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In this episode of This Week in Carbon, host Rene Velasquez (filling in for Edward over Thanksgiving) is joined by Naomi Chloe Swickard – a 20-year veteran of the carbon and conservation space, former leader of Verra’s REDD+ program, architect of the world’s first jurisdictional REDD+ framework, and key contributor to the new consolidated VM0048 methodology. Naomi delivers a candid, insider masterclass on where forests and carbon markets actually stand at the end of 2025, why progress is happening outside COP, and what it will really take to scale high-integrity nature-based solutions.We discuss:• Naomi’s unexpected entry into the market (a chance meeting at a bar in Thailand) and two decades shaping REDD+• COP Berlin (“the Forest COP”) debrief: symbolic wins, missed opportunities, and why the real action is now beyond the UNFCCC• The capitalism paradox: growth vs. climate, tragedy of the commons, and the lack of enforcement teeth• REDD+ evolution: from VM0007 to VM0048, jurisdictional nesting, risk-map allocation, and the first issuances finally landing• Market reality check: delayed supply, ICVCM approval, green-hushing, and quiet rebuilding of demand• Project vs. jurisdictional REDD: why both are essential and must co-exist indefinitely• The permanence debate, the integrity-vs-scale trap, and why “perfect” is preventing near-term climate impact• Standing-forest protection vs. the removals renaissance: where capital is flowing and where it’s still missing• Clarity gaps: SBTI’s new guidance, Article 6.2 momentum, debt-for-nature swaps, and emerging financing models• 2026–2030 outlook: jurisdictional acceleration, blue carbon & peatlands, contribution claims, and the turbulent road to a workable, scalable market
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, hosts Edward Smith and Rene Velasquez are joined by Siddhanth Jayaram, Sricharann Seshadri and Neelesh Sachdeva, co-founders of Equilibrium, together with a legendary surprise appearance from carbon market OG Nick D’Alleva (co-founder of APX/Vera). From late-night Skype auctions worth millions to building India’s most diverse high-integrity removal portfolio — this one’s packed with history and forward vision.We discuss: • Surprise drop-in from Nick D’Alleva: Wild stories from the early VCM days, near-miss million-dollar transfers, and why he’s calling the end of the 2022–2025 down-cycle • Nick’s market forecast: Next explosive up-cycle starts late 2026, peaks 2028–2030 — bigger than 2020–2022 — driven by lower rates, removal demand, and high-quality supply • Equilibrium’s origin story: Two ex-VC/finance guys betting everything on smallholder-led carbon removal in India • Going full-stack: How they layered capital markets thinking + carbon science + on-ground ops with 125 million smallholder farmers at the core • Portfolio deep-dive: Regenerative ag (VM42), agroforestry (VM47), mangroves (VM33), biochar (Puro + Isometric), and live enhanced rock weathering pilots • Why tech alone failed on integrity — and what actually works • Capital stack wars: Inverted pyramid vs. forest ecosystem metaphors, blended finance breakthroughs, and India’s first major USAID-backed CDR transaction • Registry evolution: For-profit registries (Isometric, Puro, Rainbow) forcing innovation and better developer experience • Buffer pools need a full rethink — insurance as buyer of first resort? • Voluntary → compliance bridging: Who bears liability when credits go compliance-eligible? • The massive Series A/seed funding gap in carbon — and how Equilibrium convinced top-tier VCs anyway • Advice to buyers still on the sidelines: “Shoot bullets now before you have to fire cannons later” • Why early corporate action today is the smartest risk-mitigation play for tomorrow’s compliance reality.
