New Abnormal hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy do another round of Q&A to kick off this episode, which includes who they think will be the biggest winners and losers of the 2024 Republican presidential debates. Then later in the show, it’s all about climate change. First up David Lipsky, author of ‘The Parrot and the Igloo,’ gives a historical overview of when chemists first realized climate change was happening, and how people and pop culture felt about the topic back then, even after one scientist said in the ’50s that its effect would be “violent.” And Richard Lazarus, professor of environmental law at Harvard University, talks about the time Nancy Pelosi and the late John McCain actually agreed on climate change, and what messed everything up. 

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