Them Before Us With Katy Faust

Katy and Jenn talk about the Trump administrations rollback of Biden-era transgender policies, why the red states are outpacing blue when it comes to marriage and kids, the dating crisis and what to do about it and then Sam joins Jenn to talk about the concept of "mental load" that has some wives complaining on social media.

Josh starts off the episode with a Holy Week devotional and a very interesting observation about Jesus' last words. Then Katy and Josh talk about Daily Wire's Isabel Brown being attacked by the ladies of The View for promoting marriage and family, and the SCOTUS decision allowing Christian counselors the freedom to offer talk therapy to those who struggle with gender or sexual identity issues. Find more resources from TBU at thembeforeus.substack.com.

Katy and Josh discuss the death of Paul Ehrlich, author of The Population Bomb, who proposed many wrong ideas about having kids and continuing the next generation, a new GOP candidate who wants to tax "Only Fans" for degeneracy, and the reality of frozen embryos and their likelihood of survival.

TBU has launched its response to the Human Rights Campaign's annual "Corporate Equality Index," and Katy and Josh talk about how the biggest businesses in the country are funding harm to children. Then they talk about the latest surrogacy scandal shared on Reddit and why the culture is now trying to make poly-relationships more palatable.

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Katy and Josh return to examine the Left’s newest “Christian” darling and his strange claims about the faith, asking whether this rebranding will actually persuade believers. They also tackle the latest IVF mix-up, another reminder that children’s identities are often treated as disposable in the fertility industry. Jenn and Sam close the episode by responding to backlash against defending marriage as one man and one woman, and the criticism of amplifying adults raised by LGBT parents who are speaking honestly about the harms.

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Katy and Josh dig into the Supreme Court ruling that says California schools cannot keep secrets from parents about their child’s LGBT identity or so-called transition. Josh also shares how he talked with his daughter about abortion and we ask whether government-run health care delivers what it promises. Jenn and Sam discuss a nurse who witnessed a surrogate birth where the baby was immediately handed to two men, raising a question our culture refuses to face: why is a practice considered unethical with animals permitted with human children? Follow us on thembeforeus.substack.com for more resources to talk to your family and friends about the importance of protecting children's rights.

Katy and Josh consider Trump's mention of IVF in his State of the Union speech this week, consider the data on "hard parenting" leading to adults wanting to have fewer kids, and the reality that LGBT-identified individuals value biology so much they'll pay thousands for it, and simultaneously deny biological connections to their children. Then Jenn has a conversation with a Christian conservative satire influencer on why Christians cannot abandon the arts to the left.

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Katy and Josh talk about how the advent of same-sex marriage helped put the West in the fertility crisis it finds itself in. Since marriage and having children are the keys to continuing civilization, Katy is presenting a 3-part dating series you won't want to miss. Then Jenn and Sam take on how opponents fight about the definition of marriage in our social media comments and how we can respond.

This week, Katy and Josh take on some of the loudest cultural conversations shaping modern family life — from influencers promoting divorce as a pathway to “personal happiness,” to the difficult realities surrounding abuse and what the data reveals about the safest family structure for children. Moving beyond slogans and sentimentality, they ask hard questions about what love truly requires, what children genuinely need, and whether adult desires should ever redefine a child’s right to stability. Jenn and Sam join the conversation to thoughtfully explore how motherhood is discussed in a culture that often treats it as optional, and whether the phrase “love makes a family” withstands scrutiny when a child’s long-term wellbeing is at stake. It’s a candid, clear-eyed discussion rooted in one conviction: children deserve more than cultural shortcuts.

Katy and Jenn discuss the latest in celebrity political commentary, on illegal immigration and gay marriage, showing that they don't practice what they preach to others. They discuss the Greater Than launch to retake marriage on behalf of kids and how Katy's X account was hacked by bitcoin scammers. (Listen to the end of the episode for the update on that!) Follow TBU's work at thembeforeus.substack.com and join Greater Than at greaterthancampaign.com.