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, host Edward Smith is joined by Melissa Lindsay, Founder & CEO of Emstream and Emsurge, a veteran with over a decade broking LNG and building trading platforms. Melissa shares her journey from LNG’s infancy to pioneering wholesale infrastructure for carbon markets, offering a deep dive into the challenges and opportunities shaping liquidity and market maturity.We discuss: • Melissa’s career path: From Global head of LNG at Tullett Prebon to launching Emsurge and pivoting into carbon amid COVID • LNG-carbon parallels: Physical-to-financial evolution, index-linked pricing, and off-take structures • Market dynamics: Oversupply vs. demand, “art market” pricing, vintage decay, and charismatic credit trends • Infrastructure innovation: Hybrid platform with real-time bids/offers, broker facilitation, and agnostic settlement • Tech partnerships: Calyx/Sylvera ratings filters, automated KYC, and front-end marketplaces for Africa • Article 6 operationalization: Host-country LOAs, corresponding adjustments, and non-NDC project vacuums • CBAM catalysis: Upstream carbon taxes in Africa/Asia and protectionism’s rise • 2030 outlook: M&A consolidation, CORSIA/J-REDD dominance, futures indices, and AI-driven DMRV-to-marketplace
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, hosts Edward Smith and Rene Velasquez are joined by Chris Leeds, Head of Carbon Markets Development at Standard Chartered Bank and board member of the Integrity Council (ICVCM) — a 20-year veteran who helped launch the EU ETS and co-founded Climate Impact X.Chris delivers a masterclass on scaling carbon markets with integrity, finance, and policy. We discuss: • Chris’s journey: From trading CDM credits at Merrill Lynch to supporting Standard Chartered’s CEO on the Taskforce to Scale Voluntary Carbon Markets • ICVCM’s Core Carbon Principles (CCPs): The “two-tick” assessment driving a race to the top amid proliferating standards (Gold Standard, GCC, Puro, Isometric, and more) • Blurring voluntary & compliance lines: Singapore’s tax offset, EU ETS crediting mechanisms, and the shift to “project-based” (not voluntary) credits • Standardization as rocket fuel: Why fungible contracts, indices, and liquid secondary markets unlock institutional debt at 70% LTV• Bankability unlocked: Off-take agreements, portfolio aggregation, and turning carbon projects into infrastructure-grade assets (not VC bets) • Finance masterclass: Debt needs revenue certainty — fixed-price/floor offtakes, digitized MRV, and replacement cost clauses for risk management • Asia’s carbon boom: Singapore’s deliberate ecosystem, Indonesia’s presidential decree, Vietnam’s dual supply/demand play, and China’s 5GT ETS eyeing international credits • Global momentum: Brazil, Japan (GX League → ETS), Australia, and the Coalition to Grow Carbon Marketslaunching shared principles at COP • Cost-effective abatement: Why chasing $200/ton in Europe is illogical — methane, avoided deforestation, and clean cooking need priority • Scale & speed: Forward purchase agreements, private sector filling the $1.3T gap, and carbon as a proxy for biodiversity & nature finance• Market resilience: Surviving hype cycles, entering the slope of enlightenment, and gearing up for 2030 demand surge
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, hosts Edward Smith and Rene Velasquez are joined by Alfredo Nicastro, Global Head of Carbon Solutions at StoneX, a veteran with over 20 years in climate finance and carbon markets. Alfredo shares his journey from a civil and environmental engineer in Brazil to a leader in global carbon solutions, offering a deep dive into the challenges and opportunities shaping decarbonization and market evolution.
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In this episode of This Week in Carbon, we speak with Madhur Jain, Co-Founder & CEO, and Ikarus Janzen, Co-Founder & Chief Commercial Officer of Varaha—one of the top 3 global suppliers of high-quality CDR credits in 2025 (per CDR.FYI). They share how Varaha scaled to profitability in just 3.5 years across 4 CDR pathways, delivered 100,000+ tons of biochar, and landed landmark deals with Google and Louis Dreyfus. We explore India’s emergence as a CDR superpower, the insetting revolution for resilient supply chains, and why traction follows traction in smallholder agriculture.We discuss: Founder journeys from VC and agribusiness to building a 200-person CDR powerhouse CDR market segments: legacy avoidance vs. nature-based vs. durable removals (and Varaha’s unique 4-pathway edge) How deep ag expertise + digital MRV unlocked rapid scale amid 6-14% yield drops from climate chaos The Google biochar bombshell: 100K tons by 2030 from India’s 100M tons of waste biomass Louis Dreyfus’ first-of-its-kind insetting deal: 5-year wheat resilience + premiums for sustainable cotton (15¢/t-shirt) Buyer pressures: Shareholder ESG targets + consumer premiums fueling food/textile insetting Farmer realities: Droughts, geopolitical food crises, and turning mitigation funds into adaptation wins India’s 2030 vision: Vast land, cheap solar, and basalt riches positioning it as the world’s CDR hub
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, host Edward Smith and co-host Rene Velasquez are joined by Sebastian Manhart, Senior Policy Advisor at Carbon Future and co-host of the CDR Policy Scoop podcast, to explore the rapidly evolving world of Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR).
Sebastian shares his journey from social entrepreneurship to advising Angela Merkel’s chancellery, highlighting Carbon Future’s mission to build trust infrastructure for a scalable CDR market through robust monitoring, reporting, and verification (MRV). The discussion dives into record-breaking CDR market growth, Europe’s delayed climate targets, and groundbreaking national policies, offering a deep dive into the numbers, politics, and future of CDR.
