his fictional self, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick T in the role of his fictional self, Robo, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick Z in the role of Gaspar, and Zeal Scientist B
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Patrick "TrickyLove" Moylan in the role of Zeal Scientist A
                                                                                                                                                                                                * SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Musical Credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [00:00] We’re going to Zeal - [Inception](https://www.jamendo.com/track/1208449/inception) by [The ARTISANS Beats](https://www.jamendo.com/artist/464776/the-artisans-beats) used under [Jamendo’s standard license](https://help-licensing.jamendo.com/hc/en-us/articles/211293289-What-can-I-do-with-a-Standard-License-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [01:09] Kajar - City of Magic: [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Zeal Breeze"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03641) by [RebeccaETripp](https://ocremix.org/artist/14375/rebeccaetripp) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [06:08] Secrets of Zeal - Behind Closed Doors - [Inception](https://www.jamendo.com/track/1208449/inception) by [The ARTISANS Beats](https://www.jamendo.com/artist/464776/the-artisans-beats) used under [Jamendo’s standard license](https://help-licensing.jamendo.com/hc/en-us/articles/211293289-What-can-I-do-with-a-Standard-License-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [33:31] What is going on? [ReMix: Chrono Cross "To Times Once Forgotten"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01386) by [Vampire Hunter Dan](https://ocremix.org/artist/4574/vampire-hunter-dan) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [35:18] I hesitate to say… Haunted? [ReMix: Xenogears "Xenosphere"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01319) by [Oceanfire](https://ocremix.org/artist/4507/oceanfire) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [36:35] Outro: [Inception](https://www.jamendo.com/track/1208449/inception) by [The ARTISANS Beats](https://www.jamendo.com/artist/464776/the-artisans-beats) used under [Jamendo’s standard license](https://help-licensing.jamendo.com/hc/en-us/articles/211293289-What-can-I-do-with-a-Standard-License-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Special Announcement: The Race Against Time VII
                                                                                                                                                                                                The Race Against Time is a twenty-four hour marathon to do two things: raise money for charity, and beat all the endings of the greatest game ever made: Chrono Trigger.
                                                                                                                                                                                                On August 14 and 15, 2021, we’re raising money for [Trans Lifeline](https://translifeline.org/)—a grassroots hotline and microgrants 501(c)(3) non-profit organization offering direct emotional and financial support to trans people in crisis. Join the Nickscast family and friends as we embark on a magical journey to save the world of Chrono Trigger and our own _all_ while giving away fabulous prizes.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Special Announcement: Livestream for the Cure
                                                                                                                                                                                                > “My name is Nicholas Haskins, and I care deeply about fighting for a world and a future without cancer. Over fifteen years ago I lost a very good friend in his early twenties to a rare form of cancer, and since then I have wanted to do anything I can to raise money and fight against this terrible disease. Since then I've lost other loved ones to cancer, something I am sure anyone reading this can relate to. Cancer affects us all--no matter our race, gender, age, orientation, or what have you. The event began during my time on the Epic Film Guys, a weekly film podcast, as it gave me a platform on which I felt that I could host an event and give something back.”
                                                                                                                                                                                                [The 5th Annual Livestream for the Cure](http://livestreamforthecure.com/) takes place May 19th - 23rd, 2021 over 50 hours. For more information about the event and for information about partners taking part in it, please follow it on [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/livestreamforthecure), [Twitter](https://www.twitter.com/livestream4cure), and [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/livestreamforthecure).
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Additional Notes
                                                                                                                                                                                                **Secrets of Zeal**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Lots of secrets in 12 000 B.C. that are easy to miss...
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If you talk to everyone, you will no doubt encounter a Nu who says “Water summons wind… ...wind makes fire dance”
                                                                                                                                                                                                * ...And if you’re looking around in Enhasa and Kajar, you might even encounter a bunch of books that reveal those elements when opened!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In Enhasa, if you follow the Nu’s advice, you’ll encounter a room with six Nus to battle! Beat them all to win a Magic Tab and a Speed Tab
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nus are a good source of XP and TP, and aren’t super hard considering they randomly do one of two attacks: 1 HP damage, or all your HP minus 1 (but this attack won’t hurt you if you’re at 1 HP)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * ...Falcon hit (or any powerful multi attack)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In Kajar, reveals a room with a neat passage about Nus, but also a Poyozo doll which has a Black Rock inside…
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Why can you not equip the Black Rock on everyone?
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Tyranno Lair: History Repeating [Book 3, Chapter 1]
                                                                                                                                                                                                It’s out of the frying pan and into the fire as our heroes, T, G, Lucca, and Robo frantically flee from an unexpected pack of… dinosaurs?! Fortunately, they’re able to make it back to the End of Time to regroup, but so many mysteries remain about what damage the experiment has caused for the world (the multiverse) of Chrono Trigger. It looks like it’s time for a new adventure to begin!
