Think Like a Vegan

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Max Haiven discusses whether palm oil is a particularly more destructive product than any other. Max's book, Palm Oil: Grease of Empire, gets into a bit of the history, political, economic and natural impact of the palm oil industry, which had its start during European colonisation of West Africa in the 19th century. Max then zooms out to look at the wider impact and how we might want to consider what we do about palm oil production. 

Max is an author, a professor at Lakehead University in Canada and the Canada Research Chair in Radical Imagination. He also co-hosts a call-in podcast called What Do We Want, and directs the ReImagining Value Action Lab, a workshop for the radical imagination, social justice and decolonization. He's also the first and, so far, only non-vegan guest on this podcast 

Website/Socials 

Max Haiven⁠

https://maxhaiven.com/⁠ https://reimaginevalue.ca/ @maxhaiven on X https://maxhaiven.substack.com/ ⁠https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745345826/palm-oil/⁠ 

Emi Leese

⁠https://emilialeese.substack.com⁠ ⁠http://thinklikeavegan.com⁠

⁠http://emilialeese.com ⁠ 

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Max Haiven 

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; ⁠https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com⁠ 

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell ⁠https://www.messyvegancook.com⁠ Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "Hit" by Flowers Must Die Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network ⁠https://iroarpod.com⁠

In this series, the big theme has been systems with special attention to economics and capitalism. Selling as many different products is one of the principal manifestations of capitalism. And in the context of vegan products - What’s it mean to have more vegan products available to buy? Do more vegan products mean fewer animals are being exploited for their bodies and secretions? Is veganism about products? Is veganism winning? I share my thoughts about this and more in the last episode for this season.

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

https://www.messyvegancook.com

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Sara van Goozen and Josh Milburn are the first to include considering harm to animals in just war theory. Broadly speaking, just war theory looks at whether a war is justified and if so, how that war should be conducted. They authored "Counting Animals in War: First Steps towards an Inclusive Just-War Theory” published in the journal Social Theory and Practice.Sara is a lecturer at the University of York. Her research focuses on topics in contemporary just war theory and global ethics. She’s written about just risk distribution in war, the moral status of animals in war and the distribution of scarce medical resources. Sara is also interested in various other areas in contemporary political theory, such as the literature on political obligation and sovereignty.

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

https://www.messyvegancook.com

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

For his Master Thesis, Tim Reysoo developed the concept of human privilege by extending the notion of social privilege to make sense of the enormous power differential between humans and animals in society. He develops the concept and social category of “species privilege” and “human innocence”.

https://www.messyvegancook.com

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Doctor Josh Milburn's book, Just Fodder: The ethics of feeding animals (McGill-Queen's University Press), explores a variety of questions from “Who are we obliged to feed? Who are we permitted to feed? What are we allowed to feed animals? To What is the role of the state in feeding animals? And How might obligations concerning the feeding of animals differ from obligations concerning the feeding of humans and why?

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

https://www.messyvegancook.com

MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Joshua Katcher and Tracey Katof are researching the fashion industry as a compelling case-study for the macroeconomic phenomenon of circumfauna, a term Joshua coined. They analyse the social, historical, and environmental influences on the large-scale shift towards intentionally reframing supply chains without animals.

https://thediscerningbrute.com

Brave Gentleman https://www.bravegentleman.com;

@brave_gentleman, Instagram

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell

https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Interlude: "Yushima" by Matthew Gerstenberger;

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Infighting. It’s something people in the veganverse complain about. So what do we mean by infighting? Is it something unique to the vegan and animal rights space? Should we be concerned about it? Does it benefit one group over another? How should we engage with it if at all? And what might be some of its consequences, if any?

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Music

Interlude: "Clouds on the Orongorongos" by Matthew Gerstenberger;

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Troy Vettese and Drew Pendergrass are the authors of Half Earth Socialism:A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics (Verso). We talk about their book, the simulation game that goes with their book and why vegans should be socialists and socialists should be vegans.

@pendergrassdrew on X

Host: Emilia A. Leese

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell

https://www.messyvegancook.com

MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Marx, Veganism and Political Solidarity Across Species

Guest: Leigh Claire La Berge

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions;

https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell

https://www.messyvegancook.com

Interlude: "Shinka" by Matthew Gerstenberger;

Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Benny Malone, author of How to Argue with Vegans: An analysis of anti-vegan arguments, talks to us about his top five favourite fallacies. Not the ones we might be familiar with, but those requiring a bit more work and thought. In the second half of the program, I'll share my top three strategies when choosing to engage with others on the topic of veganism.  

Credits Host: Emilia A. Leese 

Guest: Benny Malone; on Twitter @bennymaloneUK 

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions 

Music Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business  

Intermission: "Cantina Rag" by Jackson F Smith 

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business