We discuss:
• The CDR market’s historic Q2 2025, driven by Microsoft’s mega-deals and growing corporate demand
• Risks of market concentration and the need for compliance markets to ensure long-term stability
• Europe’s 2040 climate target delays and the significant role of international offsets under Article 6
• The UK’s 15-year Contracts for Difference (CFDs) and Germany’s €500M CDR investment by 2033
• Overcoming environmentalist skepticism and the mainstreaming of CDR as a critical climate solution
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, host Rene Velasquez sits down with Renat Heuberger and Steve Zwick to discuss their new book, The Carbon Paradox, and its unique approach to unraveling the complexities of carbon markets. Recorded ahead of New York Climate Week 2025, this conversation delves into the power of storytelling to make the nuanced challenges of climate finance accessible and engaging.Key Highlights:• The genesis of Carbon Paradoxes, sparked by Renat’s reflections in Bali amidst 2023’s carbon market controversies.• How the book’s fictional narrative brings to life 25 paradoxes, from ethical dilemmas to control tensions, making complex concepts resonate emotionally.• The collaborative writing process, where characters took on lives of their own, guiding the authors to an authentic and impactful story.• Upcoming book launches at the Brooklyn Book Festival (September 21, 2025) and a “Cocktails and Carbon” event in Manhattan (September 22, 2025), plus university talks at Columbia and Johns Hopkins.Topics Discussed:• The importance of storytelling in bridging the gap between technical carbon market debates and public understanding.• The control paradox: balancing governance and autonomy in carbon projects, and why it’s a universal challenge in climate finance.• Addressing the “Groundhog Day” cycle of recurring controversies by openly confronting paradoxes and fostering constructive dialogue.• Inspiring the next generation of climate leaders through relatable characters and a hopeful vision for scaling carbon markets.Join us for an insightful discussion on how Carbon Paradoxes aims to break the cycle of criticism, engage a broader audience, and spark a rebirth of the carbon market dream. Perfect for anyone interested in climate solutions, storytelling, or the future of sustainable finance! Amazon link for those interested in purchasing the book:https://www.amazon.com/Carbon-Paradox-Renat-Heuberger/dp/1637777507/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4PVT6T2THI50&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.vWXYbnAfKTU0r-yGOhe6DNRbEDz6OhBXKdCrfqGCYmdDISuk6Amc6lWm5_Hp6nzHEJKcZLJy1G3kAyAnOh8rqlHptwdDxh4DhBrA25EgzlZsoEJhkTm3Ve_AZSRZ7bXUCkdzG4vXBUN59G3WpUF2flG3VNELogt0suqsfFq4B4xcWQkfSQUCet9ebGVLbxvwtOJ2F9quE7NFmVteYHawxwttad5JrG13j4CdU7NqYwY.KXs0uvRJiTUqj3RoWy_W31QoBTdh3f-ccMMs2nT_b0c&dib_tag=se&keywords=carbon+paradoxes&qid=1758221490&sprefix=carbon+paradoxes%2Caps%2C319&sr=8-1 More information on the upcoming launches can be found below:https://carbonparadox.org/book/events/
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, host Edward Smith engages in a compelling discussion with Phoebe Scott from Climate Asset Management (CAM) about the evolving landscape of natural capital and carbon markets. Edward explores Phoebe’s expertise in climate finance and her leadership in fostering inclusivity in the industry.Key Highlights:• Phoebe’s journey from investment banking to CAM, driven by a passion for ESG and natural capital investing.• CAM’s dual strategies: a nature-based carbon strategy generating credits in the Global South and a natural capital strategy focusing on agriculture and forestry in the Global North.• The role of blended finance in de-risking projects to attract institutional capital and scale nature-based solutions.• The rapid growth of Women in Carbon, a global initiative co-founded by Phoebe, now spanning over 10 chapters worldwide.Topics Discussed:• The challenges of scaling natural capital as an institutional asset class, including market fragmentation and liquidity issues.• How carbon markets enhance the bankability of nature-based projects by diversifying revenue streams and mitigating climate risks.• The importance of voluntary market initiatives like ICBCM and VCMI in building trust and ensuring credit and claim integrity.• The impact of Women in Carbon in empowering women through networking, knowledge sharing, and global community-building.Join us to discover how CAM is seeking to drive institutional capital into natural solutions and how Phoebe’s leadership is shaping a more inclusive carbon industry.
In this episode of This Week in Carbon, host Edward Smith engages in a compelling discussion with Phoebe Scott from Climate Asset Management (CAM) about the evolving landscape of natural capital and carbon markets. Edward explores Phoebe’s expertise in climate finance and her leadership in fostering inclusivity in the industry.
Key Highlights:
• Phoebe’s journey from investment banking to CAM, driven by a passion for ESG and natural capital investing.
• CAM’s dual strategies: a nature-based carbon strategy generating credits in the Global South and a natural capital strategy focusing on agriculture and forestry in the Global North.
• The role of blended finance in de-risking projects to attract institutional capital and scale nature-based solutions.
• The rapid growth of Women in Carbon, a global initiative co-founded by Phoebe, now spanning over 10 chapters worldwide.
Topics Discussed:
• The challenges of scaling natural capital as an institutional asset class, including market fragmentation and liquidity issues.
• How carbon markets enhance the bankability of nature-based projects by diversifying revenue streams and mitigating climate risks.
• The importance of voluntary market initiatives like ICBCM and VCMI in building trust and ensuring credit and claim integrity.
• The impact of Women in Carbon in empowering women through networking, knowledge sharing, and global community-building.
Join us to discover how CAM is driving institutional capital into natural solutions and how Phoebe’s leadership is shaping a more inclusive carbon industry.
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