                                                                                                                                                                                                In our world, T and G revisit Chrono Trigger’s 65,000,00 BC period, specifically, Tyranno Lair, to get a better understanding of what makes this section of the game so great, but also a bit of a mixed bag:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The impenetrable fortress that it is: How the game sets the stage for this epic locale, and how incredibly impractical it is
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The mini-boss rush of Nizbel II, Azala and Black Tyranno: Epic battles, or road bumps on the way to Zeal?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * The reptiles! What the heck are they, anyway?
                                                                                                                                                                                                Editing, scripting, and podcast visual design by [Nick Terwoord](https://nt3rp.io). Special thanks to Square Enix for making that game that we love, Chrono Trigger ...and for not suing us.
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Episode Cast
                                                                                                                                                                                                Alphabetically, by actor:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick G in the role of his fictional self, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nick T in the role of his fictional self, Robo, and discussion host
                                                                                                                                                                                                * SMZeldaRules in the role of Lucca Ashtear
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Musical Credits
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [00:00] Chase scene - [Chrono Symphonic: Frog’s Intervention](https://ocremix.org/album/7/chrono-trigger-chrono-symphonic) by [ellywu2](https://ocremix.org/artist/4776/ellywu2) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [01:36] Lucca Explains it all - [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Electric Clouds"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01092) by [posu yan](https://ocremix.org/artist/4290/posu-yan) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [03:53] A moment of expository tension - [Chonopolis: Operation Slash and Dash](https://ocremix.org/album/91/chronopolis-music-inspired-by-chrono-cross) by [prophetik music](https://ocremix.org/artist/4695/prophetik-music), [Tuberz McGee](https://ocremix.org/artist/13677/tuberz-mcgee) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [05:30, 33:25] Primal drums - [Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shell Shocked: Rock You Like a Dinosaur [Prehistoric Turtlesaurus]](https://ocremix.org/album/55/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shell-shocked) by Chernabogue (feat. [Furilas](https://ocremix.org/artist/14980/furilas), [Tuberz McGee](https://ocremix.org/artist/13677/tuberz-mcgee), [Viking Guitar](https://ocremix.org/artist/13432/viking-guitar)) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [36:32] Chill at the End of Time - [ReMix: Chrono Trigger "Driftwood"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03412) by [Fratto](https://ocremix.org/artist/14336/fratto), [Wiesty](https://ocremix.org/artist/8640/wiesty), [The OC Jazz Collective](https://ocremix.org/artist/14337/the-oc-jazz-collective) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * [38:07] “We’re going to Zeal!” - [ReMix: Chrono Cross "A Timely Victory"](https://ocremix.org/remix/OCR03884) by [Lemonectric](https://ocremix.org/artist/8998/lemonectric) from [http://ocremix.org](http://ocremix.org) used under [ocremix.org content policy](http://ocremix.org/info/Content_Policy#If_you.27re_using_our_content_elsewhere_.28.22Terms_of_Use.22.29%E2%80%A6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## Additional Notes
                                                                                                                                                                                                **The impenetrable fortress of Tyranno Lair**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * We tend to downplay dinosaur times, but let’s be real about this section of the game
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Huge amount of build-up to this section:
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Laruba have their village burnt
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Ayla, as chief, springs into action
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Need to summon THE DACTYL; requires a short trip to Dactyl Nest; epic sunset with just the tiniest hint of foreshadowing baked in
                                                                                                                                                                                                * RIDING ON DINOSAURS
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In PS1 and later versions, EPIC cutscene of flying off to Tyranno Lair
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Even in game, go from lush forest, to desert, to mountain, to CASTLE IN LAVA FIELDS
                                                                                                                                                                                                * This place is hella inaccessible! No stairs, no ramps, no ladders… how the fuck would humans get up here without Dactyl?!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Unfortunately, no panning up to reveal the enormous castle, as we do with Magus’ Castle
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Tyranno Lair really sets the mood
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Akira Toriyama-esque; much easier to see in the official art
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Dinosaurs, epic buildings on a plateau, weird ceramic-like architecture
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Actually really cool looking! Music and atmosphere build the mood
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Dinosaur bones (morbid?) used in architecture
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Also, technologically advanced: switches + bizarre, unexplained maze puzzle
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Good luck getting that Ceratopper
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Was supposed to contain Mitsuda’s “The Unknown Battle” (pre-cursor to Boss Battle 2), but replaced with Uematsu’s “Tyran Castle” (moody, epic)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Plus, even though sprites don’t give a good indication, castle feels like it looks in the art: lots of branching paths, pitfalls, and even some vistas. Not always obvious how to get up to the next area with switch puzzles + ambushes
                                                                                                                                                                                                * It feels like it’s building up to something big without being too long
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Did you know that you can sit in Azala’s throne, and if you do, your character will laugh?? Neat!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Further accentuated with Nizbel II (and your ability to breeze past him… sort of) followed by even more rooms, and then Azala’s throne room...
