In a day when so-called leaders reign with iron-fisted, command and control, top-down approaches – Utah’s former governor says the fastest way to the top is bottom. Gary R. Herbert, who served 12 years as Utah’s 17th Governor shares vital lessons and critical strategies from his season of service. Lessons every leader should learn on this episode of “Therefore, what?” 

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America is more technologically connected than at any point in history. Yet, social capital seems to be in decline, political divisions run deep, communities are crumbling, and the country appears to be more narcissistic and fragmented than ever before. Robert Putnam, the Malkin Research Professor of Public Policy at Harvard University and author of Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community, and Shaylyn Romney Garrett, writer and founding contributor to Weave: The Social Fabric Project are co-authors of The Upswing: How America Came Together a Century Ago and How We Can Do It Again. Today with Boyd  they discuss if the answer to what ails society is found in the “We” of “We the people,” on this episode of "Therefore, What?”

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When discussing foreign relations, national security, and America's role in the world, conversations tend to drift towards words like might strength, weapons, sanctions, and capability. What if that clearly narcissistic approach was actually making international matters worse? And what if the better approach was centered in empathy? Would anyone believe it? or listen to it? Former National Security Adviser HR McMaster makes the case for strategic empathy on this episode of "Therefore, What?"

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Many organizations have struggled in the midst of the pandemic. Think tanks and policy shops are the places where hallway conversations, events, and gatherings, are not just nice; they're absolutely necessary. Robert Doar, president of American Enterprise Institute (AEI) discusses how AEI is thriving, succeeding, and expanding its reach and influence even amid a pandemic. Beyond organizational success, Robert discusses the principles that lead to the most American of dreams; opportunity and upward mobility. These topics and more on this episode of "Therefore, What?"

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Politicians and pundits love to talk about criminal justice reform and important progress has and continues to be made to root out racism and bias in law enforcement and sentencing. But according to a group of former long time felons and drug addicts who have over 400 arrests between them and over 150 years of combined incarceration, true criminal justice reform begins with accountability. True accountability they say is the essence of true compassion. Founder of The Other Side Academy, bestselling author and behavioral influence strategist Joseph Granny joins us on this special edition of "Therefore, what?"

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In a day of cutthroat competition, scarcity mentality, and zero-sum thinking, one advertising agency is doing it differently. Harmon Brothers chief creative officer Daniel Harmon shares a behind-the-scenes look at the principles that drive their unprecedented success and how they shared those principles in an extraordinary #PoopToGold contest. The advertising agencies' mindest and marketing tips are benefiting fellow businesses like the winner of the contest, GoTreads. Check it out on this episode of "Therefore, what?"

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In a world that is starving for content that is fitting for children in our homes, VidAngel has played a critical role, but not always a successful role through failures through opposition and through connection. They're creating something that is sweeping the globe, ironically a series focused on the life of Jesus Christ called "The Chosen," with a crowdsource funding mechanism and a pay-it-forward model. They are literally changing entertainment today. VidAngel CEO Neil Harmon joins us on this edition of "Therefore, What?"

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McKay Coppins, staff writer for The Atlantic, writes a front-page deep-dive feature on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He posits that for more than 200 years the church has tried to assimilate into America only to find the country in an identity crisis. Coppins takes a look at what the third century will look like for the faith. McKay joins us for a special edition of "Therefore What?" 

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Mental health struggles naturally spill into the workplace, especially in a pandemic, they affect job performance, engagement, communication abilities, and physical capabilities. All of these things impact businesses, individuals, families, and communities. One business is determined to take the “Mental Illness” conversation and turn it into “Mental Fitness.” Room Here is a nonprofit organization focused on mental fitness and healthier minds at work. Cofounders Trent Mano and Rachel Merrill, join us to tackle that crucial conversation of mental wellness at work on this episode of “Therefore, What?”

“Therefore, What?” Is a weekly podcast that breaks down the news, while breaking down barriers, challenges you and the status quo, explores timeless topics and timeless principles and leaves you confident to face what's next. Host and Deseret News opinion editor Boyd Matheson shares his thoughtful perspective on issues at the heart of American political civic life. 

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As many institutions of higher education are struggling with the impact of the pandemic and disruption to centuries-old education models, one institution, BYU Pathway Worldwide, is growing at an extraordinary pace, reaching over 50,000 students in 150 countries. Clark Gilbert, president of BYU Pathway Worldwide, joins us to discuss how they are unlocking and unleashing human potential around the world on this episode of "Therefore, What?"

“Therefore, What?” Is a weekly podcast that breaks down the news, while breaking down barriers, challenges you and the status quo, explores timeless topics and timeless principles and leaves you confident to face what's next. Host and Deseret News opinion editor Boyd Matheson shares his thoughtful perspective on issues at the heart of American political civic life. 

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