Joel and Steve get to talk with Hollie Urbauer, who just happens to be married to Steve!  Hollie is an accomplished professional who recently started her own business:

https://sanctuarypsychotherapyandwellness.com/

Hollie talks about opening a business at the start of a global pandemic, EMDR therapy, and most importantly - discovering the joys of seeing the world on two wheels! 

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