                                                                                                                                                                                                **Big Bad Bosses: Nizbel II, Azala, and Black Tyranno**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Thankfully, no boss gauntlet like at the end of the game, but there are technically two (three?) bosses back to back: Nizbel II, Azala and Black Tyranno
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Nizbel II
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Pretty similar to the first time...
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Lightning lowers defense; keep Crono on this
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Defense rises when hit with regular attacks
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Alternate between damage and healing dual techs with Ayla
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Damage will ratchet up until Nizbel releases the electricity: about 200 damage
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If you can, never hit with a regular attack; always use something like Volt Bite or Spire (which are lightning)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * ...Or, you can walk on the wild side; equip Ayla with a rage band (50% counterattack; found in the Sewers) or Berserker Ring (physical attack times 1.5, physical damage reduced by ⅓; found in either Mystic Mountains or Lab 16)... and have someone heal
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Has 6500 HP, so if all else fails, just grind it out then use a shelter at nearby save point
                                                                                                                                                                                                * You can charm a Third Eye (doubles evasion stat)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * _Fun fact:_ Using something called the Fade Out glitch, you can avoid the Nizbel II fight entirely! You can do this at some other points as well.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * At a high level, takes a small amount of time (8 frames) for screen to fade out when you enter a doorway.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If you interrupt that by opening the menu, 8 frame timer resets
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If you keep doing that, you can move around a bit while fadeout continues
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If you trigger the south exit, then manage to go in and out of the menu correctly and travel to the top of the screen… the game will trigger the start of the fight with Nizbel II, finish the fade out (warping you to the outside), and when you go back, the game will think you fought Nizbel (since the fight flag was already triggered, whether or not you actually did it!)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Azala and Black Tyranno
                                                                                                                                                                                                * After a few more rooms, you face off against Azala and Black Tyranno
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Make sure you’ve invested in Ruby Vest from the Ioka Trading Hut (3 fangs, 3 feathers; cuts fire damage in half) or something better (if New Game+) since Black Tyranno will be droppin’ a lot of flames
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Black Tyranno is weak to physical damage, but don’t bother until Azala is dead (it’s protected)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Azala is weak against lightning; easy to take down, but will cause HP down (slowly saps HP) once defeated
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Tyranno will lower its defense once it once Azala dead and starts counting down
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If no fire protection… will deal ~300 damage.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Otherwise, just a matter of time; Tyranno has just over 10k HP!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Can charm power tab from tyranno, magic from Azala
                                                                                                                                                                                                * You can also try the BerserkAyla strategy again… honestly, her physical damage is so OP.
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Then… prepare for some PLOT!
                                                                                                                                                                                                **What is up with the Reptites?**
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Why didn’t they just win?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Developed _long_ before humans; subjugated many other species
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Cave Apes
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Volcanites (?)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * (Other dinosaur like creatures)
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Bigger heads (bigger brains?); more intelligent, and tougher than humans
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Built impressive structures including a giant advanced castle in a lava field!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Technologically advanced! Switches, puzzles, architecture, psionics?!
                                                                                                                                                                                                * THEY HAVE A GIANT T-REX
                                                                                                                                                                                                * What is it doing there, anyway? Is it the only one of its kind? Can it speak? Is it sentient like the other reptites??
                                                                                                                                                                                                * If you face Lavos before Black Tyranno, get Dinosaur Times ending, indicating that humans weren’t strong enough to defeat the reptites
                                                                                                                                                                                                * So why didn’t they win in the first place (before the events of Chrono Trigger)??
                                                                                                                                                                                                * What exactly are reptites?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * In Japanese they’re called Dino-people
                                                                                                                                                                                                * We see several other dinosaur-like creatures; is it like humans and other apes?
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Black Tyranno
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Dactyl
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Megasaur / Terasaur
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Avian Rex
                                                                                                                                                                                                * Uniformly vulnerable to lightning? Nope! Only Terasaur (shocked), Avian Rex (1.3x damage), Nizbel and Nizbel II… Purple Reptites actually resist lightning
                                                                                                                                                                                                ## What is the Zeal Archives?
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Have you ever wondered how long King Guardia has reigned for? Or wanted to know more about Lucca's (and her family's) crazy inventions? The Zeal Archives explores the world of Chrono Trigger one bit at a time covering the characters, items, mechanics, locales and lore with a dose of your hosts', T and G, personal experiences with the game mixed in.