”What I’m concerned with here is the role of Germany in Ukrainian defence, and that’s really European defence,” says Benni at the top of this episode. ”Why the h*** aren’t the Germans doing more? Why isn’t Germany really leading Europe on this existential issue? What’s holding us back here?”
In the 25th episode of This Time Tomorrow, Benni and Omri talk to Nico Lange—former chief of staff at the German Ministry of Defense (2019–2022), and Senior Fellow at both the Center for European Policy Analysis and the Munich Security Conference—about the role of Germany in Europe’s efforts to defend Ukraine and the continent at large from Russian military aggression.
Since the end of WWII, Europe has been a peace project, and many Europeans will naturally feel queasy about increasing defence spending…
…but as we have said on this podcast before, the war against autocracy is coming for all of us, and we must act now if we want to preserve free and open democractic societies.
”The direct challenge to Europe by Putin’s war of aggression will only be solved if Germany finally comes around,” argues Nico Lange. ”So for me the question is: How long will it take and what will it take for Germany to do what is necessary to restore peace in Europe and to preserve peace in the long-term? […] There is a missing element in this, and that is Germany making a strategic decision, ’What is it that we want to achieve by helping Ukraine?’”
Will Germany step up its efforts to lead Europe towards peace?
*Apologies for the poor sound quality at the very end of the episode. Technical issues led to an abrupt interruption in the conversation, after which a proper connection was difficult to restore.
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